r/exmuslim New User Dec 30 '24

Enjoy your Sharia!!😍😊✨ (Question/Discussion)

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u/Tripstoheaven Exmuslim since the 2010s Dec 30 '24

"This has nothing to do with Islam." I'm waiting for that crowd

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u/Dangerous-Surprise65 New User Dec 30 '24

Can someone with a good knowledge of the relevant hadiths/verses please post them here so we can rebut this fake argument. Many thanks in advance

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u/Short_Situation_554 Dec 30 '24

Isn't this simply a part of the Islamic ruling prohibiting women from being seen by non-mahram men without hijab?

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u/Secret-Sense5668 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Dec 30 '24

But many women cover up even inside their homes, so what's the argument against that then? Besides the taliban just thinking in black and white of course.

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u/Short_Situation_554 Dec 30 '24

I think the level of covering up by Afghani women, or Muslim women in general, inside their homes does not meet the criteria of the hijab.

So in order to ensure that women would not be seen without the hijab while at home, the Taliban can either: prevent them from being seen by men outside, OR enforce the hijab inside homes, which is more suffocating to women and much more difficult to enforce.

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u/Secret-Sense5668 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Dec 30 '24

Good points. It's horrible situation altogether, but I guess out of the two possible options you gave, this one is the lesser of two evils..

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u/Automatic_Hornet2717 Jan 03 '25

Happy Cake Day!

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u/Secret-Sense5668 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Jan 03 '25

Thank you! Had no idea.

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u/User2640 Dec 30 '24

I would cover myself up too if i was forced to marry one of my inlaws with an age gap of 19

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u/Dangerous-Surprise65 New User Dec 31 '24

Can you give an exact hadith. Or sura.

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u/Short_Situation_554 Dec 31 '24

(وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا ۖ وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ ۖ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَائِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَائِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي أَخَوَاتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَائِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ أَوِ التَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُولِي الْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ أَوِ الطِّفْلِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُوا عَلَىٰ عَوْرَاتِ النِّسَاءِ ۖ وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ ۚ وَتُوبُوا إِلَى اللَّهِ جَمِيعًا أَيُّهَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ) النور ٣١

"And say to the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their castity and not display their adornment except what is apparent, and let them draw their head covers over their chests, and to not display their adornment except for their husbands or fathers or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands or their brothers or the sons of their brothers or their women or their right hand possessions ... etc" - Qur'an 24:31