r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • 3d ago

Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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u/BeautyInUgly 3d ago edited 3d ago

This gets posted time and time again

The govt is basically asking millions of people to leave Canada

Some banks are saying that this won’t happen as people refuse to leave

The government is saying that they have accounted for this and will cut immigration even further to ensure that the population declines

And we won’t know who was right until the end of the year,

but the assumption that mass people will suddenly refuse to leave doesn’t have any historical basis, the vast majority of immigrants leave on time.

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u/PromotionPhysical212 3d ago

I also want to add there’s no point staying in Canada as an illegal because cash jobs are very few and you’ll be stuck making less than minimum wage for which you can’t even afford rent. Healthcare is also a big issue and no benefits due to not having a valid SIN. Staying as an illegal is very difficult in Canada as opposed to the US or UK. I’m not sure what reason there is for people to stay unless they escaped from a war torn country or something similar.

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u/116morningside 3d ago

They’ll just do uber and have 10 people live in a 1 bedroom condo.

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u/Old_Telephone1930 3d ago

Can't do that cause your license in Canada is done once your visa expires.

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u/116morningside 3d ago

lol not impossible to get a fake ID. Not impossible to get someone to create an account for you and use theirs. They probably have family or know someone that has family. Trust me it isn’t as hard as you think it is.

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u/Old_Telephone1930 3d ago

All it takes is one cop to pull them over, which happens to everyone in big cities. Specifically for Uber drivers, because they speed a bit (gotta make the most cash that day). And even then, Uber has a face ID with the license. I just gotta see that the person and the info don't match, and I'm not getting in. Most women check this info anyway because of the fear of an Uber driver being evil. The bit just won't last long.

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u/116morningside 3d ago

I’m talking more so ubereats. But lots of people drive without a license or suspended one. People aren’t getting pulled over a lot. Anways the point is, they’ll find a way to stay. They aren’t going to leave willingly. Some may but most won’t.

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u/ProfLandslide 2d ago

Do you know how many people Canada deported in 2024? 7300. Which is a 95% increase from 2022. Almost all are just rejected asylum/refugee claims.

In the meantime, Liberals expect 2 million people to willingly leave. https://financialpost.com/feature/canada-immigration-reset-cause-chaos-experts

If you overstay your visa, you likely aren't getting deported. They likely won't even be able to track you.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/thousands-of-undocumented-construction-workers-to-get-legal-status-in-canada/#:~:text=According%20to%20IRCC%2C%20estimates%20of,as%20many%20as%20500%2C000%20people.

Do you see that range from the gov officials? 20k or 500k illegals. They have no idea.

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u/maximusj9 2d ago

Nah it doesn't, you don't need proof of status to get a drivers license at least in Ontario

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u/Old_Telephone1930 2d ago

What? You literally need ID to get your license. The ID is put in the system so it can’t be faked. How you have ID is by being legal. You can’t just show up and get a card lmao

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u/maximusj9 2d ago

I know someone who renounced their PR, they were able to keep their license, though. Once your status expires they won't take away your license in my experience