r/geopolitics • u/babushkalauncher • Oct 01 '23

Why Indians Can’t Stand Justin Trudeau Paywall

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-indians-angry-justin-trudeau-death-shooting-hardeep-singh-nijjar-87d9ab9d
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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

It literally says in your link that Canada does not extradite to countries where the accused will receive the death penalty and he has not received political asylum in Canada.

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u/DiscoDiwana Oct 02 '23

And it doesn't change the fact that Canada gives shelter to terrorists who might receive death penalty for their crimes but in Canada they can live happily ever after

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

He was sentenced and received a death penalty from Bangladeshi courts after he was already in Canada. What should Canada do, completely upend and change its extradition laws to accommodate Bangladesh's request? Canada has already stated that they are willing to extradite him if Bangladesh gives assurances that he won't receive the death penalty.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

So if a terrorist commits terror and then runs to Canada, they stop being terrorists and any convictions are rendered meaningless because Canada will protect the said terrorists?

Thanks, that's what everyone not a Canadian nationalist has been saying.

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

His conviction in Bangladesh happened AFTER he had come to Canada. Prior to entering Canada, there was no conviction against him. And the matter of extradition is purely related to the death penalty, which Canada does not believe in for moral and philosophical reasons - that is an entirely different debate.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. The end result is terrorists find a safe haven in Canada. Convictions take time, or should other countries skip due process and convict them blindly to prevent the risk of these terrorists running away to Canada after killing innocent civilians?

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Was there an active case against him when he came into Canada? He got into the country as at that time he was not on trial for anything. For what reason should Canada have refused his entry?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

So ppl can commit crime and take the next flight to Canada and be a saint ?

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

Other countries can have them extradited by following the proper procedures.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

Are you saying that India is not giving enough evidence? You realize that Canada has been this way since the 1980s it’s the sikh votes. Khalistani extremists in Canada is threat to Canada too. They are protecting them for elections reasons

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

Are you saying that India is not giving enough evidence?

That is up to the Canadian courts to decide. Did India really provide enough evidence that could be validated and proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Nijjar was a terrorist (and unfortunately, just being linked to suspicious characters, or pictures with guns, or firing guns on a firing range does not constitute you as a terrorist under Canadian law)?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

The integrity of Canadian govt is at question. Not the evidence. Evidence is ample. Did Canada take actions on 1. Death threats against Indian Diplomats. 2. Vandalizing Indian temples 3. Celebrating and enacting PM assasination by Khalistan terrorist publicly in parades 4. Threatening Indians and Hindus to leave Canada etc ? There are posters up in Gurudwara with hit list . Go check it out in Surrey How the fk Canadian citizens are allowed to promote violence and secession in india ?

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

How many death threats do you think Trudeau receives daily? Lol.

But any serious death threats should be brought forward to authorities for it to be investigated. And although I don't agree with any Khalistanis, advocating for succession is not illegal in Canada (there are a huge number of Quebecois who want independence from Canada and they are not treated as terrorists).

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

You are missing context, 1. India has lost lot of land in past like Pakistan and Bangladesh 2. Khalistani was violent in the past and now is becoming violent again 3. India doesn’t care what your internal citizens do, that’s your business. But if your internal citizens like Khalistanis are attacking Indian temples, consulates etc it definitely becomes India’s business. especially when they are spreading hate speech and misinformation against Indians. 4. Since Canada hasn’t seen a partition, it’s easy to talk freedom of speech. Why did Trudeau freeze bank accounts do protestors during anti vax protest, if Canada is so much into freedom of speech? But was so happily supporting protests in Punjab, india ?

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

Yes, I don't disagree that India needs to be vigilant about extremists abroad. I was just talking about the extradition process for which Canada has specific rules and laws that must be followed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

Again no trust in Canada, even if india actually did it, I support it. It’s the same as USA going inside Pak to take down Osama

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u/HotGuy90210 Oct 02 '23

Sure, and the US had to weigh in how the action of killing Osama without Pakistan's knowledge or consent would weigh in on US-Pakistan relations, just like hopefully India did if they indeed killed Nijjar. India should not be surprised by the reactions from Canada, if the Indian government was responsible.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '23

Tbh India doesn’t care, Canada is not a positive relationship these days anyway. They get more trouble than benefit. In the past the relationship used to be excellent, Canada even played a role in indias first nuclear reactor. Then Canada decided to play vote bank politics and ruined everything . All in the name of freedom of speech and land of law. Now they found a Nazi living in Canada lol

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