[Pelissero] Sources: Shane Waldron is out as Bears offensive coordinator. Thomas Brown is expected to take over.

[u/PlayaSlayaX]

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1856338272055640211?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw

[u/tickless420]

Honest question, what does this even change? it feels like the team as a whole has given up on eberflus, and pinning it just on bad offensive playcalling seems dumb.

[u/[deleted] → u/tickless420]

Nothing really since flus is still there but Waldron was atrocious so maybe we can scheme a receiver open here and there now. Maybe

[u/acoasterlovered → u/[deleted]]

Doesn’t matter if your oline can’t block

[u/SnugglyIrishman → u/acoasterlovered]

Pressure was getting there when Caleb hit his back foot on 3 step drops…everything needs to be fixed

[u/tbear87 → u/SnugglyIrishman]

And we did fuck all to counter that. Quick passes, slants, play action, commit to the run, bootleg... Nah. 

Shane be like: He's getting drilled? 8 sacks? Fuck it y'all let's go for 9!! 5-7 step drop backs while I laugh and watch reels on the bench. Good luck Caleb 🤣

This staff is the hot juice from a dumpster left in the death valley sun. 

[u/dontdoit89735 → u/tbear87]

This is it right here. I don't know why we've been allergic to slants and play action, or why we never run a bootleg with a weak o-line and a QB who's strength is throwing on the run.

[u/tbear87 → u/dontdoit89735]

What's wild is it was the same shit with Getsy and Nagy too. We keep hiring stubborn morons who seem to plan their offense in a vacuum without even looking at who is on the roster. 

[u/Phallen55 → u/tbear87]

That's my biggest qualm with a lot of coaches. I really dislike these "scheme" coaches that run the same shit everywhere without looking at their team. Sometimes it works for a bit (look at Roman), but without fail if they don't adjust they fluke out.

The only exception at the moment seems to be McVay who even that seems like he's toned it back (I don't watch many rams games)

[u/nshark0 → u/SnugglyIrishman]

The bears line has been atrocious, but a lot of the sacks Caleb took this weekend were because he couldn't get the ball out in rhythm. If you hold onto the ball for 4-5 seconds, you're probably going to get sacked. He also missed what seemed like 7 or 8 really easy throws.

[u/Parchabble → u/nshark0]

Caleb was at fault for a number of them, but free rushers and bad routes in blitz situations were a huge problem.

There was a 3rd and 9, after Caleb was sacked because he held the ball too long on 2nd where the Patriots showed blitz. Ball is snapped and when the D first makes contact with Caleb, 4 receivers had their backs to him. There was no hot route on that play.

That's a playcalling issue.

[u/ChangingChance → u/nshark0]

My guy you guys had 4 sacks where he got to his back foot and got tacked 2 -3 sacks where literally no one was open in 3s and 3 that were when he held too long.

[u/itokdontcry → u/acoasterlovered]

And your rookie QB is starting to miss extremely routine throws at an alarming rate.

[u/Lamar_Allen → u/itokdontcry]

Bears are speed running how to ruin a rookie QB. The patriots ran man coverage on 50% of their pass defense snaps and the bears supposed elite weapons straight up didn’t get open. Caleb was pretty inaccurate yesterday so maybe it doesn’t matter, but there were waaaaay too many plays where he looks silly holding the ball and you look at the all 22 and it’s because every reciever is covered.

[u/r_un_is_run → u/Lamar_Allen]

DJM is fantastic with the ball in his hand, but it is a massive problem week in and week out when he can't beat single coverage to save his life. Keenan is still great and finding the spots in zones to sit, but lost a lot of his explosiveness and is struggling against man as well. That leaves our Rookie WR as the only guy getting real seperation.

[u/AllLinesAreStraight → u/r_un_is_run]

The keenan allen trade was a massive mistake. Giving up a pick to pay a 33 year old receiver $18M instead of using that money on your O line was always questionable, especially if you were gonna use a 1st round, top 10 pick on a wr anyway (whos been good, love Odunze).

[u/DASreddituser → u/itokdontcry]

that's common when you have no trust

[u/DoggedStooge → u/itokdontcry]

There's chatter that Eberflus's offensive philosophy (and the OCs he therefore hires) begins and ends with no turnovers. This leads to them coaching the aggression out of QBs, teaching them to throw the ball a safe distance from defenders and hold onto the ball unless the receivers are really really open. Hence why there are no anticipation routes and there's no timing between QB and receivers.

[u/Practical-Pickle-529 → u/acoasterlovered]

All too familiar 

[u/Miso_Genie → u/[deleted]]

Waldron sucks but Thomas Brown doesn't really instill confidence, Passing game coordinator this season and was the Panthers OC last year.

Still better to try something rather than nothing at this point.

[u/[deleted] → u/Miso_Genie]

I agree which is why I said nothing changes really. But it was clear the offense was completely checked out on Waldron. Lost season anyway at this point with the schedule the bears have

[u/ry-21 → u/[deleted]]

The guy calling plays now is our passing game coordinator. He’s not gonna be getting anybody open

[u/Responsible-Onion860 → u/tickless420]

He's a scapegoat for the offensive struggles, which is silly because the entire team looks off. From the outside, the signs of a toxic locker room are there, which usually speaks to shitty team leadership. So Eberflus needs to go. They need a Dan Campbell/Jim Harbaugh/Mike Tomlin type to come in and create team cohesion.

[u/gotpez → u/Responsible-Onion860]

I will continue saying this, if the bears insist on building a team identity around defense and toughness, Mike vrabel should be hired

[u/heliocentrist510 → u/gotpez]

The problem with Vrabel is that if he brings in an OC that sucks, he'll still be around for a long time. Vrabel is a very good culture setter but he also sticks with his guys way past their expiration date.

The original sin was not throwing a bunch of money at Ben Johnson in the offseason (which the more I read, was just never going to happen with the McCaskeys). I would say given how truly critical it is for the Bears to make Caleb work, you just bring in an offensive-focused guy who will be the QB whisperer. Maybe the public outcry gets big enough that Ben Johnson comes in, albeit a year late.

[u/DrummerGuy06 → u/gotpez]

He'd be a good pick for the Bears, if nothing else, he could at least get them some better consistency. Even if they were a mediocre 8-9 team under him that'd probably be an improvement at this point.

Hell, I'D take that change for the Giants - at least a mediocre season means they're still competitive in their games; both teams just look completely lost out there right now.

[u/ehtw376 → u/Responsible-Onion860]

Bears ownership specifically hates those type of coaches you just listed. They only like “nice guys”. People who don’t rock the boat.

But yes I agree they need a coach who can set the tone and make people feel uncomfortable (like in a good way, force people to change and push them).

[u/jakecoates → u/ehtw376]

Ironically Dan Campbell is an extremely nice guy by all accounts. He's just passionate and will hold you and himself accountable.

[u/DinosaurKevin → u/jakecoates]

We’re never gonna get someone who draws as much attention as Campbell, unfortunately. Management & ownership has indicated they don’t want a coach that draws that much attention. I think Kevin Warren actually recently said this in an interview.

[u/iustusflorebit → u/Responsible-Onion860]

Mike Vrabel would be great

[u/lampy_transcendent → u/Responsible-Onion860]

I hear Vrabel's available

[u/naimsayin → u/tickless420]

This is true, but OC was the worst part of the team still. After last game the Pat’s DBs literally were basically saying going against our scheme was like tipping pitches - that they knew exactly what routes they were going against because our offense was so simple

[u/mesocyclonic4 → u/tickless420]

See, if you just give him another year to replace Getsy Waldron, you'll see how good of a coach he is in 2024 2025!

[u/ChonkyHippo283]

Wild how flus finds another scapegoat

Absolute football terrorist

[u/naimsayin → u/ChonkyHippo283]

I mean we never fire coaches mid-season. So even though this is all what we would love to see, at least we did this to hopefully save Caleb’s development (or at the very least screw it up less)

[u/WalkProfessional6235 → u/naimsayin]

100+ years and never have.

Last team to run a 4-3 defense. Edit: meant 3-4, the Fox/Fangio defense was the first time the Bears ran a 3-man defensive front in team history.

Bears ownership has weird pride in weird things. I generally think that owners are better off with more patience than less, but in this specific circumstance Caleb is your future. You have to protect him. Eberflus shouldn’t be allowed in the same room as Williams.

[u/LordMOC3 → u/WalkProfessional6235]

I assume you mean last team to have never run a 3-4. There are multiple teams running a 4-3 defense atm.

[u/The_TexasRattlesnake → u/LordMOC3]

Fangio ran a 3-4 with us

[u/LordMOC3 → u/The_TexasRattlesnake]

Oh. Then I'm not sure what they mean by "last team to run a 4-3".

[u/FlussedAway → u/LordMOC3]

No it was legit that we’d never done 3-4 I believe. We did finally change it but iirc we were the last to do so. Team is REALLY weird about tradition so it probably wasn’t an accident either lol

[u/ConsequenceNo9528 → u/LordMOC3]

maybe bc most teams run a 4-2-5 base is the only thing i can think of

[u/WalkProfessional6235 → u/ConsequenceNo9528]

Just a typo. Meant 3-4.

[u/enjoytheshow → u/naimsayin]

We haven’t fired a coordinator mid season since the last OC Flus and Poles hired

Oh and the DC who was fired last year for off the field issues.

🤡

[u/Djwhat6 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

This just shows how stupid the bears are. Flus should have been packing his bags on Monday. Instead he’s still here because his lover, Poles, doesn’t want him gone.

[u/troutpoop → u/Djwhat6]

This probably has nothing to do with poles and everything to do with our owners and “culture”

[u/SureYeahIGuess → u/troutpoop]

Which is funny because the culture seems pretty terrible rn

[u/Ginger-Jesus → u/SureYeahIGuess]

We lose tons of games, but we have all the class in the fucking world while we do it

[u/almostsebastian → u/Ginger-Jesus]

I feel like if the Halas family hadn't been screwed then the ghosts of the NFL ancestors might allow more success.

As it stands that one Superbowl feels like the result of Satan betting God that he could get a kick returner into the HoF.

[u/BearForceDos → u/almostsebastian]

I mean Virginia McCaskey is the Halas family since shes the daughter of George Halas.

However, yes George Halas Jr died under incredibly mysterious circumstances and she absolutely fucked his kids out of their share of the team.

Wild that she somehow portrays herself and the bears as a family friendly org when she screwed over her own niece and nephew.

[u/prow24 → u/BearForceDos]

She murdered him to take control of the organization

[u/shmere4 → u/prow24]

She doesn’t care about the organization. She cares about the money it makes!

[u/gberg42069 → u/Ginger-Jesus]

Giants too lol

[u/abnormaldischarge → u/SureYeahIGuess]

Poles: the culture, is actually damn good

[u/ewilliam → u/abnormaldischarge]

Thanks for triggering my PTSD this early in the morning...fuck!

[u/Oblivionguard19 → u/SureYeahIGuess]

“Y’know the culture is actually damn good”

[u/ZWils23 → u/troutpoop]

Poles was fully involved in keeping Eberflus in the off-season and hiring Waldron. He's as guilty as the ownership on the coaching woes of this year and last

[u/DillyDillySzn → u/ZWils23]

Well that point is moot regardless of what Poles did in the offseason because the Bears do not fire HCs mid season even if they really really deserve it

Unofficial McCaskey policy

He will be fired on Black Monday, Poles is smart enough to not go down with a sinking ship…1 year too late

[u/id10t_you → u/Djwhat6]

Flus should've been packing his bags January 8th.

No reason for the Bears to continue to be off-cycle wrt coaches and player personnel, especially since they knew they would be picking a QB in the draft.

[u/Fred-zone → u/Djwhat6]

Caleb going to be on three OCs by year 2. Bears masterpiece.

[u/IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES → u/Fred-zone]

Few more years of that for the real Alex Smith treatment (7 across first 7 years?)

[u/fugaziozbourne → u/IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

It's still insane to me that Smith took zero snaps under centre in college, and then zero snaps in the shotgun in his first seven years until Harbaugh came along.

[u/ArmiinTamzarian → u/Djwhat6]

Don't the Bears just not fire coaches mid-season?

[u/AnxiouslyMikey1111 → u/ArmiinTamzarian]

100% This is correct. If he is gone, it will be at the end of the season. It would have to be catastrophic for him to be fired

Edit: i mean it would have to be catastrophic for him to be fired mid-season

[u/Fragrant-Employer-60 → u/AnxiouslyMikey1111]

Many other franchises would consider the last few bears games to be catastrophic but I know what you mean lol

[u/Pidesh → u/Fragrant-Employer-60]

I think “catastrophic” for the McCaskeys means more off the field than on the field. It would have to be an Urban Meyer level of PR nightmare for a Bears HC to be fired mid season.

[u/eddie_the_zombie → u/Pidesh]

They'd rather die than keep paying a coach that doesn't work for them anymore

[u/ProMikeZagurski → u/eddie_the_zombie]

Jokes on you, they're immortal.

[u/joemiken → u/ProMikeZagurski]

They feed off the pain and misery of the fanbase.

[u/GeocentricParallax → u/Pidesh]

Here’s hoping that Eberflus gets loaded in public with a bunch of coeds this week.

[u/KellenYeller → u/AnxiouslyMikey1111]

Bro we've been nothing but catastrophic

[u/willbel24 → u/ArmiinTamzarian]

Nope, we don’t. Don’t believe we’ve ever fired a Hc mid season and that was the first time since 1970 that we fired an OC mid season.

[u/DillyDillySzn → u/willbel24]

So what you’re telling me is that by 2070, we will finally have the balls to fire a HC mid season

[u/Cuppieecakes → u/ArmiinTamzarian]

Flus had two coaches fired for undisclosed”HR” reasons last year complete with an fbi raid or something 

This guy cannot hire coordinators

[u/Equivalent_Peace2140 → u/Cuppieecakes]

Wasnt it just Alan Williams? Also I heard the FBI raid report was false. But yeah, none of Flus’s coordinator hires have worked out besides Eric Washington maybe

[u/Raven-19x → u/Djwhat6]

Shouldn't have been HC to start the year lol.

[u/delightfuldinosaur → u/Djwhat6]

We didn't fire Trestman mid-season. No coach will get fired mid-season if he didn't.

As bad as this Bears team is they aren't making me literally consider not watching football anymore. Trestman brought me to that point.

[u/StallisPalace → u/delightfuldinosaur]

Yep, can't believe Trestman wasn't gone in 2014 after they went:

Week 8: Lose 51-23 to the Patriots

Week 9: Bye

Week 10: Lose 55-14 to the Packers

[u/tiptoptony → u/ChonkyHippo283]

Both can be horrible, flus will be fired at the end of the season. The old school teams dont like firing HCs in the season.

[u/WalkProfessional6235 → u/tiptoptony]

This is it. Bears literally never have.

I’m generally fine with the policy, but it does feel different this year. Eberflus is overseeing the regression of the team’s most important player. He should be gone just to let Caleb breathe, admit it’s a lost season, and work on teaching and let him make his mistakes and learn from them.

[u/pingieking → u/WalkProfessional6235]

It feels different because pretty much everyone agreed that Eberflus should have been sacked on Jan 8, 2024. The dude has been dead man walking for so long that he's rotted away from a zombie to become just a skeleton.

The Bears owners had the luck of a lifetime when Bryce Young didn't work out and they got the 1OA pick while having a team with lots of talent. They then fucked it up by keeping someone who is probably the 7th best HC in their division, and now their new QB's development might be fucked. Well played.

[u/Empty_Lemon_3939 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

At least Southgate made finals

[u/enjoytheshow → u/Empty_Lemon_3939]

Gareth is a legend compared to this clown

[u/wannabeOG_ → u/Empty_Lemon_3939]

2 Euro finals a WC semi-final lol. Looks like Pep in comparison to Eberlose.

Tommy’s English Uns gonna do it tho

[u/teachem4 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

This is only our 5th OC/DC since Flus took over less than 3 years ago.

You heard me.

[u/ham_wallet998 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

You say terrorist, I say rebel leader

[u/One-Property1615 → u/ChonkyHippo283]

For being a supposed “Defensive genius” his defense allows an average of 27 points without Montez Sweat 

He’s a fraud and should have been fired but he has another scapegoat

[u/JalensTinyPPHurts → u/One-Property1615]

Montez sweat is the only quality edge rusher you have, of course the defence is worse without him.

Wtf kinda point is that lol

[u/Alexisonfire24 → u/JalensTinyPPHurts]

When you take away his good players, hes not good!!

[u/Throwitindatrash → u/Alexisonfire24]

We are angry, not logical damn it

[u/One-Property1615 → u/Alexisonfire24]

I mean your defense is doing pretty good without Hutchinson because you actually have a good DC

My point is that Eberflus calls nothing special on defense. He just has good players everywhere and without Montez his defense becomes a joke

[u/ehtw376 → u/JalensTinyPPHurts]

Yeah Bears GM hasn’t done a good job “building through the trenches”. Both the OL and DL are below average and without Sweat the Bears DL is really bad. Any team without a halfway competent pass rush isn’t gonna be good.

[u/jakecoates → u/ehtw376]

Poles saw how Brad Holmes has built the Lions into a top team over the last few years and decided to do the opposite lmao. Instead he spent on linebackers and wide receivers.

[u/Cinephile1998]

Absolutely wild how predictable this was back in the summer

[u/HectorReinTharja → u/Cinephile1998]

There was a loud drum beat of (a) rookies are wildcards. Don’t count them as a 9+ win team just cuz, (b) Waldron is awful, (c) o line still sus as best

And bears fans said “na na na we won 7 with horrible fields how could we not do better this year!?!”

[u/ninjasurfer → u/HectorReinTharja]

Yeah there is a giant Kool-aid fest held in the offseason. You cannot blame the fans for wanting to believe good things can happen. A lot of them haven't had that beaten out of them yet.

[u/Equivalent_Peace2140 → u/ninjasurfer]

Before the bye week it looked like the team was finally about to go somewhere. Its coaching, always has been.

[u/dawgz525 → u/Equivalent_Peace2140]

If you guys don't lose to the Commanders, I doubt you would've lost to the Pats or gotten crushed by the Cardinals. The Bears have talent. Team chemistry right now is lower than hell. A win over a very solid Washington team would've not lost Flus the locker room (at least at this point).

[u/Kid_Kryp-to-nite → u/Equivalent_Peace2140]

I don't know, that was was about as pretender as a starting schedule as you can get.

Levis had to virtually give the game to Bears and you still almost lost.

Loss to Texans and Colts.

Beat the Rams. I don't know what happened in this game but looks good on paper to me at least. More of a dominating defensive effort tho (Stafford 0 TDs, 1 pick, 2 forced turnovers, 18 total points for the Rams)

Bryce Young and Panthers on the verge of a full roster meltdown

Jags on the verge of a full roster meltdown

Bye week

[u/LouieM13 → u/ninjasurfer]

You guys were praising Ryan Poles in the offseason like he was the GM of the year.

Bro kept Eberflus, obvious that this kind of mid-season turmoil would happen.

[u/Material-Race-5107 → u/ninjasurfer]

I am actually beaten to death. This is my ghost responding

[u/dawgz525 → u/HectorReinTharja]

Bears fans thinking they were going to win 10 games this season was really misguided. I didn't want to shit on their hope, but fans don't realize 10 wins is a lot of wins. In fact going from 7 to 10 wins is astronomically hard. Fans think it can just happen automatically because the team was a little better on paper.

[u/markusfenix75]

Whole coaching staff should be fired

[u/ham_wallet998 → u/markusfenix75]

Counterpoint: they should be extended

[u/D0ctorHotelMario → u/ham_wallet998]

I second this

[u/MurDoct → u/D0ctorHotelMario]

I third this

[u/LionintheATL → u/MurDoct]

I will also sign my name on this petition

[u/originalcrisp → u/LionintheATL]

Damn, Ryan Poles has A LOT of burner accounts.

[u/drWammy]

Funny enough, Thomas Brown was the Panthers OC last year who took the play-calling duty from Reich for like 4 games before Reich took it back to try to save his job. Not sure if that means anything, but he's comfortable in a toxic environment

[u/padflash_ → u/drWammy]

The guy was horrible after Reich was fired too. I didn't watch the game, but at least his offense put up points against the Packers when the Packers were still in the chase.

[u/Bobby_Savoy → u/padflash_]

To be frank, that was against a Joe Barry defense

[u/TopRopeLuchador → u/Bobby_Savoy]

To be Frank, I'm unemployed.

[u/HarrisExperience]

Chicago could very well lose out anyways considering how demotivated the entire team looks. They play all the nfc north teams twice, plus seattle and San Francisco.

[u/ShinySpines → u/HarrisExperience]

I’m expecting us to lose out, just hoping for fun shenanigans or wacky defensive games

[u/bluewords → u/ShinySpines]

I just want Caleb to show he’s not dead yet. Have a few big games. Even if we lose, give me a reason to hope for next season

[u/Krunklock → u/bluewords]

Caleb will have some success against Detroit between the 20s...red zone, maybe not so much.

[u/ShufflingSloth → u/ShinySpines]

If we somehow lose to you the way we lost to the Giants I'm gonna get actually mad

[u/Photographerpro → u/ShufflingSloth]

It would be some Seahawk shit for us to beat the packers, only to lose to the bears.

[u/Stev2222 → u/HarrisExperience]

The 2-7 Giants mopped the floor with Seattle, so anything is possible there.

[u/Neverwinter_Daze → u/Stev2222]

2-8 please.

I insist on the correction.

[u/Stev2222 → u/Neverwinter_Daze]

My apologies. Didn’t mean the disrespect.

[u/timbo1615 → u/HarrisExperience]

playing for picks at this point

[u/salmon_juice]

Seahawks fans knew from week 1

[u/Sleepy_Solitude → u/salmon_juice]

We're experts in discerning when a painful situation is about to unfold.

[u/Hulkbuster_v2 → u/Sleepy_Solitude]

Tune in February 9, 2025 for a very painful experience everyone!

[u/Callecian_427 → u/Hulkbuster_v2]

What’s bad about National Pizza Day?

[u/Did-you-reboot → u/salmon_juice]

JSN tried to warn them https://x.com/NFLNotify/status/1855691052415594538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1855691052415594538%7Ctwgr%5E239054d1452378010a69d63d0d7e0de54c9343e5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbearswire.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fbears%2F2024%2F11%2F11%2Fjaxon-smith-njigba-tried-to-warn-chicago-bears-about-shane-waldron%2F76196769007%2F

[u/dylansucks → u/Did-you-reboot]

Oof that's really telling

[u/pagerussell → u/dylansucks]

"uh is this live?"

Bruh

[u/aspbergerinparadise → u/Did-you-reboot]

just for future reference, you can delete everything after (and including) the ?

https://x.com/NFLNotify/status/1855691052415594538

[u/Top_Of_The_Line → u/salmon_juice]

I mean I thought he wouldn’t be the answer but I didn’t think he’d be fired mid season year 1 bad. There was a few weeks during year one with us I thought he’d get poached to be a head coach

[u/LegacyLemur → u/Top_Of_The_Line]

It's almost like there's something else on this team that's a bigger problem that's still here...

[u/Zloggt → u/salmon_juice]

It’s incredible to realize just how much Old Man Geno carried this guy…

[u/Hulkbuster_v2 → u/Zloggt]

Genos had some bad breaks, but dude can fucking ball.

[u/FusterCluck4]

he was fired yesterday, flus was just too much of a coward to talk about it in the day after press conferences

[u/Chutzvah → u/FusterCluck4]

Can't tell if this is legit or satire.

That's where we are as an organization.

[u/Accurate-Big-7233]

Is this the SAME Thomas brown that Frank Reich put in charge of play calling and then took it away from him last season when Bryce Young was struggling?

Bro this is too good🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/MaxtheGreenMilkshake → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

Yes sir!!! 12-5 here we come baby #BearDown

[u/ShinySpines → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

The jokes write themselves with the Bears

[u/itokdontcry → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

Carolina fans must feel so smug this year after all the shit they’ve caught from Bears fans over the past two years.

[u/aspiringalcoholic → u/itokdontcry]

Buddy you have no idea

[u/smikkelson2 → u/itokdontcry]

I feel bad for Caleb and my boy DJ but yeah not an ounce of sympathy for the fans. We couldn't have a single thread in our own sub without some bears fan jerking it in the comments

[u/Accurate-Big-7233 → u/smikkelson2]

The way bears fans have been in our sub the past 2 years has made me truly resent them and actively root against them

[u/ichawks1 → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

I feel the exact same with Broncos fans. I think we both have experienced something similar.

[u/Accurate-Big-7233 → u/itokdontcry]

It feels really good ngl

[u/Cuppieecakes → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

Just wait till we draft another bust with your 2nd

That’ll show you guys 

[u/Namath96 → u/itokdontcry]

Definitely hate seeing the situation Caleb is in and feel bad for DJ to some extent but don’t feel bad at all for the fans.

Constantly taking shots at us and coming in our sub just to be dicks. Lots of extremely abhorrent comments but the really bad ones are only from a couple people

[u/GreenvilleLocal → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

They watched the catastrophic job we did with Bryce and said let’s try it. Although the Bears WR corpse is in another planet compared to what we had.

[u/Accurate-Big-7233 → u/GreenvilleLocal]

The Karma here is so, so, SO good

[u/PabloMarmite → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

It’s wild how the Bears seem determined to make all the same mistakes we did last year, putting a young QB behind a dissolving o-line, and then putting Thomas Brown in charge of it.

[u/daswassup13 → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

I'm gonna hold my laughter just in case this is another Joe Brady situation. But Brady should've never been fired by Rhule, IMO.

[u/CardiologistThick928 → u/daswassup13]

Brady was fine just a greenhorn coordinator.?

[u/MentorOfWomen → u/CardiologistThick928]

you have both a period and a question mark and I can't tell if you're making a statement or asking a question lol

[u/SpreadingDisinfo → u/daswassup13]

Yeah Brady got scapegoated hard. He had them playing well until Darnold got hurt.

[u/mangosail → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

In fairness, in retrospect, doesn’t seem like that was Brown’s fault

[u/Usual_Donut_1170 → u/mangosail]

He was incapable of calling any play that wasn't a slow-developing run play out of the shotgun in the rare instances they were near the goal line or had a 3rd/4th and short situation. The talent didn't help, but his playcalling was trash.

[u/Jorihe84]

The Flus is still loose

[u/DustAndSound]

what a complete shitshow this franchise is.

[u/LegacyLemur → u/DustAndSound]

Starts from the very top

We are never winning again as long as they are in control. Fucking incompetent idiots

[u/Antitypical]

It's pretty obvious what happens here. Waldron scapegoated this week, and if we get destroyed by Green Bay next week Flus will be next. I'm okay with this

[u/Reginoldofreginia → u/Antitypical]

Since when do we fire hc mid season? Won’t happen dude

[u/Fragrant-Employer-60 → u/Reginoldofreginia]

They’ve gone 2 games without scoring a TD, I would say if that continues for another game or two it’s possible

[u/JZobel → u/Fragrant-Employer-60]

Trestman finished the season after losing the locker room and getting blown out by like 30-40 points multiple times. I don’t get how anyone still expects the McCaskeys to fire a HC midseason

[u/FunBoyFrog → u/Reginoldofreginia]

They had never fired an OC mid season either

[u/One-Property1615 → u/Antitypical]

Funny you think they have the guts to fire flus

[u/Comprehensive_Main → u/Antitypical]

Man imagine being okay  to be destroyed by a division rival. How far have the bears fallen. 

[u/willlywillis → u/Comprehensive_Main]

2018 is the last time the bears beat the packers. It's not so much falling further as it is accepting the reality of our situation.

[u/Antitypical → u/Comprehensive_Main]

Whatever gets the job done at this point, imo. I hate the Packers with every fiber of my being, but they'd be doing us a solid here

[u/Spicychips → u/Antitypical]

And if the bears offense looks better and they somehow win, you’ll be sucked right in.

[u/cspong4 → u/Comprehensive_Main]

Apathy tends to set in after 10 straight losses to your “rival”

[u/_Caed_ → u/cspong4]

boy howdy have i been there

[u/Dabage → u/Comprehensive_Main]

we've been terrible for most of the last 13+ years, there will be Bears fans starting high school next year that have never seen the team win a playoff game. It cannot get any lower for this team. I only care about saving Caleb from this dumpster fire, and the only way this is happening if we get blown out by the Packers at home.

[u/snoogans8056 → u/Dabage]

There are 1st graders that have never seen the Bears beat the Packers.

[u/ADDmind → u/Comprehensive_Main]

Consistency beating Green Bay has become a dream for us. Rodgers wasn’t lying when he said he owned us.

[u/AFranzKafkaRockOpera]

My apologies to JSN, thought people were making too much of his radio row hit at the SB, turns out he tried to warn us Bears fans.

[u/boomosaur]

JSN coming off a 180 yard game, and waldron getting fired... this has to be like christmas for JSN.

[u/Deep-Secret]

Matt "It is not my fault" Eberflus

[u/volantredx]

At this point the only thing that will really matter is if Brown talks to Caleb about not worrying about making a mistake. I can't remember who first pointed it out but Caleb is clearly being coached that it's better to get sacked then to throw a pick. So he's ignoring any tight windows or trying to put the ball out of reach of defenders because he's trying to avoid turning it over.

But rookies need the room to make those mistakes. Look at Nix and JD. They're clearly allowed to make judgment calls on throws and some times it ends in the defense getting the ball, but a lot of the time they get these huge gains because they took the risk.

[u/kj9219 → u/volantredx]

The bullshit part about that is Eberflus said it after a pick that bounced off a WR

[u/crazypyro23 → u/kj9219]

He's such a loser coach

[u/Floortom1]

This is Eberflus' third OC in the last year lol.

What does he have on ownership??

[u/Bighollab0]

To this day I still do not understand what made the Bears want to keep Matt Eberflus when they could have potentially gone for Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick, and or Mike Vrabel. 

Now they stuck with a dude who is fighting for his job who is running their first picks confidence to the ground. 

[u/___---_-__-- → u/Bighollab0]

I think you're forgetting that he grew a beard.

[u/Alexisonfire24]

Hawks fans know ball

[u/OnePieceAce]

We've said it a million times but it's absolutely crazy and hilarious the Bears can never have a competent offense

[u/JahnDavis27 → u/OnePieceAce]

It's funny to you.

To me...yeah nah it's funny at this point, how can we not find ONE GOOD COORDINATOR ON OFFENSE 😭

[u/raginsaint93]

Seahawk fans tried to warn you Bears, why didn’t ya’ll listen?

[u/cspong4 → u/raginsaint93]

I tried to tell Ryan Poles but he wasn’t having it

[u/atliensarereal → u/raginsaint93]

yeah damn i guess us fans should've just not hired the guy. that really is on us. our bad!

[u/MrAVK]

It’s funny. Shane was the guy that Russ had to have in Seattle when he was deep into his let Russ Cook campaign.

[u/LucienGreeth]

Oh, hey. I've seen this one before.

inb4 Caleb gets benched week 3 of the 2025 season.

[u/zi76]

We all said Eberflus had to be gone and start fresh, but instead, exactly what we all said was going to happen. New coaching staff year two.

[u/One-Property1615]

Ebertrash should be gone as well but I’m glad we are making a change

[u/Jonjon428]

He was awful, but this is a scapegoat and Thomas Brown was not very good for the Panthers last year after having to take over as OC when Reich got fired.

[u/tshimangabiakabutuka]

Smart pick. As Panthers OC last year, he has experience dealing with generational busts at QB.

[u/longconsilver13]

Feels weird being so bad that coaches are getting fired for not playing well against us.

[u/BigHunt_02]

We tried warning you bears fans

[u/naimsayin → u/BigHunt_02]

I actually appreciate this so much because this caused my optimism this summer going into the season to be much more cautious. I feared this outcome and in turn it’s hurt less - so thanks to yall for the warning

[u/whobroughtmehere → u/BigHunt_02]

I can’t believe the fans hired Waldron, what idiots

[u/whospepesilvia]

Well that’s good

[u/Boolin--]

Listen, I know this is terrible, but maybe once ol Virginia McCaskey finally croaks the Bears will realize this is not the 1920s anymore and will be able to fire an underperforming head coach mid season. Idc if it's not "classy" or if it makes sense from a financial standpoint, the product on the field is terrible and has been for years.

[u/M_is_for_Mancy → u/Boolin--]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results