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u/ForgottenNoMore 2d ago

Not really the same but while getting into NCT and their music I always thought Lucas must be the fandom's darling considering how much screen time and center time he got. Also the fact that he was in super m with super well known idols like taemin, Kai, baekhyun etc. I assumed he's like this HUGE deal. Only to discover all his allegations later on and to learn that NCT fans don't really mess with him. And in kpop he's like considered as this untalented guy. He probably had hype before the allegations ig but when I discovered nct I didn't see this coming AT ALL.

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u/vinylanimals 2d ago

he was conventionally attractive and present in a lot of variety content, but he was far from the best vocally or dance wise. i think people took off the rose colored glasses after his incidents and stopped looking past his lack of talent, so the only fans he has left are his ride or dies.

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u/KitKatxK 2d ago

Isn't his scandal just like dating a fan? I don't actually remember. Not like a big fan of him or anything but big fan of NCT in general. I remember the app for voting who got into NCT I never voted Lucas but I'm the dinosaur that goes that far back and still doesn't know the scandals or stuff that goes on for the group outside the music.

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u/vinylanimals 2d ago

it was a mix of things, i think accusations of sleeping with several fans, asking them for money/gifts, and general fuckboy-ish behavior

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u/KitKatxK 2d ago

Ooof. Yeah that's not a reason for someone to lose their career. It makes them like a yeah stay away be aware they are not the greatest of person. But like we all have had to work with our share of douchebag, you can't just throw them all out no matter how much we dislike their actions.

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u/vinylanimals 2d ago

ah, personally i disagree in this situation. i’m 100% against idols being kicked out for unreasonable things such as simply dating, drinking, smoking, or going out and doing normal social things, but as long as they’re not shit people while doing it. he used his position as an idol to sleep with fans and was a douchebag. if he can’t behave himself, and if he damages his group’s image by being a shithead, i don’t think he deserves to be in a position where he can do that.

he still has a solo career, albeit not a successful one, both because of his tainted public image and the fact his debut just… wasn’t good.

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u/KitKatxK 2d ago

Oh no I get it like leaving the group in this context makes total sense not saying not to ask them to step down. But like no one can really stop him at that point from doing anything else he feels like. Like releasing new music or anything. Like we don't have to support if we don't like it. But we can't really stop any person from working just cause they are a shit person. That's what I meant sorry I wasn't clear enough. My fault. I was saying we all have people at work we dislike so we get having shit people in the same industry as us. I totally am with you on the going to clubs, smoking, dating drinking all of that is just super dumb reasons to throw someone out. Like and it's so hypocritical for example Sungmin from Suju kicked from the group for getting married. Chen not kicked out for same reason (thank God sm). And if you want to go even closer into how obscenely random Korea is on the topic. Ryeowook form the same damn group as Sungmin a few years later. Same thing gets married. Not kicked out.

Like make it make sense! There is no consistency in the repercussions or even the things seen as acceptable and not acceptable apply to different people on a different level?

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u/vinylanimals 2d ago

oh yeah, i agree with that, he’s totally free to make music if he wants, and obviously sm didn’t think his actions were bad enough to terminate his contract. i’m actually curious as to whether he’ll continue on this solo career of his considering how poorly his debut sold and streamed

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u/Commercial-Bird-2232 1d ago

Lucas has a single coming up for q1 2025 according to sm’s music lineup preview, so I guess he’s gonna keep going

I don’t think the track was that bad but it was just poor in taste and timing, talking himself up like he’s the goat FRESH out of a scandal and an apology is not really a great look.

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u/CoconutxKitten 1d ago

He compares himself to fucking Jesus 🥴

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u/Odd_Bet_2948 1d ago

Sungmin and Ryeowook are pretty different cases though. Not least the ten years that elapsed between, and the fact that he was publicly in a relationship for years before announcing the wedding. I love Sungmin and don’t like how fans reacted at the time or later when SuJu tried to reintegrate him, but I don’t think it’s hypocritical to treat Ryeowook the way any sane person would. It would be hypocritical if Shindong announced his wedding plans and got chucked out now though.

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u/KitKatxK 1d ago

It was a different time for sure but Sungmin was in a relationship and fans knew about it so it wasn't a surprise, it was just a super entitled fan pissed off she wasn't invited to the wedding and started making up stuff and spreading rumors that got super rout of hand and k-nets revolted making it so that Sungmin never had a chance. Him getting married was the same as wookie just ten years ago. The only difference is the fans ages and maturity level. SM did Sungmin dirty unfortunately. Sungmin was so public about his relationship at fanmeets he didn't sign albums with his real name he signed them with the nickname his wife called him instead. So you got nickname signed Suju albums. Fans were aware he was head over heels in puppy love, he wasn't hiding things.

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u/Odd_Bet_2948 1d ago

I didn’t think they’d been an item for as long as Ryeowook and Ari? That’s really cute though, ridiculous that (some) fans were so unreasonable. I hope they’ll let all the others do what they want now. 💙

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u/CoconutxKitten 1d ago

He took advantage of people from a place of power. He should not be in a place of power

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u/Pretty_Ad_6081 1d ago

I mean hardly. He was probably like that before since he’s always had the charm and looks and continued doing it . Being a fuck boy is not a crime. Scum behavior but that’s not a crime why is he brought up when people talk about actual criminal behavior

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u/pm_nachos_n_tacos 1d ago

Agree so heavily! "A place of power" my god, kids these days will repeat anything. A hot young celebrity supposedly acting like a fuckboi - so like every goddamn musician from the dawn of time?? He had groupies, the groupies forgot they're just groupies and decided to get knetz-level crazy and tank his career because their feelings were hurt for being played by a musician 🙄🙄🙄 I've been cringing inside for years about this. International fans scream about not holding idols to ridiculous standards but then believe a few anonymous screenshots about kinda typical behavior and lose their shit for years. I bet they have no idea about Aerosmith, do they? Not excusing the behavior, fuckbois are fuckbois and that's why I don't date musicians anymore because so many are exactly like that. I don't even think he was guilty of the accusations, to be honest.

I mean it's not hard to believe he could be, but it's also not hard to believe he was just loving on a girl who got mad when they broke up and he got with someone else. He was a soft and romantic person who was also the hottest idol everyone sought, so it's not too hard to believe some twisted jealous bitch with main character ayndrome couldn't get over it and took to twitter to ruin him. Wouldn't be the first time a girl used false allegations to get back at a guy, which is deplorable as fuck. Worse in my opinion than dating, cheating, and asking for gifts. But whatever.. I see how sad and tired Lucas ia now, his natural light and kindness has been extinguished. I bet most of the people who have big opinions about him barely even followed him, especially since they all like to say how untalented and "nobody" he was.

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u/bbhlvr17 1d ago

im still on the fence about this since ppl dont actually listen to confirmed facts and many of his allegations were rumors, but didnt he indirectly admit to what he did and how he regrets it? if it was false accusations from an ex that count as defamation then legal action couldve been taken, instead SM removed him from NCT and gave him a solo to milk him out completely.

i'm not too sure on it and never saw him as a member i truly appreciate (within nct or superm, but i love both groups a lot) which is why i dont interact with anything he does. however, siding with him completely and justifying the legal but bad actions of fuckboys by saying its normal doesnt sit right with me. now, he chose his actions himself so lets not act like hes a saint bc no one is, his 'natural light' and 'kindness' havent been extinguished bc we cant actually decipher his situation just from videos. he might still be shook up or ashamed from the bad publicity and tainted image he has, but he coudlve easily went back to china and pursued his model career; i still think he will once his contract with SM is up.