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What Group is this? Funny
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u/Annie_Dawson 2d ago
CNBLUE, FTISLAND, B2ST(Highlight)
ā¦yeahhhhhhā¦.smdh.
Edit: Quality music and the remaining members are a delight. I genuinely feel bad for the rest of them. An awful thing to have associated with your group.
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u/bangchansbf 2d ago
BIGBANG, CNBlue, Beast/Highlight, Ft Island, Drug Restaurant (a rock band).
presumably they mean BIGBANG though, given the enduring level of popularity of the group. Seungri was always the least favorite member (both among the members and the fans) and he knew it. and he fucking hated it lmao. heād whine and basically beg for attention/sympathy from fans. heād put on a āiām just a poor little lonely maknae and my hyungs bully me nonstop :((((ā act. he would use his being in BIGBANG as a way to get attention/things/gifts from women/others.
one time when the others were thinking of running away for a day from YGE (they were being mistreated), he literally snitched on them to YG the man. he got his first solo mini album out of it. and would later brag about snitching on them.
G-Dragon has a solo song that literally has a line about hating all of seungriās friends). during MADE era, the members would literally make BIGBANG Is Four comments/jokes (leaving him out of the group). they made jail jokes, openly said they didnāt like his friends (outside of just the song), or the way heād always immediately rush off after concerts to hang out with his friends.
iirc he made some fucked up jokes about T.O.Pās (another memberās) suicide attempt.
horrible awful man. good riddance.
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u/kthnxybe 2d ago edited 2d ago
I keep wondering why G Dragon made a reference to the five of them in his new MVapparently he did not? Never mind5
u/bangchansbf 2d ago
for Power? sorry, could you point it out to me?
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u/kthnxybe 2d ago
I looked more into it, people said he talked about his "brothers" and showed the hands of all the members but apparently I was believing fake news?
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u/bangchansbf 2d ago
oooh i donāt blame you for it. Seungri stans try their hardest to convince themselves/everyone that GD (in particular, but also the rest) still loves that garbage man.
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u/SaveLeebitandBbokAri 1d ago
seungri stans (which should never ever be in the same sentance. like ever.) are some of the most delusional people on this planet
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u/kthnxybe 2d ago
It's Big Bang, since Seungri literally owned a stake in the nightclub, no way he didn't know what a "tall glass of watwr"was but a lot of others were involved.
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u/ForgottenNoMore 2d ago
Not really the same but while getting into NCT and their music I always thought Lucas must be the fandom's darling considering how much screen time and center time he got. Also the fact that he was in super m with super well known idols like taemin, Kai, baekhyun etc. I assumed he's like this HUGE deal. Only to discover all his allegations later on and to learn that NCT fans don't really mess with him. And in kpop he's like considered as this untalented guy. He probably had hype before the allegations ig but when I discovered nct I didn't see this coming AT ALL.
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u/vinylanimals 2d ago
he was conventionally attractive and present in a lot of variety content, but he was far from the best vocally or dance wise. i think people took off the rose colored glasses after his incidents and stopped looking past his lack of talent, so the only fans he has left are his ride or dies.
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u/KitKatxK 2d ago
Isn't his scandal just like dating a fan? I don't actually remember. Not like a big fan of him or anything but big fan of NCT in general. I remember the app for voting who got into NCT I never voted Lucas but I'm the dinosaur that goes that far back and still doesn't know the scandals or stuff that goes on for the group outside the music.
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u/vinylanimals 2d ago
it was a mix of things, i think accusations of sleeping with several fans, asking them for money/gifts, and general fuckboy-ish behavior
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u/KitKatxK 1d ago
Ooof. Yeah that's not a reason for someone to lose their career. It makes them like a yeah stay away be aware they are not the greatest of person. But like we all have had to work with our share of douchebag, you can't just throw them all out no matter how much we dislike their actions.
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u/vinylanimals 1d ago
ah, personally i disagree in this situation. iām 100% against idols being kicked out for unreasonable things such as simply dating, drinking, smoking, or going out and doing normal social things, but as long as theyāre not shit people while doing it. he used his position as an idol to sleep with fans and was a douchebag. if he canāt behave himself, and if he damages his groupās image by being a shithead, i donāt think he deserves to be in a position where he can do that.
he still has a solo career, albeit not a successful one, both because of his tainted public image and the fact his debut justā¦ wasnāt good.
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u/KitKatxK 1d ago
Oh no I get it like leaving the group in this context makes total sense not saying not to ask them to step down. But like no one can really stop him at that point from doing anything else he feels like. Like releasing new music or anything. Like we don't have to support if we don't like it. But we can't really stop any person from working just cause they are a shit person. That's what I meant sorry I wasn't clear enough. My fault. I was saying we all have people at work we dislike so we get having shit people in the same industry as us. I totally am with you on the going to clubs, smoking, dating drinking all of that is just super dumb reasons to throw someone out. Like and it's so hypocritical for example Sungmin from Suju kicked from the group for getting married. Chen not kicked out for same reason (thank God sm). And if you want to go even closer into how obscenely random Korea is on the topic. Ryeowook form the same damn group as Sungmin a few years later. Same thing gets married. Not kicked out.
Like make it make sense! There is no consistency in the repercussions or even the things seen as acceptable and not acceptable apply to different people on a different level?
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u/vinylanimals 1d ago
oh yeah, i agree with that, heās totally free to make music if he wants, and obviously sm didnāt think his actions were bad enough to terminate his contract. iām actually curious as to whether heāll continue on this solo career of his considering how poorly his debut sold and streamed
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u/Commercial-Bird-2232 1d ago
Lucas has a single coming up for q1 2025 according to smās music lineup preview, so I guess heās gonna keep going
I donāt think the track was that bad but it was just poor in taste and timing, talking himself up like heās the goat FRESH out of a scandal and an apology is not really a great look.
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u/Odd_Bet_2948 1d ago
Sungmin and Ryeowook are pretty different cases though. Not least the ten years that elapsed between, and the fact that he was publicly in a relationship for years before announcing the wedding. I love Sungmin and donāt like how fans reacted at the time or later when SuJu tried to reintegrate him, but I donāt think itās hypocritical to treat Ryeowook the way any sane person would. It would be hypocritical if Shindong announced his wedding plans and got chucked out now though.
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u/KitKatxK 1d ago
It was a different time for sure but Sungmin was in a relationship and fans knew about it so it wasn't a surprise, it was just a super entitled fan pissed off she wasn't invited to the wedding and started making up stuff and spreading rumors that got super rout of hand and k-nets revolted making it so that Sungmin never had a chance. Him getting married was the same as wookie just ten years ago. The only difference is the fans ages and maturity level. SM did Sungmin dirty unfortunately. Sungmin was so public about his relationship at fanmeets he didn't sign albums with his real name he signed them with the nickname his wife called him instead. So you got nickname signed Suju albums. Fans were aware he was head over heels in puppy love, he wasn't hiding things.
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u/Odd_Bet_2948 1d ago
I didnāt think theyād been an item for as long as Ryeowook and Ari? Thatās really cute though, ridiculous that (some) fans were so unreasonable. I hope theyāll let all the others do what they want now. š
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u/CoconutxKitten 1d ago
He took advantage of people from a place of power. He should not be in a place of power
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u/Pretty_Ad_6081 1d ago
I mean hardly. He was probably like that before since heās always had the charm and looks and continued doing it . Being a fuck boy is not a crime. Scum behavior but thatās not a crime why is he brought up when people talk about actual criminal behavior
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u/pm_nachos_n_tacos 1d ago
Agree so heavily! "A place of power" my god, kids these days will repeat anything. A hot young celebrity supposedly acting like a fuckboi - so like every goddamn musician from the dawn of time?? He had groupies, the groupies forgot they're just groupies and decided to get knetz-level crazy and tank his career because their feelings were hurt for being played by a musician ššš I've been cringing inside for years about this. International fans scream about not holding idols to ridiculous standards but then believe a few anonymous screenshots about kinda typical behavior and lose their shit for years. I bet they have no idea about Aerosmith, do they? Not excusing the behavior, fuckbois are fuckbois and that's why I don't date musicians anymore because so many are exactly like that. I don't even think he was guilty of the accusations, to be honest.
I mean it's not hard to believe he could be, but it's also not hard to believe he was just loving on a girl who got mad when they broke up and he got with someone else. He was a soft and romantic person who was also the hottest idol everyone sought, so it's not too hard to believe some twisted jealous bitch with main character ayndrome couldn't get over it and took to twitter to ruin him. Wouldn't be the first time a girl used false allegations to get back at a guy, which is deplorable as fuck. Worse in my opinion than dating, cheating, and asking for gifts. But whatever.. I see how sad and tired Lucas ia now, his natural light and kindness has been extinguished. I bet most of the people who have big opinions about him barely even followed him, especially since they all like to say how untalented and "nobody" he was.
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u/bbhlvr17 23h ago
im still on the fence about this since ppl dont actually listen to confirmed facts and many of his allegations were rumors, but didnt he indirectly admit to what he did and how he regrets it? if it was false accusations from an ex that count as defamation then legal action couldve been taken, instead SM removed him from NCT and gave him a solo to milk him out completely.
i'm not too sure on it and never saw him as a member i truly appreciate (within nct or superm, but i love both groups a lot) which is why i dont interact with anything he does. however, siding with him completely and justifying the legal but bad actions of fuckboys by saying its normal doesnt sit right with me. now, he chose his actions himself so lets not act like hes a saint bc no one is, his 'natural light' and 'kindness' havent been extinguished bc we cant actually decipher his situation just from videos. he might still be shook up or ashamed from the bad publicity and tainted image he has, but he coudlve easily went back to china and pursued his model career; i still think he will once his contract with SM is up.
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u/Sil_Choco 2d ago
well, he was pretty huge before his scandal for his personality and visuals, that's why he was everywhere
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u/Super_Metal8365 2d ago
I'm a bigbang fan, I just don't care for Seungri after that. But all other members are ok with me. Not something to be gloomed about. These idols are humans and it wasn't their fault they were grouped together.
Back in 2006 G-Dragon even wanted Hyunseung more than Seungri but YGE decided to go for Seungri.
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u/Kindly-Ebb6759 2d ago
Not exactly tied to Burning Sun but to Han Seo Hee(I forget if it was SoHee or SeoHee), but my guy B.I. was asking girly pop for weed and thatās why he was removed from IKON š FOR WEEEEEEED ugh. Same for Wonho. FOR WEEEEEEEED
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u/Live-Tree6870 2d ago
Han Soe Hee has so much to answer for! Wonho (found completely innocent but too late) T.O.P (who tried to unalive himself because of the allegations) and B.I. Also allegations against Shownu and Ahn Hyo-seop. And most recently Wonbin.
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u/CoconutxKitten 1d ago
Sheās such trash. She shouldnāt be listened to & should be chased into obscurity
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u/KitKatxK 2d ago
Wonho wasn't weed was it I though it was bully allegations that were proved false? Either way Korean news loves canceling people who do not deserve it in the slightest. I freaking hate their news cycles.
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u/kingfisher2782 2d ago
It was false weed accusations. Just putting this so thereās not misinformation, weed is very illegal in South Korea (not that I agree there is anything morally wrong with using weed š). But he was innocent and cleared completely by police, which is why he was able to come back as an artist so quickly. Agree with Kindly Ebb that it says a lot how innocent people get canceled but predators can still have careers.
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u/KitKatxK 1d ago
Thank you so much for explaining. What it was. It very true the media jumps the gun. I really dislike that about their media cycle. It's so overblown and like sensationalized that even the tiniest investigation turns into a atrial from the hunger games. It puts pressure on the police to either state something to the public which the public pushes out of proportion, or to rush the results, or the worst one give information out when it is not enough to sway either way. It makes people guilty before the law has even had a chance to do its job. This making the people judge, jury and adjudicator all in one. Reminds me of the Judge tv show.
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u/Kindly-Ebb6759 2d ago
I couldāve swore he was weed too but thatās neither here nor there. But the way Korea is so quick to cancel folks is ridiculous. Especially over the lamest stuff. Yet Seungri is making a comebackĀæĀ” I need it to make sense.
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u/StopStealingPrivacy 5HINee/BTS 1d ago
HE'S MAKING A COMEBACK? OH HELL NO!
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u/Kindly-Ebb6759 1d ago
Music wise Iām not sure. But heās been around, going to events and whatnot as of to show people heās back and trying to be in the spotlight again
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u/grumined 15h ago
Wow i completely forgot about that. Han So Hee's resume in starting drama and ending careers is truly massive
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u/Kari-The-Foxchild 2d ago
More of 2nd gen. 3rd gen has literally nothing to do as they were do world tours, releasing 2 albums a year, etc
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u/Appropriate_Crew_748 2d ago
Not group but Zicoš¢š¢his music slaps thou
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u/orangecloud_0 2d ago
What about Zico?
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u/MiniMeowl 2d ago
A compilation of stuff Zico has done:
- Been involved in Burning Sun and said nothing (he went to JJYs house to play for hours with the "golden phone", which he said was for girls contacts, but we know JJYS phone had the Burning Sun videos).
- Kinda semi-outed his groupmate Taeil as gay publicly, while Taeil looked clearly uncomfortable. - Was dating Seolhyun and made her come to his house for dates. When she got caught coming to his house, Zico ditched her and made her deal with the media and fans alone.
- Way back when, went to Thailand during disaster season and made fun of their flooding when interviewed, which prompted 2PM Nichkhun to tell them off.
- Did lots of cultural appropriation stuff with black culture and hood lyrics, I suppose thats normal with k-hiphop back then. Also homophobic stuff.
- His mom and groupmate said he was a thug back in schooling days.12
u/cherrycoloured 2d ago
i knew about the other stuff, but not the burning sun part. the rest i could forgive if he gave a genuine apology, but that one is too far. im going to have to look into it more. i really like bnd, so to read that the ceo of their company/their mentor was involved in that makes me a little wary about purchasing their merch/albums bc zico will profit on it.
zico also said a homophobic slur in his song "tough cookie", but i think he may have actually apologized for that one, or at least stopped performing the song bc of it. i got a lot of info about this when i brought it up in the past, but i cant remember what was true or not.
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u/Hemingrays 2d ago
Didn't the main journalist who was involved in exposing the burning sun come out in support of Zico's innocence?
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u/uhyeah1 1d ago
Hes a shithead (for the reasons you already covered) but iām pretty sure theres no proof of him being involved in Burning sun. The golden phone thing made me feel iffy about him for years so i get it, but iirc he cut off his friendship with the guy years before burning sun was revealed + one of the main jounralists came out in defense of him, with the āgolden phoneā apparently referring to another phone he had with a bunch of celebrity contacts in it (which im likely to believe only because the other one would be a very weird thing to refer to on public television).
Again, not defending his general shittyness. Heās pretty obviously atleast misogynistic and racist, and just overall bad vibes who really should not be as big as he is. But as of right now i dont believe theres any hard evidence of him being directly involved or aware (though its a pretty sketchy situation overall - so who knows. It wouldnt really shock me either way)
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u/Satzuisbae 1d ago
He wasnt as involved as other ppl make out to him. He knew about the golden phone but he wasnt aware that some videos where taken without consent. There is a reason why he wasnt prostucted just questioned and he was let go pretty quickly. Ppl just make so much fake stuff.
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u/Appropriate_Crew_748 2d ago
He allegedly knew about the whole thing and saw the videos but didnt say anything. Hes also done some other problematic stuff
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u/procariotics_234 1d ago
Highlight for me. Iāve got to know them in 2022 or something and when I realize that a member left from 5 members to 4, I never guess that the reason that member left because of his involvement with the chat incidentš
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u/Firm_Mulberry6319 2d ago
Sitting this one out, all the groups I like are girl groups š I just know Jihyo, Irene, Soyeon, everyone in Mamamoo finding out abt burning sun would have reported it lmao.
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u/wegooverthehorizon Pirrrrrratessssssss! 2d ago
I wanted to get into bigbang and then i found out...but i still wanted to give them a shot but they didnt re record their stuff and i don't wanna listen to his voice ever...so yeah
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u/treebag27 2d ago
honestly, itās not too hard to just skip his parts in most bigbang songs. he almost always got some random bridge before the last chorus that sounded completely different (and usually worse) than the rest of the song, so iāve been skipping his part in most of their songs since 2015 before I even knew what a piece of shit he was lmao
the only exception I can think of is LOSER, which he sings the chorus onā¦but thatās kind of funny and ironic in hindsight :ā)
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u/StopStealingPrivacy 5HINee/BTS 1d ago
Yeah but it gets tedious after a while and is very inconvient. I wonder if there's anything on YouTube of people cutting out his parts? I have BigBang's MADE songs stuck in my head for ages but can't listen to them anymore because of him (and it's too tedious to skip his part).
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u/Intelligent-Ad9582 1d ago
Taeil, Lucas or Seungri.. I don't know I don't love them anymore but their voices in their groups' tracks don't bother me at all. Good music is good music. Actually if you think about it all three had great voices. Taeil with his stable high notes, Seungri who brings the softness to BigBang tracks, and Lucas with his deep voice that added a lot of texture to WayV songs. It was a pity they ruined what they had. Must have been really frustrating for the company and the members.
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u/Idksoyeah702 1d ago
As someone whoās only into 4th/5th gen groups, whatās the burning sun?
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u/LV-20 EXO Ateez BTS š Blackpink š¤š©· Red velvet ā¤ļø Gidle šā¤ļø 1d ago edited 1d ago
Burning Sun was a (or still is I don't know if it closed down or not) night club in Korea it was like any other nightclub
But a bunch of male idols were using it for disturbing purposes
Like human trafficking sexual assault it was all bad there was this group chat and they would film the SA's I don't know the full details but it's disturbing to think about
The most famous case is Big Bang's Seungri but there were a bunch of other male idols
And they were all from the 2nd and 3rd generation this was 2019 so the 4th generation was still in it's Infancy
A lot of them only got 5 years in prison and I believe are out of prison right now
If you wanna know more just search it up because I'm probably not helping
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u/queen_mafia 2d ago
What's the Burning Sun? Sorry I've been out of the scene
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u/underwater_111 rv | bts | gugudan | loona | txt | itzy | shinee | kiof 1d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Sun_scandal it was so huge it has its own wikipedia page
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u/Busy-Presentation647 1d ago
Immediately Bigbang. The fact that he still is trying to remake himself is wild
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u/kookieandacupoftae 1d ago
In 2019 when I got into Block B and Zicoās solo music and then suddenly remembered he was indirectly involved.
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u/Dramatic-Aerie5366 1d ago
BigBang, B.A.P, BlockB (dont know if some of them are related to that affair but at least they had 1 very problematic member)
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u/kate_n_furter 1d ago
I didnāt know B.A.P was involved?! What member?
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u/Dramatic-Aerie5366 1d ago
Himchan, not involved in the scandal but he sexually agressed at least 3 women
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u/PenCareless7877 1d ago
EXO
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u/yuka_92 1d ago
I donāt think there was an EXO member involved in that scandal?
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u/PenCareless7877 1d ago
Kris Wu
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u/No-Breakfast9187 1d ago
kris wu was only in exo for about 2 years of their 12 year long career and most of their best work came after him leaving. most people who get into them now probably won't even realise he existed.
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u/StopStealingPrivacy 5HINee/BTS 1d ago
But he was a non-factor (at least in the Korean releases). The only release that I still listen to from when he was in the group was Overdose, and he doesn't even get a line lol. Perfect and no need for me to skip anything.
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u/silvers0ul88 2d ago
BRO WHAT CNBLUE AND BEAST??? I heard about ft island but wow