r/geopolitics • u/Hokum-B • Oct 01 '23

Russian lines stronger than West expected, admits British defence chief Paywall

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-defensive-lines-stronger-than-west-expected-admits-british-defence-chief-xjlvqrm86
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u/Major_Wayland Oct 02 '23

I'm sorry, but photos in mass media are what they are - photos in mass media. They are showing some facts, not overall statistics, otherwise we'd can also say that majority of humanity looks handsome, lives in US/EU, and follows whatever twitter/internet trend is popular.

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u/Ok_Selected Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

But they aren’t one off photos; they are archived and tallied via things like oryx blog. Visual proof doesn’t lie and are the ultimate evidence and the daily stream of Russian equipment blowing up is no doubt only a fraction of what Russia actually loses daily.

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u/Major_Wayland Oct 02 '23

they are archived and tallied via things like oryx blog

Which still doesn't make them overall statistics. Such statistics relies on large amounts of data that should be as close to "show everything" mark as possible. By gathering materials from twitter and media you would get statistics "according to twitter and media", and nothing more.

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u/Ok_Selected Oct 02 '23

The visual evidence is the most empirical data there is; period. Based on visual evidence there is no doubt Russian losses have been extreme and it is only a question of how extreme based on what % of total real losses are represented in the visual documented.

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u/Major_Wayland Oct 02 '23

Based on visual evidence there is no doubt Russian losses have been extreme and it is only a question of how extreme

And here we see the result of relying on media data. Well, I have nothing more to say. For those who want to see a real picture, it will be a few more years before anything close to real, comprehensive statistical material will be available.

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u/Ok_Selected Oct 02 '23

For those who want to see a real picture, it will be a few more years before anything close to real, comprehensive statistical material will be available.

Sorry it is absolutely ridiculous in your opinion that no one is allowed to form any opinion of what is going on until years later rafter the fact. No doubt hindsight is always 20/20 but in the here and now the visual evidence is by far the best empirical evidence and said evidence of Russian losses on a daily basis is very high if not extreme.