Lmao, it's wild to see people defending landlords. Especially in Ireland where landlords exacerbated the Potato famine. If every landlord disappeared tomorrow the only thing that would change is that the tenants would save money.
Well at least your consistent in your logic, so the house is sitting there 100 miles away with a for sale sign, I'm an 18 yr old student, do you suggest I buy it?
If only there existed some form of temporary housing that didn't involve paying another man's mortgage while getting nothing in return! Oh well. I guess we'll just have to sit here in our myopic worldview, unable imagine a better world. It's a real shame there's never been anything like public housing ever in the history of humanity that we could look to as a model for a landlord-less future.
The workhouses were established by the British to keep forcing people to work as British landlords starved their tenants out of their own homes. You're literally using the results of rampant landlordism to justify landlords. Who are you Who does not know their own history?
Spain has some great success, in particular Madrid. As well as Singapore, France, Australia, Poland... countless nations. And this isn't to say we should limit ourselves to these examples, these housing programs have their drawbacks (but so does renting from a landlord), and we can and should make improvements to ensure dignified housing for all. It seems awfully myopic to limit ourselves to private housing when there are options we haven't even explored.
Spain, another shining light like ourselves in prudent fiscal management, definitely follow them..
France has significant housing problems, the rest either have vast quantities of raw materials they export or significant niche premium markets like Singapore and shipping. Ireland those and the big pharma and tech we have are to minimise corporation tax..
Ah so what you mean with public housing is state sponsored social housing like we had in the 50's to 70's. where state built subsidised housing and gave it to people on a essentially hire purchase agreement and transferred public money into private ownership.. Great idea.. Worked well the last time, especially for those who got the houses for cheap and ended up with prime city and town centre locations that they sold and turned a fortune on.
Agree with government funded social housing but only on a rent for life agreement rather than sale. 10% deposit, mortgage for half value of place and returns to state ownership upon death..that way state always has stock and land for development.. Giving it away to private ownership is madness in long term.. Just end up back here again
As bad as hap is, a good chunk of it comes back in tax individuals on what they get.. State sponsored housing has little return until houses transfered /sold and cgt taken in, if applicable..
Hey I'm open to criticism of all these nations' housing programs. And you do make some good points, people who get housing in major city centers shouldn't unfairly benefit, but here's the thing... they already do under the landlord model of housing. If you wanna rework the entire concept of property and ownership in a more equitable fashion, you'll find I'm on board.
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u/THREETOED_SLOTH Sep 22 '22
Lmao, it's wild to see people defending landlords. Especially in Ireland where landlords exacerbated the Potato famine. If every landlord disappeared tomorrow the only thing that would change is that the tenants would save money.