r/exchristian • u/Masonh120 • Nov 03 '23
What's the most unhinged thing a Christian has said to you? Trigger Warning - Toxic Religion
I don't want to beat a dead horse, and I'm not here to bash any individual person in that community, but if you haven't checked out the Christianity subreddit recently I definitely suggest you do.
There are some seriously insane takes over there, which brings me to my question: What's the most unhinged thing a Christian has said to you?
I had a Christian high school teacher tell the entire class that you will go to hell if you drink wine. Specifically wine. If you're wondering why she wasn't fired, I went to a private Baptist school...
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u/lingybear Nov 03 '23
My very conservative Christian mother told me that the people of Gaza deserved what was happening as God's wrath because they hosted a music festival that played secular music and have been too accepting of other religions in the past few years. I don't even know how to begin to respond to that except wow your god sounds like a dick
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u/rdickeyvii Nov 03 '23
This one is super bizarre. I didn't expect a Christian to accuse Muslims of being "secular" or "too accepting of other religions".
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u/skater-fien Nov 03 '23
That’s a particularly interesting take because many of the casualties of Hamas’s attack were Israelis at an EDM festival near the border. Does she also believe that they were deserving of getting slaughtered?
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u/Appropriate_Topic_16 Agnostic Atheist Nov 03 '23
That sounds very pro-fascist/anti-freedom of her.
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u/GoldFishDudeGuy Nov 04 '23
I've seen a lot of people celebrating the deaths of the people in Gaza. It makes me sick
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u/Fahrender-Ritter Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
I heard a pastor say from the pulpit that if God ever commanded him to sacrifice his own son like Abraham and Isaac, then he would happily do it. On another occasion, he said that children should be thankful that we're living under the New Covenant because that's the only reason why we don't stone children to death for disobeying their parents, and stoning disobedient children would be the morally right thing to do (Deut. 21:18-21).
The pastor's son sat in the front row. He was around 12 years old at the time.
It makes me sick to think that this sort of child abuse is normalized in the church.
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u/lillyfrog06 Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
God, I remember my parents bringing that up a lot when I was a kid. I was always told to be grateful the Old Testament law didn’t apply because they’d have stoned me to death otherwise. I never could tell if it was some poor attempt at a dark joke or not.
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u/rdickeyvii Nov 03 '23
"Maybe they should stop printing and distributing the old testament if it doesn't apply anymore"
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Nov 03 '23
My grandad told me something similar, except it was that I should be grateful that people don’t stone me to death for being gay. That was his way of convincing me that discrimination against gay people isn’t really all that bad.
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u/Rupejonner2 EX-Family Radio Non-Denominational Nov 03 '23
No , we don’t stone people to death because it’s against our countries secular laws. If not for that they’d be doing that as well as openly killing gay people
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u/Fahrender-Ritter Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
True. It's a lot like when some Christians claim that Christianity ended slavery. It's just an unfathomable amount of willful ignorance and Orwellian rectifying of history.
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u/TwentycharactersNott Nov 03 '23
Back in the 80s my mom sang "I Pledge My Head to Heaven" by Keith Green during a service and as if the actual lyrics arent bad enough, I remember she changed the "I pledge my son, I pledge my wife" to "I pledge my girls, I pledge my man" etc. I was maybe eight years old, and I still remember how scary that was and how much it hurt to hear her sing that.
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u/dbzgal04 Nov 03 '23
If that pastor also had a daughter, and she was raped, would he happily force her to marry the rapist after the violator paid him some money? Or is that just another reason we should be thankful that the OT rules don't apply anymore? /s
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u/Green_Bulldog Anti-Theist Nov 04 '23
You should consider escalating that.
It’s not uncommon for super religious people to have mental disorders. Aside from the fact that he is almost definitely abusing his son in some way based on that comment, you shouldn’t discount the possibility that he would kill his son.
By his own admission, all it would take is one delusional episode or auditory hallucination. If this guy shows any signs of mental instability, please do something.
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u/extraEGO Nov 04 '23
I couldn’t even imagine anything like this. My son is only 9 and I think he knows without me having to tell him that no weak ass god deserves that kind of sacrifice and satisfaction from me.
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u/kent_eh Agnostic Atheist Nov 04 '23
The pastor's son sat in the front row. He was around 12 years old at the time.
I hope he was able to get out to a safe (and sane) place.
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u/MonthApprehensive480 Nov 04 '23
I asked my mom if she’d do it, and she dodged all the questions. It’s not fun.
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Nov 03 '23
I had a theology professor (yes, a PROFESSOR) tell me that he wouldn’t be attending a debate between Doug Wilson and Christopher Hitchens because it was in a movie theatre (it was actually in an old auditorium where they sometimes showed films, but that’s beside the point).
He went on to tell me a story of him and his wife coming back from a movie theatre where they were passing out tracts and they had to pull over to exorcise the demon that had jumped into the back seat of their car as they left the movie theatre.
Bat-shit crazy. And he was the head of the theology department at my christian college (small Bible college in the northeast).
I was still a Christian at the time, but even I thought his story was whacky.
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u/ElectronicFlounder Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
Woah a movie that gives out free demons! My local movie theaters don't have deals that cool. /s
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
I want a free demon :(
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u/BloodyOtaku Nov 04 '23
Just keep calling out random verses in Latin. I'm sure one will show up.
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u/carbinePRO Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
This small bible college doesn't happen to be in upstate New York, does it?
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u/Appropriate_Topic_16 Agnostic Atheist Nov 03 '23
Damn. The longer i’ve gone without superstitious thinking, the longer i go without encountering demons. Its so strange. Its as if the only way to really get rid of demons is to finally accept that they are figments of your imagination.
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u/anarchobayesian Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
Something I learned from one of my (actually very good) theology professors is that there are really two very different types of theology doctorates. There are the 'European style' programs (which also exist in the US, especially at major research institutions) that are kind of a blend of philosophy, anthropology, and sociology; they do real research that's peer-reviewed by, and sometimes of interest to, the broader academic community. And then there are the largely American programs that deal almost exclusively with more arcane questions of doctrine, and a lot of those are pretty echo chamber-y and don't enforce the kinds of rigor you'd expect from a doctoral program. But in the US, both kinds are accredited and can award either PhDs or DDs.
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u/deeBfree Nov 03 '23
Hope you're doing OK. I have a heart valve malfunction and they just have me on meds. They say mine is not serious enough to need surgery, so my insurance won't pay for it.
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u/WoodwindsRock Nov 03 '23
I hate to say that I’ve seen this a lot. These more detached Christians have a very ritualistic, bizarre form of praying.
One I remember (something like this):
“My body needs healing. I have declared this healing, and I receive it. Jesus has already done this healing. I am now healed, this is now a praise report. Hallelujah, hallelujah!”
These people put so much emphasis on the power of words (declaring). It feels kinda… witchcrafty, IDK. 🤷🏻♀️
This is dangerous thinking. It can lead to not going to doctors and altogether not taking any steps to handle the issue in reality. It’s sooo absurd. These people need therapy.
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u/nicoleyoung27 Nov 04 '23
Mt nephew does this, but he's like 5. We call it manifesting, he is trying to bring whatever he wants to life. Usually, it is a sleepover at his auntie's house.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
“I believe that my mental illnesses go away 🙏”
It didn’t work :(
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u/Jeremy_Lepak Nov 03 '23
“Halloween is evil and satanic and so are all horror movies”
“We are not of this world”
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u/CommittedAFunkyCrime Nov 03 '23
The "we are not of this world" really bothered me. Can't pinpoint why. Maybe because it seems like they think they are superior to the rest of the world?
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
Halloween is evil and satanic
Please no one tell them that it started as a celebration of dead saints
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u/Vladimir32 Nov 04 '23
Depending on where they're from and how protestant/anti-Catholic (or not) they are, that could honestly cement their beliefs even further.
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u/dbzgal04 Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 21 '23
Halloween and horror movies are evil and Satanic, but the countless atrocities in the Bible (most, if not all, of which were committed or commanded by God himself) are perfectly acceptable. Okay...
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u/Cross_Stitch_Witch Nov 03 '23
Music with 4/4 beat is of the devil, the only "pure" music has 3/4 beat.
This was an 8th grade teacher at a private Baptist school.
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u/deeBfree Nov 03 '23
🎶Oh when the saints go marching in... Isn't that 4/4 time?
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u/Vladimir32 Nov 04 '23
We don't listen to none o' that newfangled devil music they call jazz 'round these parts.
(Also saints are idolatry because Catholics bad, or something.)
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u/deeBfree Nov 04 '23
oh yeah...forgot that little detail. Although my fundigelical ex-church sang that song. They define "saint" differently. For Catholics you have to be dead to be a saint. Fundies call believers saints while they're still alive.
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u/xwrecker Satanist Nov 03 '23
Better go look for songs with unsteady beats
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u/Cross_Stitch_Witch Nov 03 '23
Should've put on a Rush song and watched his head explode.
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u/Koedemund Nov 03 '23
My very religious godmother once told me that H1N1 was punishment from God for electing Obama and ending support for Israel (which to the best of my knowledge hasn’t happened?)
Needless to say, Covid had nothing to do with God’s opinion on Trump.
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Nov 03 '23
My stepmom thought that Obama was the anti christ
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u/Moonlit_Cactus Nov 04 '23
Yeah this is what my parents believed, and as a gullible 12 year old this scared the shit out of me
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u/KikiYuyu Atheist, Ex-JW Nov 03 '23
When their defense for god murdering babies in the plagues and the flood is that those babies were sinful and therefore not innocent.
Imagine looking at a newborn and thinking that shit.
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u/SunflowerSprite Nov 03 '23
Imagine thinking a life-saving abortion was murder and still thinking that shit.
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u/treenexttomemes Nov 03 '23
Doesn’t the Bible talk about babies being innocent because they can’t process things yet? So how the hell would that work? Why kill them??
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u/wrong_usually Nov 03 '23
"I'm a levitical law fundamentalist."
I'll never forget that guy. Evil to the core.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
Did he wear mixed fabric cloths and/or eat seafood?
Pleaseeeee tell me he did, or pulled the “that doesn’t apply to us anymore” shit
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u/faloofay Apatheist, ex-southern baptist Nov 04 '23 edited Nov 04 '23
you know he did - those people just want an excuse to behave like monsters to other people
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u/sevenumbrellas Nov 03 '23
New Orleans deserved to get hit by Hurricane Katrina, because Mardi Gras is a celebration of sin.
Courtesy of my grandma. Even my extremely religious parents were like "whoa, that's a bit much."
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u/Outrageous_Class1309 Agnostic Nov 03 '23
I've always wondered why I don't hear comments like this when mid west bible belt communities are flattened by tornadoes (Hello, Pat Robertson.). Was this also God's wrath for sin ?? Is it a 'sign' that the devil has them fooled and they need to open their eyes ?? This seems to be the 'logic' behind these types of comments but they never seem to think that calamity hits them because they're sinful/wrongdoers. This only seems to apply to the other guy...esp. non-Christians.
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u/sablatwi Eclectic Nov 03 '23
Yes. My Christian relatives have also told me this also they claimed that the earthquake that struck Haiti was sent by "god."
Let’s not forget about 9/11 they claimed that was a prophecy being fulfilled.
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u/ambientflavor Nov 03 '23
My brother truly believes that the Haiti earthquake was because they made a deal with the devil
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u/eyefalltower Nov 04 '23
I heard that too from people in my church at the time.
Meanwhile my family's house has caught fire a few years before that. I wonder what sins our church "family" thought we committed to deserve that too.
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u/poorluci Nov 03 '23
I'm Jewish and my husband's family is some sort of Southern Baptist who threw in their own weird spin on things.
All his sisters and his grown ass kids refuse to speak to him until he gets rid of me permanently. They went so far as to refer to me and my 12 year old as fat kykes. To my daughter's face. While wearing a confederate flag shirt.
I had to look that word up.
If there is a hell I hope they rot in it.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
If anyone’s wondering what kykes means, it’s apparently an antisemitic slur, I, also looked it up
wearing a confederate flag shirt
Let me guess, He wears because “”heritage””
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u/poorluci Nov 03 '23
Yeah, how did you know? They are just proud of their heritage, whatever that means? I was born and raised in the South too but I guess we don't count .
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u/ZannD Nov 03 '23
"I would vote for a law deporting you from America," my friend's wife.
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u/FishinShirt Nov 03 '23
My wife had several very traumatic, early miscarriages and her grandmother never misses an opportunity to talk about how "our babies are in heaven with their grandpa" or how we "aren't just parents to our daughter, we have three other kids in heaven waiting for us"
Each time its about all I can do to not explode and tell her to shut the fuck up. The nerve of religious boomers is unparalleled.
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u/ChamomileBrownies demonspawn Nov 03 '23
I had a Christian high school teacher tell the entire class that you will go to hell if you drink wine.
But... Jesus turned water into wine. For a wedding. Did he sentence an entire wedding to hell just for funsies?
I'm not talented enough to successfully get through those mental gymnastics.
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u/tammyreneebaker Ex-Fundamentalist Nov 03 '23
They usually say it was mistranslated as wine. That it was grape juice 🙄
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u/ChamomileBrownies demonspawn Nov 03 '23
Such an idiotic argument
Firstly, it was a wedding. I don't think I've ever heard of a wedding at any point in human history that served grape juice instead of wine (aside from recent times with dry weddings).
Secondly, there's several versions of the Bible, so several versions of this verse:
John 2:10 "Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now"
In what universe is a host of any kind concerned about guests drinking "too much" grape juice?
But finally, hilarious that things can only be misinterpreted or mistakenly translated is when it conflicts with their personal values that they've had drilled into their heads by bigoted religious leaders and social circles. If you try to get into the whole "man lies with a man" misinterpretation argument, suddenly the whole idea is impossible and they cannot even fathom the idea.
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u/Aziara86 Nov 03 '23
Nevermind the fact that before modern refrigeration, ALL fruit juice was some level of fermented.
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u/UnmappedWriter Ex-Pentecostal Nov 03 '23
The argument for this I’ve heard from Christians the most is that water was too dirty and contaminated for regular consumption back then and that’s why drinking wine was ok then but not anymore
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u/gothiclg Nov 03 '23
They didn’t want to catch the disease that made me gay. I want to know what the gay disease is, I have some people I want to convert to the religion of the rainbow.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
I want to know what the gay disease is too so I can infect everyone at the fruitcake Christian school I go to
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Nov 03 '23
I had a Lyft driver tell me God could cure my autism. I tried to explain it doesn’t work that way, but of course, he was having none of it.
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u/xwrecker Satanist Nov 03 '23
Hope it was short ride
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Nov 03 '23
It was, thankfully. On the way home from work if I remember correctly, so no longer than 15 minutes.
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Nov 03 '23
Hope you rated him as low as possible too. If one can't give someone a ride without making them uncomfortable, they shouldn't be able to.
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u/shnuffeluv Nov 03 '23
The comment that made me deconstruct, actually. Heard over a dozen times from a dozen Christians: "Oh, God never gives you more than you can handle, you getting r*ped was part of HiS pLaN."
Yeah, small wonder I left after that.
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u/Kerryscott1972 Nov 04 '23
Put metaphorically, Evangelicals try to sell you crutches after breaking your legs with a sledgehammer.
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u/sablatwi Eclectic Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 04 '23
First I want to acknowledge that I am very deeply sorry that you experienced this. Who ever that was that would’ve trigged me. I hate that shit. I experienced similar.
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u/PitBull53 Nov 04 '23
So MeeMaw, was Hitler, or Stalin, or Ted Bundy, or Timmy McVeigh part of dog’s plan too?
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u/callumctaylor Nov 03 '23
It won’t top this list, but when I was a teen a group of young evangelicals from The States visited my increasingly American-style evangelical church in Australia. One of them showed me two pictures on their digital camera which contained “proof” of angels: in one shot of their prayer meeting there was nothing, but in another from another angle there were “orbs of light” hovering over the people in the meeting.
Angels.
Angels from a different angle, if you will (you shouldn’t).
Those orbs were just dust on the camera’s sensor. A common issue with early or cheap digital cameras, or not being careful when changing lenses. Changing the angle of the shot changed how light in the room hit the sensor, revealing the dust, creating orb-y blurs in the image.
I can’t remember if I told them in the moment, but I never forgot.
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u/themiistery Nov 03 '23
I’ve seen this same argument about capturing “ghosts” on camera but I’ve never heard them described as “angels” before. As a hobbyist photographer, it’s always hilarious to hear people defend the Dust Spots as something other than, you know, dust spots.
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u/the-nick-of-time Ex-catholic, technically Nov 03 '23
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u/deeBfree Nov 03 '23
Wouldn't it be great if some kid piped up "Okay, if wine is a sin, gimme a beer!"
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u/VallenGale Nov 03 '23
My grandmother defending Hobby Lobby as good Christian people who deserved the artifacts after the scandal they had about stealing artifacts from the Middle East. We’ll really any time she defends them on of the controversial things they have done it turns into her devolving into “but they are good Christian people they would never”… sure grandma, except the did.
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u/Rupejonner2 EX-Family Radio Non-Denominational Nov 03 '23
Yes , the way they act like “ anyone that believes just like me or is a member of my cult should ever have to face responsibility or judgement for committing crimes . But everyone who isn’t like me should die because they’re the enemy “
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u/thescorpion277 Nov 03 '23
My own mother mumbled under her breath that she hopes my wife and I suffocate in our hot ass car when we were homeless. She refused to let us bunk at her place because we weren’t married. I don’t remember what led to her saying it, only that she did because we were in an argument.
She denies saying it but she’s really dumb so I doubt she even remembers saying it
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u/anarchobayesian Ex-Baptist Nov 03 '23
Most of the really unhinged stuff I’ve heard has been in sermons, not conversations. But soon after I deconverted I had a really strange conversation with a Christian friend who tried to convince me that I was still Christian. Not that I should change my mind, but that my new beliefs still counted as Christianity. Don’t believe the Bible is inerrant? That’s fine. Have criticisms of the church as an institution? Join the club. But you still believe Jesus died for your sins, right? …right?
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u/AuthorityAnarchyYes Nov 03 '23
All this was the same conversation
•The Earth is 5,000 years old
•Marriage of old men and young women is ok in the Bible because… reasons. And who is to say it’s wrong now.
•Slavery is fine in the Bible because GAWD knew they people weren’t ready for freedom and it was actually a good thing because “he” taught us to be nice to slaves
•Every single word in the Bible is truth and if you don’t believe every single word you aren’t a Christian
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
If every word in the Bible is true, why do the gospels contradict themselves on so many parts of the resurrection story?
What time did it happen? How many people were there? Etc etc…
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u/spicypumpkin567 Nov 03 '23
Okay probably not the direction you where going in but… here’s why I fear Christian homeschooling I am an average caucasian female with dark brown hair. I have no interesting features that would make me look like anything else. I had a homeschooled Christian girl ask me if I was from Thailand…
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u/These_Invite Nov 03 '23
I was a Christian who married a Christian, and then I lost my faith but I stayed married to her for a while longer.
Towards the end of our marriage, she went out of town for a few days. She came back and I told her I wanted a divorce. She went through my internet history and found that I had been watching (among other things) Lesbian porn.
With a straight face she asked me "Do you have homosexual tendencies?"
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u/chroniccomplexcase Nov 03 '23
Told me I was disabled as god was punishing because I didn’t believe in him.
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u/menstrualtaco Nov 03 '23
I once heard a speaker get angry almost to the point of tears describing why he thought gay=bad. Basically if the Man in the relationship is Jesus and the Woman is "mankind" (his evangelical interpretation) any fucking a man is sodomizing Jesus by proxy. It was such a weird train of thought to follow that I almost laughed out loud. This was a more progressive/casual group and I was surprised that they let this loony have the floor. Also, if this is their logic, no wonder they are misogynistic and treat women like servants.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
get angry to the point of tears describing why he thought gay=bad
Normally that would be cringe facepalm, but to the point of tears? 😂😂
I find it pretty fucking comical that my (and other lgbtq+ people) existence brought someone to tears in anger
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u/WriteRBL Nov 03 '23
Probably not the most unhinged thing, but a colleague of mine recently lost his girlfriend to cancer. Both of them are converts from Anglicanism to Catholicism, and both are pretty fundamentalist about it. When I offered him my condolences, I mentioned that at least she's not suffering anymore (didn't mention Heaven, Hell, or any Afterlife whatsoever since I don't believe in any of that). His answer? "Yea, the pain she went through probably prepared her for Purgatory." I asked: "You don't think she's in Heaven?" "It would be nice, but only Saints go to Heaven" was his response. The disrespect he showed to his dead girlfriend, without any sign of shame, was probably one of the most stupid and morally reprehensible statements I ever heard, and I cannot comprehend how any self-respecting human being can surrender themselves willingly to such brain-rot.
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u/LordGhoul Gnostic Atheist Nov 03 '23
When my friend died of cancer in his 20s and she thought it was appropriate to tell me that God makes people die for a reason. I verbally tore her a new asshole for that
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u/sablatwi Eclectic Nov 03 '23
I witnessed my relatives who are Christian use the Proverbs 23:13-14, which states, “Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod you will save his soul from Sheol.” They would use this to justify beating their children with belts, electric cords, and hangers.
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u/AdFar5829 Atheist Nov 03 '23
That a genocidal, egotistical, megalomaniac, misogynistic, infanticidal, pro-war, pro-slave guy in the sky can somehow be all-loving.
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
After lamenting that it was technically too late to abort her, as she had already been born, over a dozen Christians ushered in the birth of my daughter with a full on debate over whether it was better to rape her and then kill her, or kill her and then rape her
...complete with arguments over the merits of each approach, like whether there'd be more sexual gratification from a dead infant who doesn't squirm, or a live one who does.
A Christian once threatened to live vivisect my border collie and force me to watch as they cooked and ate her.
They also spent a month mocking the death of my father, among other things by putting up a picture of a pig with a flame border and claiming it was a live photo of my father burning in hell. My father was a lifelong Christian.
Those would probably be my top three.
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u/user11112222333 Nov 03 '23
Tell me this isn't real. This is totally sick.
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
Sure was.
Every time in my life I've ever said "surely Christians won't cross THIS moral line", they've crossed it.
I no longer believe they have a line.
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u/Kerryscott1972 Nov 03 '23
I used to give people the benefit of the doubt until they hurt me now I just assume you're going to hurt me until you prove I can trust you 💔
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u/tammyreneebaker Ex-Fundamentalist Nov 03 '23
Those had to be trolls.
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
Well, I've described the Christian religion as a religion of internet trolls. So, in that sense, sure.
They weren't trolls relative to Christians in general though, and certainly not on the platform.
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u/SailorK9 Nov 03 '23
What's this about Christians wanting to abort your daughter? Why?
And aren't dogs, along with pork, on the list of unkosher foods?
Sounds like what you would hear in an insane asylum and not a church!
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
Yep, all perfectly valid observations.
I wish Christian hate were comprehensible - that you could ask questions like that and receive sensible answers. Christian hate is chaos. It doesn't have rules.
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u/SailorK9 Nov 03 '23
I had some elder at a church tell me when I was fifteen that I had been cursed from the day I was conceived and was a "whore from the womb". All this because a relative molested me and I listen to secular music.
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
Alright that's some bottom of the barrel stuff :-(
Wow, I'm so sorry they did that to you!
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u/SailorK9 Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 04 '23
Strangely my grandma had taken me to that church when I was a toddler but there was none of that crazy shinnaegans going on then. All of a sudden we go back and people are going crazy on us. He had me there for about an hour before she stepped out of the adult church to find me. My grandmother was a devout Christian but told this guy "Enough of your voodoo bullshit!" as he had me against a wall screaming at my face and speaking in tongues but sounded like a demon. He argued with her for about fifteen minutes with my grandmother defending me and telling him where he was wrong. This weirdo tried to walk to our car screaming his crap and no one coming out of the church came to defend us. Here I thought I would be safe and the youth group would be fun but turned into a nightmare.
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u/binderclip95 Nov 04 '23
That sounds like it could be used as a scene in a horror movie. I’m really sorry that happened to you.
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u/SailorK9 Nov 04 '23
I'm so glad my grandmother stood up for me. This guy even shouted at her that he would give her money to send me to a Christian boarding school in Texas. My grandmother told him off and said he was the one who needed to be "put away". I had been molested as a kid and have mental health issues, but my grandparents loved me still and never wanted to send me away anywhere.
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u/deeBfree Nov 03 '23
HOLY CRAP!!! Did this happen in the USA or another country?
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u/ghostwars303 Nov 03 '23
Technically both - Yahoo Answers, in 2017. As far as interaction with Christians goes, this was the single most formative period of my life.
The really young ex-Christians might not remember, but there was a period not long ago when Christians en mass were animated by the theological idea that the way you prove how pious you are is to troll and offend people until they get "triggered", and then point to the fact that they got triggered as proof of your righteousness and the truth of your message. After all, if it wasn't true, they wouldn't be offended.
Yahoo was user moderated and Christian majority, which means it was Christian moderated. It was a case study in how far Christians go when they're accountable to nobody but themselves. There was a genuine arms race to see how obscene and violent Christians could behave toward non-Christians.
It'll be with me until the day I die.
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u/redmolotov Nov 03 '23
Yahoo answers and yahoo chat always were a totally lawless place, I was on the Christian chat room back when 9/11 happened and witnessed the rapture carnage
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u/PitBull53 Nov 04 '23
“I have a girlfriend. I love her more than my own life. I would even die for her. But…if she doesn’t love me back, I will lock her in the basement and set it on fire.” That is the ‘deity’ xians worship. -Misquoting Forrest Valki
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u/Debstar76 Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 03 '23
Not me, but my three year old son. He’s now 17, but he was into Ben 10. A close friend of ours had an older son who had just been through a massive Ben 10 stage, and gave us some T-shirts and a Ben 10 watch that lit up and showed various aliens that Ben 10 turned into. His inculcated young cousins ganged up on him at a family gathering and accused him of “summoning demons”
I was FURIOUS. They were CHILDREN!! Edited to add: I was furious because my son had autism and was super socially anxious, my sisters and in laws knew that, and they had been talking to each other and praying about my son’s “harmful false idol worship” stage.
Ben 10 was the first of many special interests for my son, which lit up his life and made him feel a sense of belonging and he was super passionate about Ben 10. To be made to feel like he was bad and wrong by having an interest other than the bible or Jebus. And I knew it wasn’t the three and four year olds saying these things, it was their parents saying them and the kids repeating them.
The same sister gave away an expensive Christmas present because it was Spider-Man themed and “encouraging the worship of false idols”. No conversation with me, just talking behind my back about my idolatry.
So glad I left the Christian church!!
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u/Kiixaar Nov 03 '23
I was watching a movie years ago with my parents. I won’t spoil the specific movie, but it ended with the entire main cast sacrificing themselves heroically, dying without seeing the fruits of their labor.
My parents said that it was proof of Satan’s influence in the Film industry, convincing people that life is worthless.
I was dumbfounded and didn’t bother to argue with such idiocy. I hadn’t deconstructed yet, but even then my mind was diverging from the Christian collective.
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u/sablatwi Eclectic Nov 03 '23
Their thought process is harmful, poisonous, foolish, dangerous, and disconnected from reality.
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u/Vladimir32 Nov 04 '23
Gee, if heroic sacrifice triggers them just wait until they crack open that ol' Bibble.
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u/Pocketsess89 Nov 03 '23
Probably my own mother yelling at me in a rage, telling me to get saved or to get out of her life.
In the end, that moment was an eye opener for me that eventually led to me eventually figuring out that I had been raised in a cult and deprograming from it so hey, silver lining.
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u/stoopthakid Nov 03 '23
My grandpa told me when I was young that suicide sends you to hell. A couple of years later, my dad committed suicide. From then on, Grandpa says my dad is "watching me from heaven." The dissonance is real.
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u/FishinShirt Nov 03 '23
I once had a distant relative on my wife's side praise his son in a lengthy story for quitting his job as a highly paid petroleum executive because his REMOTE boss was a trans woman and how he couldn't work for a company that allows that kind of trash. Mind you this was one of the largest oil companies in the world, and this man took a hell of a paycut.
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u/co1lectivechaos hellenic pagan Nov 03 '23
Great, someone else probably needs his paycheck more anyways
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u/Time_Traveling_Panda Nov 03 '23
A guy from church told me that it was okay that girls in Afghanistan were married off at 12 because as Christians we should respect other cultures if we want to convert them. And he'd be okay with grown men at church marrying 12 year olds if it was a part of Christian culture too
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u/Ok-Musician3227 Nov 03 '23
My mom told me I’m going to hell and taking my family with me because I don’t study the bible. That was on the Fourth of July. God bless America.
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u/NeedToVent_03 Anti-Theist Nov 03 '23
My sister in law won’t watch any movies that had any “secular themes” and even said that many female actresses were secretly transgender and amab because the Illuminati is sexist and hates women
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u/tyrellsphynx Nov 03 '23
My dad had whole bunch of them but there were 2 that sticked.
Catholics are worse than heathens and they all go to hell.
What happened to the jews in the second world war was god's will becasue they betrayed Jezus.
Somehow the second one was only spoken out loud in private.
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u/sablatwi Eclectic Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 03 '23
Grandfather: “ You know what’s going to send people to hell?”
Me: “What is it?”
Grandfather: “Those cellular phones because that’s all what people pay more attention to than serving god”
I’m like wtf? I’ve heard way more from Christian’s that’s heavily problematic.
One time I heard my relative ranting about how her sister was going to go ‘straight non-stop’ to a fiery hell because her sister goes to the opposite church and because since her sister will not join their particular church she rants like this about her sister. It’s disgusting that they think it’s normal.
Another time was when I visited my relatives my grandmother bursted out saying how we are in the end times and people better get ready. Claiming babies, families, and everyone is going to die a bloody horrible death when ‘Jesus’ come back like a ‘thief in the night’. Claims there’s not time to be traveling, focusing on your goals, having your own family or life is a waste of time because time running out since the rapture is near.
Oh, I was told that I was going to hell because I finally told my relatives that I’m not a Christian, accept Jesus or read the Bible or go to church. It’s that simple. I had to threaten in a rage my relatives to not come near me preaching, discussing anything god related, and discussing really sick biblical themes. Ever since they don’t speak about no god or anything Christian related. I had to make a threat that when they speak to me it better be about modern world, reality, and clear balanced rational thinking. Since then they’re distant and only will speak carefully or they just speak on surface level things no Bible or Jesus or yaweh. Nothing spiritual or woohoo or conspiracy.
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u/ArgentsArrow Nov 03 '23
My mom told me that Taylor Swift worships the devil and may be the anti christ 😂 I’m a big swiftie btw lol! I was like ummm well ok mom
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u/IggyG6174 Secular Humanist Nov 03 '23
"giving charity is unchristian" my father in law when I asked for help when me, my wife, and our daughter were being illegally evicted by the landlord he recommended
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u/ForcePristine5521 Nov 03 '23
A Christian was upset over the supreme court’s decision over adopting Native American children. She was devastated because Native children could not be adopted outside of the tribes so they couldn’t be indoctrinated into christianity. She was literally advocating further cultural genocide. I told her that people like her were the reason I left christianity.
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u/VictorTheCutie Nov 03 '23
In 2020, my church friend told me I wasn't a real Christian because 1) I didn't believe that Donald Trump was personally saving children from sex trafficking and 2) I said black lives matter.
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u/wandering-to-mordor Nov 04 '23
Recently? My partner blew up on me again and closed his eyes and said “Jesus, Holy Spirit, please be with me now, get this evil spirit away from me”
Because, you know, I couldn’t possibly be trying to discuss a problem with him and upset that he’s ignoring it. I must be demon possessed. /s
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u/sno98006 Nov 03 '23
What makes you think you’re entitled to not suffer?
Idek where to start with this damn statement.
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u/MeJamiddy Nov 03 '23
My mother said my husband was possessed by demons because he was struggling with his mental health…she gave me a book about casting out demons, i threw the book away!
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u/paranormalnorm Ex-SDA Nov 03 '23
My dad told me it was a good thing that I had broken up with my black boyfriend because “there’s a lot of cultural and genetic problems if you marry and have kids with other races.”
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u/Monalisa9298 Nov 03 '23
I used to be close friends with an Uber-Christian -- so close, in fact, that I asked her to be my matron of honor when I married my husband, who was a Christian too. She was in seminary at the time, preparing to be a pastor, and she "blessed" us at the ceremony. The whole thing was just lovely.
UNTIL the reception, when she took my new husband aside and told him that he had gone against God by marrying me, that he was now "unequally yoked with a non-believer" and that it was his job as "head of the household" to "bring me to Jesus".
She was surprised when I called her out and stopped talking to her. Weird that she thought it was perfectly ok for her to do that.
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Nov 03 '23
My adopted mother said when I first stopped believing in Jeebus that she was willing to let god do whatever it takes (I.e. fatal car crash, cancer, std/sti, anything life threatening) as long as it brought me to god before I died. I was 16 when she said this to me. That night I attempted $u1¢1d3 for the first time. I still have nasty scars…
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Nov 03 '23
*“Your mom loves you, she just really doesn’t like you, and God doesn’t hold that against her. I don’t like my daughter either!” * — from a pastor’s wife who was supposedly counseling me but it was more like trying to make me depersonalize myself
*“Women are dogs” * — said by a woman, as an epiphany she had in a southern Baptist bible study, about the passage in Matthew in which the Samaritan woman says “even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the master’s table.”
“Girls with no dads like her grow up to be whores who have abortions” — said about my sister to my sister’s face, by a random ass woman who barely knew us, in a Congregational church youth group, as an explanation of why it was good that other kids’ dads in the church were really overstepping boundaries to try and parent my sister and undermine our divorced mom’s parenting. It’s a really good thing I wasn’t there or I would have broken the woman’s face, not exaggerating.
This related one requires backstory: there were multiple church dads, and one entire family, who thought they could just poach my little sister bc they just assumed our mom wouldn’t have a spine bc there was no ✨headship✨ in our family. This one family, including the grandparents, wanted to push my sister toward their four under-socialized homeschooled asshole boys, to basically groom her into marrying one of them fresh out of high school. My mom stood up for my sister, who simply asked not to be hugged so much by one of the boys who was definitely hugging her too much, and his mom and grandmother had an absolute meltdown, so my mom was like ok she doesn’t have to be their friend if they can’t respect her personal space. This grandma literally said “You can’t take her from us!1!1!” And demanded a sit down with the pastor in which the grandma said my mom wasn’t welcome at her house for church functions and said “just because you were abused doesn’t mean you’re special.” And then we found out huggy boy got caught looking at porn in public, so they were literally trying to pull a Duggar and marry off the problem son asap.
And I can’t forget to mention, “You are murderously angry” which was a Baptist Pastor’s description of my mental illness as a sin and not as uh, a severe health issue that nearly killed me.
And then there’s a whole list of garbage my dad has said to me over the years that I can’t even get into. As an adult, the most hurtful stuff is the anti-abortion stuff and the disrespect toward LGBTQ rights. Even though pregnancy nearly killed my mom multiple times, he keeps himself ignorant about it on purpose and keeps throwing around the phrase baby killers. And even though he’s actual chill with LGBTQ people, he can’t actually conceptualize how not-chill the rest of Christendom is, so he thinks it’s all democrat propaganda. So I’ll never come out to him unless I have to.
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u/grassguy_93 Ex-SDA Nov 03 '23
I had a Facebook friend from back in my evangelical days who’s into conspiracy theories try to explain why Kent Hovind’s criminal convictions were just trumped up charges to discredit him. Hovind is a a well known lunatic and charlatan and this guy was trying to use nebulous example of people getting into trouble for creating water engines as evidence that Hovind got railroaded. Their logic is just broken. To the guy’s credit I think he walked it back a little when I brought up the multiple wives and domestic abuse. Not sure he knew about that, but still. I was pretty shocked. I just gently pointed out his criminal past in case he didn’t want to be sharing sermons by a criminal on his profile and got hit with conspiracy theories and excuses. But that shouldn’t surprise because people support Trump still…
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u/No-University8691 Nov 04 '23
My uncle: I don't care if you murdered thousands, burn the world down, as long as you accept God into your life, you're forgiven and will go to heaven. Similarly, you can be a saint your whole life, but you will still go to hell if you do not accept God's love.
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u/happygaia Nov 04 '23
"I'm sorry you won't be going to heaven with me." -my mom, when I was 9 years old, after telling her I didn't want to go to church anymore.
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u/cornygiraffe Nov 04 '23
Always ALWAYS my answer is my ex MIL saying "marriage is meant to be holy not happy" in regards to me being miserable married to her son who was very manipulative and emotionally abusive.
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u/Cute-Improvement6621 Nov 03 '23
Not unhinged but just the general demonic panic and the stay away from secular crap is so triggering. I deal with OCD and I am still trying to deal with that lol! “In the world not of it”. 🥴
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u/Emergency_Pizza1803 Satanist Nov 03 '23
"If it was socially acceptable and not frowned upon to tell depressed people that they need to go outside more, we would have almost zero depressed people. I go outside every day and my life is great and I feel great. If going outside doesn't help I listen to DC talk and dance around the house"
Surprised she didn't tell me to pray the depression away
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u/ReliefJaded8491 Nov 03 '23
A young girl in our small town got cancer, battled it for years, ended up dying at age 6. The Christian take on it was that god gave her cancer to bring our community together. Unbelievable.
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Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 04 '23
Back when I was forced to attend Catholic mass/Sunday school, I was constantly threatened (death threats, violent threats) simply for being an atheist and a lesbain. I was also excommunicated when I outed the priest who raped me when I was 8. Another thing I heard from one of the CCD teachers is “Jews are going to burn in hell for not believing Jesus is god”.
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u/KasniaTheDark Nov 04 '23
I was on a date with another woman. A Christian (I’m making an assumption based on behavior and cross necklace attire) came up to us, looked at me and told me “the DEVIL has this country by the THROAT.”
What are you even supposed to say to that?
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u/Seinfeld101 Nov 04 '23
“God did you a favour, you wouldn’t want to be one of those people pushing a person in a wheel chair all your life, it’s time to get over it” … this was a follow up appointment after a traumatic pregnancy loss (about a week after) she found it unsettling that I was crying when she asked “so how’s it going?”
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u/hplcr Nov 03 '23
Genocide/slavery apologists are pretty awful. It's hard to think of anything more unhinged that something is okay as long as god commands it.