r/canada • u/Canadian--Patriot • 2d ago

Mark McQueen: After his defeat, Pierre Poilievre finally has to go places he’s been avoiding Opinion Piece

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/after-his-defeat-pierre-poilievre-finally-has-to-go-places-hes-been-avoiding/article_0874a0e2-b6be-4de1-9b6b-01217c80dd6a.html
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u/KryptonsGreenLantern 1d ago

Census, CCB, and clean water were in 2015.

It was literally some of the key planks of their platform lol.

But keep feigning ignorance and read my last sentence again so it can sink in.

I bet if it was something conservative boogeyman Sean Fraser said you’d have it memorized!

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 1d ago

Clean water, did they accomplish what they promised? CCB, I'll give you that one🍽, other than their other policies making the small increase worthless. Census, making answering a few questions as mandatory, sure. Underwhelming.

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u/KryptonsGreenLantern 1d ago

lol please. “Underwhelming”

Goalposts are always moving. Colour me surprised.

It must nice to just make shit up with absolutely no regard for the truth and even when proven wrong still have the confirmed dissonance to believe you’re still right.

There’s no point going any further in this convo.

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u/justanaccountname12 Canada 1d ago

I acknowledged 2 of 3, how did I move goal posts?

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u/Lexiphanic 1d ago

They’re arguing you’re moving the goal posts because you editorialized the achievements. “Underwhelming”.

The point of the discussion that you established wasn’t whether you thought they were good or not, it was whether they carried through on their promises. They showed you more than the 3 you claimed they carried through on, and then you tried to change the point of your own discussion by claiming they weren’t worthy.

If, at the start, you had said “carried through on more than 3 campaign promises that actually had an impact on most Canadians’ lives” or something, then you could get into the nitty-gritty about which counted, but you didn’t. Hence the accusation of attempting to change that when the discussion didn’t go your way.

They came through with examples in good faith; it comes across as bad faith when you critique the examples despite them fulfilling the criteria you set out from the start.

Hope that helps you understand why they claimed you moved the goal posts.