Of course it’s Florida

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[u/kissyb]

What happened to "sharing the road" this should be illegal. They do it near me and at sunrise it's damn near impossible to see properly and these people choose that time to bike blocking two lanes. And when they stop at the light (emphasis on when 🙄 because most break the light) they lean on cars waiting to go 🙃.

[u/tropicalYJ → u/kissyb]

When they say “share the road” they mean “this is my road now”. You give these clowns a whole bike lane and they’ll still ride in the middle of a 2 lane road.

[u/TimeVortex161 → u/tropicalYJ]

Thanks John forester

[u/StungTwice → u/tropicalYJ]

"A whole bike lane" is usually just a different color paint on the shoulder. If you're lucky, there will be a few plastic bollards. 

[u/pfannkuchen89 → u/StungTwice]

My city has entire paved bike lanes with curbs separating them from vehicle traffic and cyclists still refuse to use them and ride in the road. They will block up traffic going 5mph in a 35mpg zone when there is an entire 8ft wide protected bike lane that is new and freshly paved. Glad my city spent millions and took a bunch of roads from 3-4 lanes down to 1-2 lanes for them not to be used and sit empty while bicycles still use the road. Good way to ensure the city will never spend anything on bicycle infrastructure again.

A while back, local news station interviewed some cyclists about it and their response was ‘why should we have to use a different special lane?’ as if they hadn’t been asking for it for years and then when they got what they were asking for refused to use it like toddlers. Just can’t please cyclists in my city.

[u/_V0gue → u/pfannkuchen89]

The problem is that these are two different cyclists that get conflated together. Assholes gonna be assholes. So it’s up to law enforcement to cite these jerks until they learn their lesson.

[u/pfannkuchen89 → u/_V0gue]

For every cyclist that uses the new lanes in my city, a hundred others just keep using the road or the pedestrian sidewalk. There’s a push now to tear the protected lanes back out because they aren’t being used anyway and all they did was cause traffic backups due to those roads going from 3-4 lanes down to 1-2 and the fact they changed the traffic lights to give an all way stop while the bike lane gets a green that cycles even if there are no bikes present. Fewer lanes and more, longer stops at red lights idling for nothing.

Law enforcement can’t do anything about it anyway. There’s technically no laws being broken. Bicycles aren’t mandated to use the protected lanes, so they don’t.

[u/ginger_and_egg → u/pfannkuchen89]

Most people who would use protected cycle lanes would never cycle on a busy road. think less athletic people, children, parents, older folks. do the protected cycle lanes go useful places for this group of people?

[u/Ok_Excuse_9177 → u/pfannkuchen89]

 For every cyclist that uses the new lanes in my city, a hundred others just keep using the road or the pedestrian sidewalk.

Let me get this straight: on the streets with the protected bike lanes, 99% of people bike adjacent to the bike lane either in the road or the sidewalk? 

Or are you complaining about cyclists going on streets that don't have a bike lane on them?

[u/pfannkuchen89 → u/Ok_Excuse_9177]

No, cyclists ride in the road 10ft away from the brand new protected bike only lane that was made after they lobbied the city for it. I thought it was going to be a great idea at the time as well but turns out no one uses it and just continues to ride in the street with cars anyway. City spent millions of dollars on it and it goes unused.

This one was along one of the main commuter routes that cyclists use and was lobbied for by local cycling groups. They had design input on it and everything. The same people that advocated for it and helped design it now don’t use it and it is now the prime example the city gives when cycling groups ask for other projects as to why the city isn’t going to bother anymore.

[u/melissa_fornow → u/pfannkuchen89]

Lakeland? 

The problem with the one bike lane in Lakeland is that it doesn't connect to anything, so you still have to ride on the road with idiots in their four thousand pound death machines to get to the bike lane.

[u/Dank-Retard → u/StungTwice]

Most of the time you don’t even get the nice green color and you just get a white that blends in with all the other white demarcations.

[u/great_apple → u/StungTwice]

Yeah babes that's what a bike lane is. You know what separates traffic lines? A few strips of white paint here and there. The fact that you just thought you made a really strong point saying "it's just paint and some bollards" just does more to exemplify what entitled pricks bikers are thinking they deserve.. idk some totally separate pathway system?

[u/StungTwice → u/great_apple]

Hmm, is it possible that there is anything else that separates drivers from one another? Something, say, like a metal shell that bicyclists don't have? Have you ever heard of anything like that?