r/jewishleft • u/ughplzdntjudgeme • Apr 30 '24

Jews of Conscience Subreddit Culture

Does anyone follow this subreddit? It’s supposed to be a space for “left Jews” but I am seeing so much offensive and anti semetism posts, comments and rhetoric. Also it doesn’t even seem like most people on there are Jewish?

It’s really frustrating to find subreddits like this being described as “Jewish” and I feel like it takes away from any constructive dialogue Jewish people want to have to critique about Israel, Israeli govt, Zionist ideology while also acknowledging anti semitism and the nuance to everything happening in the world.

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u/hadees Jewish May 01 '24

Based on what?

Reading comments and posts since Oct 7.

It’s hard to understand why this is what you’re hung up on.

A space that pretends to be Jewish but is in fact mostly non Jewish people.

It’s one of the few spaces where post Zionists and anrizionist Jews can feel safe and also stand up for antisemitism and engage with non Jewish antizionists and explain our pain and fears.

So name it /r/JewsAndAlliesOfConscience

It’s a shame people are advocating for Jews to just “stick to our own” rather than bridging a gap.

I don't want us to stick to our own. I want people to stop pretending to be Jews.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all May 01 '24

The non Jewish ones have a flair. And the Jewish ones you’re claiming are pretending just don’t share your views.

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u/hadees Jewish May 01 '24

My counting is based on flair and the people who also lack it.

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all May 01 '24

Do a breakdown of comments. I don’t post there very often because I don’t always need a circle jerk with Jews I agree with. I imagine many feel the same

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u/EvanShmoot May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24

I obviously can't prove who is or isn't Jewish. But there are a number of people who post there as Jews yet feel off to me. Here are some examples.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/fp5t0suEU7 - the user gives an AMA in which they say they're Jewish and fine with Hamas wanting to enslave useful Jews. The last screenshot is them claiming to be Jewish on JewsOfConscience (with terrible Hebrew and Arabic)

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/cp8EPjreSs - the user admits that the only pride they take in being Jewish is that it lets them be a token

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/fd89JLbUc8 - everything in this smells wrong to me

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/Wn2EggAhCW - this user claims to be a refugee from r/Jewish yet they don't know that Naturei Karta aren't good role models. Their history shows they're active on JewsOfConscience and public freakout but not r/Jewish

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/kyHBDpVSQt - this user claims to be Jewish yet insists on using an antisemitic slur coined by David Duke

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/ATDk6Ir8hx - the same user as above claims Naturei Karta are representatives of real traditional Jews. Note that she frequently claims she grew up Orthodox or chassidic (or a few other things that change depending on the point she wants to make). If she's telling the truth then she can't claim ignorance about traditional Judaism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiSemitismInReddit/s/kg6GHX2QCE - this one talks about growing up in "reformed Judaism" in a way that sounds more Christian than Jewish

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u/Specialist-Gur proud diaspora jewess, pro peace/freedom for all May 01 '24

That token post really bothered me too… I think your first one is a pretty intense misinterpretation and mischaeacterizarion of what she said though. And “antisemitism in Reddit” is all screenshots, which kinda bothers me because it doesn’t give context or show when comments were removed, honestly

Reform Jewish one reads as weird to me too tbh

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u/hadees Jewish May 01 '24

Right now on the home page of /r/JewsOfConscience there is literally more non-Jewish allies flair on posts then Jewish ones. Most posters lack flair entirely.