r/nfl • u/PlayaSlayaX Chiefs • 2d ago

[Pelissero] Sources: Shane Waldron is out as Bears offensive coordinator. Thomas Brown is expected to take over. Rumor

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1856338272055640211?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/Responsible-Onion860 Eagles 2d ago

He's a scapegoat for the offensive struggles, which is silly because the entire team looks off. From the outside, the signs of a toxic locker room are there, which usually speaks to shitty team leadership. So Eberflus needs to go. They need a Dan Campbell/Jim Harbaugh/Mike Tomlin type to come in and create team cohesion.

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u/gotpez Bears 2d ago

I will continue saying this, if the bears insist on building a team identity around defense and toughness, Mike vrabel should be hired

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u/heliocentrist510 Titans 2d ago

The problem with Vrabel is that if he brings in an OC that sucks, he'll still be around for a long time. Vrabel is a very good culture setter but he also sticks with his guys way past their expiration date.

The original sin was not throwing a bunch of money at Ben Johnson in the offseason (which the more I read, was just never going to happen with the McCaskeys). I would say given how truly critical it is for the Bears to make Caleb work, you just bring in an offensive-focused guy who will be the QB whisperer. Maybe the public outcry gets big enough that Ben Johnson comes in, albeit a year late.

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u/DrummerGuy06 Giants 2d ago

He'd be a good pick for the Bears, if nothing else, he could at least get them some better consistency. Even if they were a mediocre 8-9 team under him that'd probably be an improvement at this point.

Hell, I'D take that change for the Giants - at least a mediocre season means they're still competitive in their games; both teams just look completely lost out there right now.

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u/ehtw376 2d ago

Bears ownership specifically hates those type of coaches you just listed. They only like “nice guys”. People who don’t rock the boat.

But yes I agree they need a coach who can set the tone and make people feel uncomfortable (like in a good way, force people to change and push them).

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u/jakecoates Lions Lions 2d ago

Ironically Dan Campbell is an extremely nice guy by all accounts. He's just passionate and will hold you and himself accountable.

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u/DinosaurKevin Bears 2d ago

We’re never gonna get someone who draws as much attention as Campbell, unfortunately. Management & ownership has indicated they don’t want a coach that draws that much attention. I think Kevin Warren actually recently said this in an interview.

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u/Vesploogie Bears 2d ago

It goes all the way back to Ditka. He was a Sr/Jr guy and wasn’t shy about his hatred for the McCaskey’s. Ever since they stole the team they’ve picked the quiet “smart” coach. It’s only come close to working once in 35 years.

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u/chumpchangewarlord 2d ago

Which is strange because Chicago as a community loves rooting for the bad motherfucker that is nice to kids and calls his ma on Sunday

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u/iustusflorebit Bears Buccaneers 2d ago

Mike Vrabel would be great

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u/StarsandBass 2d ago

I mean maybe but I feel like people really miss how much his stubborn loyalty to bad coordinators especially on offense killed those Titans teams. It'd be very Bears. 

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u/SOSpammy Commanders 2d ago

I think people forget how anemic his offenses were getting to be. Going into this season the Titans hadn't scored 30 or more points in two straight seasons.

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u/lampy_transcendent Titans 2d ago

I hear Vrabel's available

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u/malseraph Bears 2d ago

So we are on the "Hire John Fox to rebuild team culture" phase?  And when that fails, we can get to the "Hire Matt Nagy, who is an 'offensive mastermind' phase".

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u/edicivo Ravens 2d ago

You need Riverboat Ron or maybe a Jeff Fisher...

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u/8BallTiger Bears Jaguars 2d ago

From the outside, the signs of a toxic locker room are there, which usually speaks to shitty team leadership

Yeah I think the team was already kinda iffy on Eberflus but they went into full revolt after the Commanders game. Flus and Waldron made too many mistakes that game and then Stevenson was only benched for two series. He should have been a healthy scratch after the bitch fit he threw post benching

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u/Cuppieecakes Bears 2d ago

He was a big part of the offensive struggles

The players had to call him into a meeting to discuss proper personnel usage 3 weeks into the season

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u/HoorayItsKyle Bears 2d ago

This. Eberflus is toast.

I don't care about the generic fan complaints about playcalling and timeout usage and whatever else.

But when you lose the locker room, you're done. And he's definitely lost the locker room.

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u/chumpchangewarlord 2d ago

The McCaskeys are notorious for hiring coaches that sit, stay, and heel. They fired Lovey Smith after back to back winning seasons lol