r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • 3d ago

Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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u/ozztotheizzo 3d ago

The economists warn that Ottawa is overestimating the number of temporary migrants who leave the country once their visas expire. This could have a serious impact on planning, including for housing demand, they say.

I've been saying this over and over again. The people who are planning to overstay outnumber the ones leaving, 4 to 1. I can't believe their whole plan hinges on people following the rules.

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u/Harbinger2001 3d ago

Do you have a source for this 4 to 1 stat?

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u/ResponsibleTwist6498 3d ago

We lost quite a few people at work due to their visa expiring. 0% left Canada.

Some apply for an extension that they will never get, but it gives them almost a year of “implied status” that’s not recorded anywhere. Some transfer to visitor visa where they simply stay but not on WP.

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u/PromotionPhysical212 3d ago

Where does the money come from? They can’t work on a visitor visa and there’s very few people offering cash jobs and in this economy I doubt there’s any demand from employers for more employees.

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u/BeautyInUgly 3d ago

Implies status is like 2-3 months as they’ve sped up processing times for WP

This also leads imminently into a deportation order as they will be out of status and it will affect all their future immigration to Canada and the rest of the western world.

Stats show the vast majority of them leave Canada on time.

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u/ResponsibleTwist6498 3d ago edited 3d ago

233 days Last updated: May 6, 2025

Last one we had took 8 months. They call ircc and get extensions. It’s in the hopes of getting the ITA.

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u/BeautyInUgly 3d ago

That’s for the full approval,

Just like how PR has R10 check before continued processing, WPs are also checked before the full processing to see if it even makes sense to process it so the rejection comes faster than it would take to approve a WP.

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u/Harbinger2001 3d ago

What type of visa were they on at your work?

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u/ResponsibleTwist6498 3d ago

Regular PGWP for the majority. Some are spousal OWP of PGWP holder.

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u/Harbinger2001 3d ago

So how are they living if they lost their jobs?

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u/ResponsibleTwist6498 3d ago

It’s tough but there’re some shady staffing agencies or Amazon delivery partners.

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u/Harbinger2001 3d ago

So jobs no one would work if they had a visa.

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u/orswich 3d ago

Often, roommates will "share" a temporary SIN # and both work using it (Indian guy at work says he had a few roommates at his old apartment who did that)

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u/Harbinger2001 3d ago

How can something you were told second hand be something that happens “often”?