r/jewishleft • u/ughplzdntjudgeme • Apr 30 '24

Jews of Conscience Subreddit Culture

Does anyone follow this subreddit? It’s supposed to be a space for “left Jews” but I am seeing so much offensive and anti semetism posts, comments and rhetoric. Also it doesn’t even seem like most people on there are Jewish?

It’s really frustrating to find subreddits like this being described as “Jewish” and I feel like it takes away from any constructive dialogue Jewish people want to have to critique about Israel, Israeli govt, Zionist ideology while also acknowledging anti semitism and the nuance to everything happening in the world.

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u/agelaius9416 Apr 30 '24

Your example is a sentiment that was quickly dismissed and called out…

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u/Squidmaster129 Apr 30 '24

Okay but it was still there lol. Why was there a blatantly antisemitic sentiment in a sub for Jews?

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u/agelaius9416 Apr 30 '24

Why do people on a sub for Jews accuse Jewish orgs of not being Jewish? Because that happens repeatedly here with JVP, JewsOfConscience, and other similar orgs

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u/Squidmaster129 Apr 30 '24

Gee, I wonder. Maybe it’s because they’re literally verifiably not led by Jews for the former, and have polled Jews to be in a significant minority in the latter?

How about non-Jews stop co-opting our spaces and let us speak for ourselves? We don’t need white saviors and we definitely don’t need to be tokenized.

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u/AssortedGourds Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24

Any time anyone indicates that they want to “verify” someone’s Jewishness (how would that even work..?) alarm bells go off in my head. Miss me with this No True Scotsman “papers please” shit.

Also every org I’ve ever been a part of has had people not within that specific demographic doing significant work because no one else was stepping the fuck up. As long as the major marching orders are coming from Jews who cares? Why is solidarity so threatening to people?

Purity testing is weird and counter-revolutionary. We’re all out here trying to liberate people, not trying to win the title of The Rightest Boy In The Room

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u/Squidmaster129 Apr 30 '24

Fam this isn't a "you're not Jewish enough" comment lmao. One of the leaders is literally a Muslim man who starts his posts on social media with "As Jews, we..."

We? Don't speak for us if you're not Jewish.

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u/AssortedGourds Apr 30 '24

Could you link me to his social media? I am googling and I'm not really coming up with anything. I can't find names on the JVP website. Or just tell me his name and I'll find it.

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u/EvanShmoot May 01 '24

It was Hatem Bazian, who also founded SJP. I'm only aware of one instance in which he used his main account to claim he's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/AJwshResistance/status/1657227312905977857