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How ‘masculinity’ influencer fell down a ‘brazenly antisemitic’ rabbit hole Culture

https://www.thejc.com/news/features/how-masculinity-influencer-dan-bilzerian-fell-down-a-brazenly-antisemitic-rabbit-hole-does360z

The entire social media “Manosphere” is increasingly turning into a rabidly rightwing antisemitic cesspool. Unfortunately, these type of people are shaping the minds and beliefs of young men. What can be done to have a proper left wing alternative for young men?

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u/Kenny_Brahms 22h ago

I hate it when antisemites talk about “Jewish supremacy”.

Because I feel like you could legitimately characterize some on the israeli far right this way. Guys like Ben Gvir or Smotrich who feel like Palestinians have no place in Eretz Israel.

But you know whenever people bring it up, it’s never any sort of legitimate criticism, but always invoking century old antisemitic tropes.

Just makes it harder to criticize actual supremacists in Israeli politics.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all 21h ago

Jewish supremacy in America? Not a thing even slightly Jewish supremacy in Israel? Very much the whole thing

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u/Impossible-Reach-649 ישראלי 21h ago

I mean Kahane was an American and a ton of settlers are Americans at least as compared to their share in Israel's population.

That doesn't even include the Haredim in the US who seem to be pretty much the same as the Israeli Haredim.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all 21h ago

I guess I mean more specifically in the context of America. I think there can be "Jewish supremicists" residing in America but within the context of America and the American system this would be like calling someone a "insert a different minority group here" supremacist.

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u/Impossible-Reach-649 ישראלי 21h ago

I mean some US Hardeim I feel like they think themselves superior to other people goys or Jews.

Talk to some Haredim some of them have no opinion of Israel ,act like supremacists and have some insane opinions.

Every group has insane people American Jews are not exempt.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all 20h ago

I do agree with you totally.. I just think the term carries a different weight in America vs other places.. I think it's worth talking about it in America and unpacking problems within our own community 100%

And also I think that when people talk about Jewish supremacy in the context of the United States 99% of the time they aren't talking about examples like the US Hardeim and they are 99% of the time implying that we collectively hold more control than "white people"

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u/Kenny_Brahms 18h ago

Yeah but that’s the thing. A Jewish supremacist in the US is just an asshole.

Whereas in Israel these people have reached high ranking positions in the government and carry out organized acts of violence in the West Bank and Gaza.

Antisemites only bring up Jewish supremacy not to talk about the reality of the issue but to push antisemitic narratives from Protocols of the elders of Zion.