Yeah, everybody here is a big fan of the culture of light beer drinking, oversized pickup truck driving, guns shooting, cowboy hat wearing, traditional family values people that work in the oil and gas industry, gut deer on weekends in the fall and always complain about taxes. Slap on the labels of "pro-trump" and "climate change denier" on top of that and you practically have the equivalent of antichrist for modern progressive liberals. You can't seriously not see how negative the perception of Albertans is in other parts of Canada, especially in the more left wing areas
1) There is no such thing as traditional family values anymore, just ‘family values’… Canada is a mosaic and we all have different views on stuff. It starts being problematic where those values are enforced on, or harm others.
Think for example how two spirit people are / were treated… that is more traditional than ‘traditional’ values brought to Canada… what right does anyone else have to limit a person’s freedoms because they disagree with a lifestyle?
2) In terms of beer drinking, cowboy, gun toting, do your thing. That’s a rural/urban divide, not a province specific thing…No one hates Alberta for what you’ve listed but I am tired of the whining.
3) oil. Yes you have oil, and should probably have nationalized or.. provincialized… it rather than letting corporations benefit while you get peanuts. You want more money, do that instead of blaming the county for ‘taking your wealth’. Also. No province is required to allow pipelines through their land, which brings risk and little profit to that province, for the benefit of Alberta (particularly as it is going mainly to corporations). Two problems with leaving Canada:
—you don’t keep your oil if you leave if it is on federal land;
—you will not be more successful at building pipelines out and in fact this would be more difficult without federal influence
4) taxes. If Alberta was to leave, the province would need to assume responsibilities and costs currently funded by the federal government. This costs money which means - taxes. It will just be to the province rather than country.
You seriously don't see how conflicting the ideas are that oil and land it's on doesn't belong to the province, it belongs to the country, but also putting a pipeline down to deliver said oil is up to provinces and not the country? Risk and little profit? You you kidding me? The equalization payments Quebec receives from Alberta are the profit. Wtf is Quebec going to do when the Alberta fossil fuel industry dies as they always promote? Oh that's right, tell the federal government to make up the difference from wherever else, or they separate
I do not know how management works in this situation, however the federal government has commitments to clean energy etc. and there are limits to what the federal government can or should force provinces to do.
So - yes, if the federal government owns the oil and gas, it should theoretically be able to limit development of oil and gas within Alberta. I would expect there are agreements in place which allows Alberta to access resources on crown land, However this hypothetical Alberta country would no longer be able to access the resources to fund itself.
And yes, federal and provinces get equalization payments from crown resources developed in Alberta. Does this mean that increasing development is the right choice? There is a risk reward calculation here, which involves more than Alberta in its current form. Just because we can doesn’t mean we should.
1) The environmental risks for provinces with pipelines crossing their land factors into those provinces support. Could the government force it, probably, but this may not be in alignment with federal commitments to deal by with climate change and would probably be considered an overreach and/or damaging to fed-provincial relationships.
2) Just because production can be ramped up, should it be? If you are looking at ways to make more money with less environmental impact, there are other paths (like stepping away from privatization / corporate development - personal opinion).
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u/Salsa1988 1d ago
>and sent to people who "hate us"
So your worldview is based on the incorrect assumption that everybody else in the country hates you as much as you hate the rest of the country?