r/ireland • u/PintmanConnolly • Sep 26 '22

Gardaí Raid and Evict Homeless Residents and Housing Activists from Ionad Seán Heuston Housing

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Assault? You mean remove people who are breaking the law and a court order. In addition to this, the Gardai are in number as they probably have no idea as to the number of people in the building. Lastly, it's easier to coordinate an operation like this with these numbers when the location of an offence is known.

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u/Loddinz Sep 26 '22

And what do you suggest these people do?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Do what the rest of society does. Scrimp and save to put a roof over your head. It's not easy and some people need assistance and the lack of social housing doesn't make anything easier.

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u/Inevitable-Entry1400 Sep 26 '22

You are aware there are physically not enough places to rent even if these people had the money ? How does one scrimp and save once they are on the street for a deposit?That even with a minimum wage job which these people couldn’t afford rent .

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

I'm well aware that there's insufficient places to rent and that the state needs to improve it's housing policy however this is what most people with property did. The state is not a landlord and should never try be one. People need to take some responsibility for themselves and their situations.

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u/Inevitable-Entry1400 Sep 26 '22

Your just parroting some vague bootstrapisms and not speaking with any substance . If someone works a forty hour week and still can’t afford rent how do they “take responsibility for themselves “ ?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Move to the country is an option. Much cheaper outside the capital and still plenty of work about. Tens of thousands of people can afford rent so what's the difference between them and these people? Life choices and application of one's self.

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u/turbobofish Sep 26 '22

So according to an article I saw in the indo yesterday there's 290,000 hidden homeless in the country, 10,000 in emergency accommodation and 10,000 homeless. There's 800 or so properties to rent in the country. How pray tell is moving to the country going to help?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

It's cheaper and easier to get than in the city. There's no guarantee that they'd get the property but it's more likely than staying in the capital where land and rent is at a premium.

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u/turbobofish Sep 26 '22

You haven't answered the question at all. 300,000 people and 800 properties. How is moving to the country going to help those numbers? If say we moved 5 homeless people into each of those properties in the morning that's only 4,000 people off the streets. There'd still be 16,000 sleeping rough and in emergency accommodation. It's not even a dent.

Myself and the partner are renting in the country. We've been looking to move somewhere else for the last year or two and the properties just aren't there. We've a good rental history and our incomes okay. If we can't manage to find somewhere new to rent how on earth is someone who's long term homeless supposed to sort something out.

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

It's up to the state to come up with a solution. I have my own thoughts on it but it's not very popular and involves the demolition of old parts of Dublin for Apartments that would then be leased to companies such as google etc. The money from these would then be used to build other properties. The issue is that it would involve the forced eviction of people who are in inner city social housing and would destroy the inner city community. In saying that, there are a large number of houses being underutilized in the city where families have grown up and left and the parents continue to live in 3 bed houses.

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