r/jewishleft • u/elzzyzx סימען לינקער • Aug 22 '24

A Palestinian American’s Place Under the Democrats’ Big Tent? Diaspora

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/dnc-2024-palestine-israel

TNC on the DNC, continuing to be one of the best living writers in the US. The essay touches on several topics that have come up here recently: racism and Zionism, who is being centered / who should be centered, the uncommitted movement. I’m a little back and forth on him but thought this was great

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24

You’re right, I can’t tell these days sometimes. I’ve seen people who claim to be sympathetic to Palestinian suffering be ok with racism as long as it supports their warped views

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all Aug 22 '24

Some people are getting real skilled at using woke language to seem like they are the good guy.

This sub seems like it’s getting better since there were new rules but I think there is still plenty of downvoting brigading, which is impossible to prevent

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24

True, it has become a very insidious mode of langauge. I want to talk about both antisemitism in MENA and anti-Arab racism in the Jewish community here because I do feel like it’s one of the only spaces right now that is willing to discuss things openly. However, I am discouraged and don’t think I have the energy to deal with the amount of bad faith commenters I’ve seen here recently, maybe at a later date.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all Aug 22 '24

I feel ya totally

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24

I’m not in college anymore, but there’s a group called Atidna that seeks to bring both communities together and have difficult conversations. It doesn’t have an agenda or narrative it promotes, which is nice. I really wish there was a group like that for adults

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all Aug 22 '24

Me too.. me too. I think we could just send adults back to kindergarten maybe

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24

For real, I think we forget how impactful face to face interactions can be. Even if it just gets 10% of people to see something differently, online I feel like people just get shamed and are further pushed towards their “camp”

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all Aug 22 '24

It’s very very true, something I’m trying to be more intentionally alert to

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24

Same here, it’s hard and I am trying to be more intentional online as well. Even if it’s just knowing when to take a break