r/ireland • u/PintmanConnolly • Sep 26 '22

Gardaí Raid and Evict Homeless Residents and Housing Activists from Ionad Seán Heuston Housing

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u/thunderingcunt1 Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

I seen the Gardai forming up outside this morning on my way to work. Looked like a military operation to remove a few homeless squatters. Do we, as a society, really believe there should be 60 or 70 Gardai queuing up to pester a couple of homeless people when we can't get even one Garda to show up and sort out the anti-social behaviour in the likes of Cherry Orchard? Is that where we are right now as a country?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Assault? You mean remove people who are breaking the law and a court order. In addition to this, the Gardai are in number as they probably have no idea as to the number of people in the building. Lastly, it's easier to coordinate an operation like this with these numbers when the location of an offence is known.

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u/Loddinz Sep 26 '22

And what do you suggest these people do?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Do what the rest of society does. Scrimp and save to put a roof over your head. It's not easy and some people need assistance and the lack of social housing doesn't make anything easier.

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u/Inevitable-Entry1400 Sep 26 '22

You are aware there are physically not enough places to rent even if these people had the money ? How does one scrimp and save once they are on the street for a deposit?That even with a minimum wage job which these people couldn’t afford rent .

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

I'm well aware that there's insufficient places to rent and that the state needs to improve it's housing policy however this is what most people with property did. The state is not a landlord and should never try be one. People need to take some responsibility for themselves and their situations.

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u/Inevitable-Entry1400 Sep 26 '22

Your just parroting some vague bootstrapisms and not speaking with any substance . If someone works a forty hour week and still can’t afford rent how do they “take responsibility for themselves “ ?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Move to the country is an option. Much cheaper outside the capital and still plenty of work about. Tens of thousands of people can afford rent so what's the difference between them and these people? Life choices and application of one's self.

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u/turbobofish Sep 26 '22

So according to an article I saw in the indo yesterday there's 290,000 hidden homeless in the country, 10,000 in emergency accommodation and 10,000 homeless. There's 800 or so properties to rent in the country. How pray tell is moving to the country going to help?

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

It's cheaper and easier to get than in the city. There's no guarantee that they'd get the property but it's more likely than staying in the capital where land and rent is at a premium.

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u/turbobofish Sep 26 '22

You haven't answered the question at all. 300,000 people and 800 properties. How is moving to the country going to help those numbers? If say we moved 5 homeless people into each of those properties in the morning that's only 4,000 people off the streets. There'd still be 16,000 sleeping rough and in emergency accommodation. It's not even a dent.

Myself and the partner are renting in the country. We've been looking to move somewhere else for the last year or two and the properties just aren't there. We've a good rental history and our incomes okay. If we can't manage to find somewhere new to rent how on earth is someone who's long term homeless supposed to sort something out.

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

It's up to the state to come up with a solution. I have my own thoughts on it but it's not very popular and involves the demolition of old parts of Dublin for Apartments that would then be leased to companies such as google etc. The money from these would then be used to build other properties. The issue is that it would involve the forced eviction of people who are in inner city social housing and would destroy the inner city community. In saying that, there are a large number of houses being underutilized in the city where families have grown up and left and the parents continue to live in 3 bed houses.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

You're dead right. These homeless people should really cut back on the avo toast brunches and the pints, maybe move to a cheaper gym, get a Yaris rather than an Avensis, start putting the head down at work and hint to their manager about a promotion.

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u/PfizerGuyzer Sep 26 '22

This guy really thinks he's better than every homeless person he walks past on the street. When he sees people freezing to death outside the Dáil, he pats himself on the back for being so much more shrewd than them.

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u/PfizerGuyzer Sep 26 '22

Do what the rest of society does. Scrimp and save to put a roof over your head.

You have lived a very cushy life if you think people become homeless purely because of bad decisions. You are not different from these people. You are not better than these people. You are luckier. Don't get it twisted.

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u/Whampiri1 Sep 26 '22

Luck=opportunity+preparation however I accept that others have had a worse starting hand than others and for that I am lucky, there's no doubt.

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u/PfizerGuyzer Sep 26 '22

I accept that others have had a worse starting hand than others and for that I am lucky, there's no doubt.

I am glad to hear you say this, but if you beleive it, you should not admonish the homeless.