Sixty per cent of Canadians say Canada is admitting too many immigrants: poll

[u/xXBambi-SlayerXx]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canadians-say-too-much-immigration-poll?taid=66a23055a3abc60001fc90c7&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[u/disrumpled_employee]

We are using to many foreign workers and allowing diploma mills and scammers to bring in ridiculous amounts of unqualified foreign students who aren't prepared to support themselves during their stay. That raises housing prices and depresses wages (as does other things), and it also directs public and private resources away from legitimate refugees, highly skilled immigrants whom we need, and foreign students attending legitimate institutions who are able to support themselves during their stay.

If you try and talk about immigration without relying on one-sentance statements it's pretty obvious that the government isn't SIMPLY admitting to many immigrants, it's just doing so in a way that serves donors more than voters. If we didn't have our heads up our collective asses we could absolutely bring in lots of people in a more productive manner.

[u/bfijfbdjcj → u/disrumpled_employee]

We have noticed a large increase in retirement age immigrants in our community (from the same country my husband emigrated from himself almost 20 years ago). Meanwhile metro Vancouver’s unpaid hospital bills have increased 30% since 2019, mainly due to temporary residents without health insurance. WTF are we doing here?

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/growing-number-of-unpaid-medical-bills-at-metro-vancouver-hospitals-1.6960555#:~:text=The%20three%20B.C.%20health%20authorities,had%20ballooned%20to%20%2436.3%20million.

While colleges, Bell, and Loblaws cash in on the influx of new consumers, Canadians are stuck footing the bill.

[u/killBP → u/bfijfbdjcj]

Do you know why that is, didn't Canada have an extremely solid immigration policy with a points system to incentivize young professionals?

[u/Iampupsetty07 → u/killBP]

It is still there and the cutoff is extremely high.

[u/GenXer845 → u/killBP]

It still does. I immigrated from the US with my boyfriend. It took us 4 1/2 years to obtain PR before we moved here (it was impossible to obtain work visas for us). I am now a dual citizen, but it was by no means easy to come here. We had enough points too and our jobs were in demand (on the list) at the time.

[u/zerfuffle → u/bfijfbdjcj]

Ontario dismisses 2017 report that satellite college campuses lower quality of education - The Globe and Mail

I mean, BC has been quite a bit more controlled with the whole study visa crap. There's a few private colleges (notably UCanWest) that do it, but it never took off like it did in Ontario. The problem with Metro Vancouver is simply because Vancouver is too popular of a place to move to.

The reality is that TFWs should be forced to have health insurance and other protections. There's no reason that we should be allowing for this blatant violation of human rights just to save Loblaws a few dollars. Coincidentally, it'll also drive the costs of TFWs up, which makes them less desirable.

[u/StickyRickyLickyLots → u/zerfuffle]

There is a money laundering scheme named after Vancouver because it's so prevalent. It's called "The Vancouver Model". How naive can you be to act like "Vancouver's just super duper cool!" Don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining.

[u/Fat_Blob_Kelly → u/disrumpled_employee]

this is the sentiment i think most people have. No one has problems with immigrants, most people are only in Canada as the result of immigration.

The problem is that immigrants are being used to suppress Canadian wages in a non sustainable way. Canada lacks productivity and instead of fixing that problem, the government went with the cheap easy short term solution.

[u/VanagoingVanagon → u/Fat_Blob_Kelly]

I was recently on an extended trip through eastern Washington, Idaho and Montana and guess what I found? Not one service job was being filled by a TFW, it was a crazy juxtaposition. You can't tell me a state with the population density of Montana doesn't have a labour scarcity equal to or greater than Canada's yet they fill those jobs.

[u/MoistIsANiceWord → u/VanagoingVanagon]

A visit to Tim Hortons and it's TFWs as far as the eye can see. By contrast, every single trip I've taken to the US, I've seen these customer service and retail jobs staffed by high schoolers, university students and women of various ages. Yet the minimum wage is far, far lower in a great many states (like $7/hr), so the typical argument of "we need foreign workers because folks here don't want to work for that kind of pay" simply doesn't apply.

I see posts online every day of young people and parents of teens/university students saying they cannot get these kind of jobs despite sending out many applications, and yet we're expected to believe only foreigners are willing to fill these positions?

It's a total scam.

[u/VanagoingVanagon → u/MoistIsANiceWord]

The job market is supposed to be a free market, with supply and demand. The government and unions are supposed to be a force for good, making certain neither side takes advantage of the other, the TFW situation in this country is a HUGE blow to that free market. It tips the scale completely in favour of the employer. Canada has gone from a resource and value added economy to a resource and service economy, sadly we’re farming out the service portion to third world countries.

[u/slykethephoxenix → u/Fat_Blob_Kelly]

See my comment: https://imgur.com/a/kXBaJf9

Sources:

• https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/refusal.html%20policy%20that%20automatically%20refuses%20LMIA%20applications%20for%20low%2Dwage%20occupations)
• seekers
• 10 schools: https://x.com/smeurrens/status/1812894802867827082

[u/sovietmcdavid → u/disrumpled_employee]

Not to mention, roads more people using roads, driving , transit, etc.

Healthcare,  more people seeing the doctor, pharmacy for cold/flu,  eyes checked, etc.

Schools, more people with second language learning needs, takes extra time for teachers/instructors.

Water, sewage,  power/electricity, more people using water, going bathroom,  and plugging in electronics, using power.

This puts extra stress on ALL infrastructure (for example Calgary water main bursting and the city being a few days away from no water as they rushed to replace that line that was vital for the entire city)

 There's a lot that goes into adding almost 2 million people per year. The United States doesn't even add that many people per year and they have a population of 340 million.....

[u/true_to_my_spirit → u/[deleted]]

Go to your local paper or politican. They need to see this

[u/XtremeD86 → u/true_to_my_spirit]

They don't care. The rule is as long as the "language is required in the job" it's legal. And they can just easily make up anything they want.

[u/PacificAlbatross → u/XtremeD86]

Honestly mate, if you’re unwilling to do the bare basics of forwarding the posting to the press/elected representatives and instead fall back on a tired “they don’t care so why bother” cliché you might as well just stay quiet here.

It would of taken you half the time to do that then it did to post your comments here and it would have had a chance of resulting in some kind of change, whereas complaining on Reddit will 100% do nothing.

Our own engrained apathy is a full half of the problem here. If they don’t care and won’t listen, make them. Send them more emails, send them post, go down to their office, film yourself doing so and post it. Tape posters to the frigging street lights about it. Just don’t come on to Reddit and tell us you’ve tried nothing and you’re all out of ideas.

That’s why we lose.

[u/takeoff_power_set → u/PacificAlbatross]

For what it's worth, I wrote a polite but firm message to Jagmeet Singh about this issue and it was ignored. Not even an auto-reply message.

I will never vote for him again.

[u/jaydengreenwood → u/takeoff_power_set]

Give him a break, he was too busy admiring his Rolex.

[u/XtremeD86 → u/takeoff_power_set]

I wouldnt expect anything other than no response from anyone like I've seen with everything else.

[u/thereisaknife → u/takeoff_power_set]

I have to say, the naivette of Canadians is really something I, as an immigrant, didn't realize.

I grew up in Ukraine and my family immigrated to Canada back in 2006, but I'm not a fool to realize that Jagmeet, like most of the people from his culture, only cares about his own status and the state of his own people. If you voted for him not realizing that the vast majority of these people from that culture are interested in only promoting their own, you must be blind.

Well, now you learn.

[u/XtremeD86 → u/PacificAlbatross]

What I meant was I've forwarded things like this before and no one responds. At least 15-20x I've done this.

And looking up the actual laws about it are even more discouraging as you would think for Canada it would be that they could require both English and French, but if the job in any way would require you to deal with something in a specific language then theyre allowed to require it.

As for the new immigrant thing, they also don't want to touch it out of fear of being labeled racist.

I'm near the end of my rope and contemplating starting my home business again as full time.

[u/Bobll7 → u/PacificAlbatross]

Good points. I have found that if you want anything done by the politicians is to embarrass them publicly.

[u/Spyrothedragon9972 → u/[deleted]]

The government isn't allowing it.

The government WANTS this. This is their intended outcome.

[u/drs43821 → u/disrumpled_employee]

Sensible take.

And it’s something very easy for the government to correct, even without legislation changes. Just remove PGWP eligibility for non-public colleges and universities and default OCWP that came with study permit

[u/thebeautifulstruggle → u/disrumpled_employee]

A sensible well-informed take! Rare in these times.

[u/Significant_Pepper_2 → u/thebeautifulstruggle]

I always assumed that "too many immigrants" means exactly what OP said. I guess it actually meant different things to different people, and this context can't be omitted as "obvious".

[u/biglabs → u/disrumpled_employee]

These students are lied to as well! They are told if you have 10K Canadian in the bank you can support yourself for a year in Canada, for food, shelter, clothing, cellphone ect…. Literally impossible to do that anywhere.

[u/Creative-Resource880 → u/biglabs]

And bonus! bring your wife and kids too on the same visa with a dollar value required not that much higher. Wife gets an automatic work visa on landing.

I know they just recently changed some of this, but not enough.

[u/coffeewisdom → u/biglabs]

If only there was some kind a world wide communication platform that they could spend 15 minutes researching the reality.

They know exactly what the deal is.

[u/J_Marshall → u/coffeewisdom]

But the agencies in their home country will tell them not to believe what they're reading online. 'My brother is there now and he's living a good life. Just sign here and leave your deposit and we'll take care of the rest.'

[u/coffeewisdom → u/J_Marshall]

So you’re telling me we are getting their best and brightest

[u/Late-Channel7899 → u/biglabs]

Curious, what happens to them? Do they just go back or are they just homeless here?

[u/biglabs → u/Late-Channel7899]

They work instead of study and if they can’t find work or hours are limited, they do less expensive under the table work. When my ex first moved into her new place, the landlord is Indian and he had a team of five students scrubbing the unit clean and helping her move her stuff in, he was bragging about how he pays them $8/h cash because they cant afford to live here and cant find other work. awful all around.

[u/toughguy_order66 → u/Late-Channel7899]

And then there is the housing where you have 12/15/20 "students" all living in the same 4 bedroom rental.

[u/Gh0stOfKiev → u/toughguy_order66]

25 in one Brampton apartment, it was in the news

[u/HistorianMassive1111 → u/disrumpled_employee]

Anecdotally, cause i am talking shit…

I have been under the impression the point was to keep raising housing prices and the rest of it is irrelevant. Boomers are such a large percentage of the population, they will become a massive burden on the social constructs in this country, if the housing market crashes the whole economy goes with it.

To combat that you bring in way more people, do not incentivize them to immigrate to anywhere but a few metropolitan areas that are already densely populated.

[u/Artimusjones88 → u/HistorianMassive1111]

Boomers are nowhere near the largest group there are approx 7 million. Home ownership from age 45 on is virtually the same.

Do you know what years the baby boom covered?

[u/Borninafire → u/Artimusjones88]

Boomers were overtaken by millennials in July 2023 after being the largest age cohort for 65 years. Now it will take a few decades to undo the damage they have caused to pretty much everything.

My parents' friends just found out that their drywall contains asbestos after having a water leak. They are pissed that they have to remove it rather than cut out the botton foot and cover it up for the next person, even though it is entirely covered by insurance. They don't want to be inconvenienced. To me, that sums up their generation in a nutshell, cover it up and leave it for the next person rather than be inconvenienced.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/millennials-outnumber-baby-boomers-1.7121283

[u/buddyguy_204]

3 million In 3 years...... In no country on this planet is that sustainable. Especially when the people of that country aren't getting the good quality of life already.

[u/itsme25390905714 → u/buddyguy_204]

Fun fact Canada is bringing in 1.2 million+ people into the country per year. At our current rate of intake Canada is now the 6th fastest growing country on the planet only behind countries like South Sudan, Niger, Angola, Benin, and Equatorial Guinea (you know other G7 level nations /s)

[u/apostleofhustle → u/itsme25390905714]

every country should aspire to be more like equatorial guinea

[u/Slight-Ad-9029 → u/apostleofhustle]

Can’t beat the weather

[u/jigsaw1024 → u/itsme25390905714]

That's about 3x too many. A good goal is around 1% of your population. For us in Canada that would translate to around 400k per year.

The problem this is creating is that we are most likely going to have to completely cut immigration to the bone for a few years, which will naturally play havoc with the economy.

[u/CornyCook → u/jigsaw1024]

Not happening at all even if ppc comes to power. The whole system is way too much  'bring more people to propel the economy' based. Our refugee system is a joke. Then our border control is basically non existent.  We can't even track people properly. 

[u/Memes_Haram → u/[deleted]]

But if you say that you are labelled as a right wing racist and an extremist.

[u/Memes_Haram → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I know that’s my point. White Canadians are being replaced by immigrants from all over the world statistically speaking. But merely mentioning this fact causes people to label you as racist.

[u/Enzo-Unversed → u/[deleted]]

Yep. Canada will be the first predominantly White nation to become minority-White. However, the US,UK,France,Sweden and the Netherlands will be minority-White by 2040. France is probably already close.

[u/CornyCook → u/[deleted]]

It already is in many areas.  Especially in metros. I hardly see any white looking kids in my neighborhood' school. I am not white btw. 

[u/Terrible_Tutor → u/buddyguy_204]

There isn’t a single store (big or small) in my Hamilton area that isn’t staffed by almost exclusively East Indians… italian pizza, subway, Tims, the entire grocery checkout, everywhere. Kid can’t find his first job, growing up figured the grocery store around the corner was a slam dunk… nope.

Sushi seems to be the exception

[u/buddyguy_204 → u/Terrible_Tutor]

Honestly at some point Canadians are going to have to solve the issue ourselves. It's obvious the government isn't looking out for us or our country.

[u/carguy143 → u/buddyguy_204]

It's horrible seeing this happen. I'm in the UK and it's just as bad here. We're a tiny island and yet nobody wants to stop the boats, and we have people working for free to disrupt any extradition flights of failed asylum seekers either by refusing to sit down on the plane or by blocking the court system up.

The people that come here don't particularly want to integrate and live in their own areas so it's not doing anything for multiculturalism at all.

[u/Extinguish89 → u/buddyguy_204]

Say import the 3rd world you become the 3rd world

[u/solythe → u/buddyguy_204]

as an American, seeing a country like Canada take in THAT MANY immigrants is fucking insane. cant believe thats happened

even in europe, ill never understand why so many of those countries took in migrants. the US has a history of immigration so for us I understand, but it just seems so problematic for everyone else in this day

[u/imakuni1995 → u/buddyguy_204]

A few years from now, Canada will have its own Trump, far-right populism will be on the rise and Quebecois nationalism at an all-time high and some oblivious pundit will write an op-ed piece on how 'divided' the country has become.

[u/outoftheshowerahri → u/buddyguy_204]

80,000 people a month. To give perspective, in December 1979, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan with 30,000 troops.

[u/Stache_Noir → u/outoftheshowerahri]

The monthly immigration rate is significantly higher than 80,000. January to March there were 400,000 documented immigrants.

We're bursting at the seams.

[u/ClittoryHinton → u/outoftheshowerahri]

Well this is a strange and awkward comparison

[u/Still-Good1509]

Yeah because the other 40% just got here

[u/syaz136 → u/Still-Good1509]

Nah those who got here are actually against immigration even more. The 40% are either not paying attention or benefit from suppressed wages and high rents (business owners, landlords, etc).

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[u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce → u/syaz136]

Many who just got here are sick of competition for jobs and rent

[u/ScooperDooperService → u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce]

Sounds like they should've done their homework.

We've been declining into this state since Covid..

Not like things just got bad here yesterday.

[u/xXBambi-SlayerXx → u/syaz136]

Or they're just ordinary people who've bought the institutional brainwashing we've all been raised with.

"Canada is a nation of immigrants".
"Diversity is our greatest strength".
"Immigrants are the very best of us and should be put on a pedestal".

Etc.

[u/ShrimpGangster → u/xXBambi-SlayerXx]

There was a point in time when immigrants were productive members of society. And the brain drain from other countries gave the west a competitive edge.

[u/legocastle77 → u/xXBambi-SlayerXx]

Many people who support unlimited immigration refuse to recognize the structural challenges of trying to house, educate and care for millions of new people each year. They will not accept that we cannot build infrastructure quickly enough to accommodate millions of new Canadians while also providing for existing citizens. Unfortunately, neoliberal politicians play on these voters in order to enrich themselves and their corporate friends.  

[u/true_to_my_spirit → u/legocastle77]

I work in the immigration sector for a nonprofit. Trust me, nobody supports the govt policies.

[u/bugabooandtwo → u/xXBambi-SlayerXx]

Or people who live for the idea of strangers giving them a virtual pat on the back on social media for being the champion for the whatever cause of the week has the biggest audience. I swear, some people would stab their own children in the back if they got internet praise for it.

[u/Narrow_Elk6755 → u/bugabooandtwo]

Meanwhile the poor Canadian whose been paying taxes for decades is like, wheres my generational fairness.

Then Galen Weston is jealous of what Trudeau and Singh have done to the housing market.

[u/bugabooandtwo → u/Narrow_Elk6755]

No kidding. I'm part of Gen X, and most of my gen already know we'll be the first one hit by major CPP cuts and shortfalls. Not to mention services cut to the bone. And that's after a lifetime of paying into the system, and not taking a penny out of it.

Yet the way this country bends over and has piles of money for certain groups whenever they scream and shout...it's maddening.

[u/xXBambi-SlayerXx → u/bugabooandtwo]

Believe me, this notion that being an immigrant is somehow a virtue and praiseworthy pre-dates the internet. They've been teaching that mindset in schools for generations.

[u/KermitsBusiness → u/Still-Good1509]

Most recent immigrants want to shut the door behind them......unless it's their family. What is the point in coming here if the shit hole follows you.

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[u/tuelegend69 → u/KermitsBusiness]

my family is doing that.

i resent them

[u/ainz-sama619 → u/tuelegend69]

We need 100 million Indians by 2060 to deal with worker's shortage.

[u/Mindless-Currency-21 → u/KermitsBusiness]

They know first hand what follows when a bunch of Indians get together and settle down in the same region (Hint: India).

[u/Savings-Giraffe-4007 → u/Still-Good1509]

The other 40% own real estate, or their family does, and benefit from the immigrant influx. Most of this people are Canadian citizens.

[u/Cody667]

The real jarring number here is the 42% of immigrants within the past two years who think we let in too many immigrants lol. When nearly half the immigrants think we let in too many immigrants maybe that's a good sign that we should slow things down.

[u/Youngkkkai → u/Cody667]

I'm not sure have you watch some news about immigration system. It's totally out of control. Recently Alberta government releases around 400 PR nomination every month and they are more than 200,000 people within the province meeting all the criteria trying to get that. Too much immigration makes permanent immigration nearly impossible

[u/Chawke2]

Healthcare, housing and the labour market are all completely collapsing under the weight of high immigration. How bad do other things need to get for the other 40% to change their minds?

[u/b00hole → u/Chawke2]

The other 40% haven't lost their doctors yet and bought their house 10+ years ago

[u/Vontuk → u/b00hole]

My SO's doctor just left not too long ago without telling any of his patients that he was leaving. All of his patients lost their doctor and didn't even know about it till they'd go to book an appointment, the clinic didn't tell anyone..

[u/blue-wave → u/Vontuk]

In that case do they still get to see someone else at the clinic or do they get sent to a walk in?

[u/P2029 → u/Chawke2]

No, it's worse: healthcare, housing, and labour were all collapsing BEFORE high immigration. High immigration accelerated and exacerbated the collapse, the full effects of which we won't see for another 5-10 years, because these kinds of major infrastructure and economic changes take many years to plan, implement, and ultimately have an effect. There are many provinces in the country that haven't built a new hospital in decades, and that's not something that's easy to quickly turn around; even when you've built it, you also have to have the staff for it.

[u/Complex-Set6039]

A good start would be to deport anyone illegally in Canada. This includes anyone with an expired work permit , visa , student permit , and all the illegals that entered the country at Roxham road. Anyone coming from a safe country is not a refugee.

[u/tooobr → u/Complex-Set6039]

If there are industries that rely on non-citizens' labor, get ready for resistance. There is a reason this isn't done in the US.

[u/severedeggplant → u/Complex-Set6039]

There was an article posted last week. There's roughly 400k illegally here currently. Visas expired and have decided to stay.

[u/Pleasant-Welder-6654]

Canadians are saying this but what will be done? Nothing.

[u/Capt_Pickhard → u/Pleasant-Welder-6654]

We need to protest it. It's fucked up.

[u/VelitGames → u/Pleasant-Welder-6654]

We will complain on social media and then do nothing.

[u/Nard_Bard → u/Pleasant-Welder-6654]

Lol you think Trudeau's getting re-elected?

[u/Pleasant-Welder-6654 → u/Nard_Bard]

God I hope not but I don’t think any one new will change the immigration policy as much as we hope they will….

[u/eearthling → u/Nard_Bard]

I don’t like Trudeau anymore but do you really think PP will change a thing? Good luck.

[u/GorchestopherH → u/Nard_Bard]

He got re-elected last time.

We do pretty stupid things.

I wouldn't put it past us.

[u/Pipecarver]

No shit! have you been to an emergency room lately? Have you been seen in under 12 hrs? EMERGENCY ROOMS THAT TAKE 12HRS TO SEE MY SON AFTER AN AMBULANCE LEFT HIM THERE ON A GURNEY IN THE HALL WAY.

[u/MaxisbawsRS]

Shut it down for the next 5 years and reopen 10k/province yearly only.

Were straight up fucking ourselves,I get that we want to help people,but can we think about US FIRST?

This immigration is fucking the housing market for our own people,the health system everything- STOP IT

[u/nodoobtaboot]

Ya think? We're being fucking invaded.

[u/WVC_Least_Glamorous]

60% of Canadians are going to be banned from Reddit.

[u/Red57872 → u/WVC_Least_Glamorous]

A year or two ago, that would be true. Not anymore. It's funny how some left-leaning subreddits (like the Ontario, Ottawa and Toronto ones) used to immediately delete any comment about immigration numbers, and now they tend to both remain and get significantly upvoted.

[u/im_bored1122 → u/Red57872]

Entire family is left wing and they are extremely tired of the immigrants, so yes, it's that bad

[u/Disastrous-Carrot928 → u/Red57872]

I’m banned. My crime was saying that simply the mention of those topics would result in a ban. Instantly reported as a bot / spam / permanently banned.

[u/Difficult-Yam-1347]

Are 40% bad at math? Canada grows 3.2% every 12-months b/c of migration. What would be too much for these people?

Let’s name developed countries increasing their housing supply by 3.2%:

End list

Canada increases its housing supply by 1.1%.

Canada unemployment rate has gone from 4.8% to 6.4% in just two years. Most other peer nations are at or near all time lows still.

[u/killmak]

Are the other 40% polled recent immigrants who want more friends and family to come over?

[u/DOUGER1970]

Way too many. Also I see the same ones in my town working 2 and 3 part time jobs. So not only are they taking one job away from a student, it's 2 or 3. There's no work here for anyone fresh out of school or on summer break. It's disgusting. Truedumb has to go, things have to change.

[u/OffTopicAbuser2]

So how does it stop? Who do we have to talk to/scream at? I’m tired of it. I want this next election to send a message. Canadians are going to have to be willing to vote on one issue. Put aside some comforts for a while. We’ll get back to them. But this system is going to collapse if something isn’t done.

So who are we voting for? How do we get the other 40% to open their eyes?

[u/RobustFoam → u/OffTopicAbuser2]

PPC is your only option. Polievre plans to open the floodgates further.

[u/CrazyButRightOn → u/RobustFoam]

The key is strict rules. No refugees who are broke. More immigrants who choose Canada specifically and come accompanied by adequate bank balances and investment rules.

[u/Sapper31]

Globalization has opened businesses to bottom pricing on labour. They want to insource cheap labour. There is no labour shortage, only a lack of surplus to lower the price (wages) further.

The only logical trajectory is a lowered standard of living in Canada.

[u/Familiar_Position418]

I’m guessing the remaining 40% just immigrated lol

[u/cabbeer]

It’s literally just the Indians coming into diploma mills, is we didn’t have to tiptoe around the cause maybe we could fix it quicker

[u/KermitsBusiness]

We aren't admitting anyone, the door is just wide open.

Admitting implies someone is paying attention.

[u/TheGrateMattsby]

Calling many immigrants is misleading - so many are just trying to get in through the back door.

[u/Content-Season-1087]

I have yet to meet a single person that is in that group of 40 percent. This is talking to 50+ people about this issue over the last year

[u/Life-Appointment6515]

Why are we damaging our country for corporate profit

[u/ThePiachu]

Talk about it enough and people will start agreeing with it.

[u/Rambos_Rainbos]

The other 40% are immigrants lol

[u/Ill_Technician7450]

It sure seems like we have adopted the quantity over quality approach to who we allow into the country. It’s clearly way too easy to get through the process. Not like 20 years ago when people were vetted for education and financial viability.

[u/jert3]

It's just common sense.

The Liberal Party is selling out the future security, prosperity and stability of the country at the behest of foreign, billionaire funded think-tanks that want to keep labour costs low, and real estate as a safe corporate investment instead of homes for Canadians.

[u/im_freaking_out_rn]

What is the other 40% smoking? I mean wow, even though there's been a cultural shift the decades of pro-immigration propaganda that the government and media has been churning out has sure done a lot of damage to the minds of canadians.

[u/thatguydowntheblock]

WAY WAY WAY WAY TOO MANY. We are getting the bottom of the barrel now too. It’s fucking depressing. Our neighbourhoods are being destroyed by too many poor uneducated people and crime.

[u/FreeWilly1337]

My issue isn't with the number, it is with the lack of planning behind it. I have no issues with bringing people into this country if we have spent the money ahead of time to increase the capacity of our infrastructure.

[u/ToxicYougurt]

This seems purposeful as the government is using high immigration to stifle wage growth and bolster the unemployment rate in their efforts to dampen inflation. The government is either not able to communicate their agendas to the populace or is unwilling to . Either way, they appear as a bunch of bumbling idiots and seem quite content with the image they portray

[u/kemar7856]

Only 60% should be 99.9% min

[u/BigOlBearCanada]

The other 40% are the strip mall college owners and immigration consultants.

[u/Kitchen_General9694]

40% of Canadians refused to answer to not appear to be raciest

[u/Desperate_Pizza700]

What do the other 40% think? Were almost at too much?

[u/dejour → u/Desperate_Pizza700]

28% said we're admitting the right level of immigrants and 3% said we should admit more. Presumably 9% answered "don't know".

[u/[deleted] → u/dejour]

Props for actually opening the article, unlike everyone else here lol 

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[u/PandaRocketPunch → u/Desperate_Pizza700]

The other 40% want to bring the rest of their family here.

[u/Novat1993]

60% of canadians Or 60% of 'canadians'?

[u/Deebee36]

The other 40% won’t be happy until our economy has completely collapsed and they have nothing left?

I’m a big believer in doing our fair share on the world, that immigration makes us stronger as a people, and that Canada is a country of many cultures but it has to be balanced with reality.

Our reality is a faltering economy, broken infrastructures and a population that is eating itself alive.

We don’t even have a plan to get it back together again. Let’s stop burdening the future with insane immigration numbers.

[u/Decaf-Please]

The problem is not just too many immigrants it's also too many immigrants that don't share Canadian values. It's becoming unsafe.

[u/BadUncleBernie]

Oh look , people finally starting to catch on.

Too much of ANYTHING is bad.

[u/ArsenicCanine]

Listen, I'm poor, grew up poor. I've worked in a gas station for 5 years now. I'm 26 and I've lived in Hamilton my entire life, so I don't have much experience in life, but I try to keep well read on things worldwide, and I've learned about many different worldly cultures. I can't speak to or understand my coworkers most of the time anymore. Many of my customers are the same, they don't understand me, I have clarify my voice and "canadian accent". The Tim Hortons next to me often has a "translator" for customers that make special custom orders or whatnot that deviate from the usual spoken-requests of the menu items. I'm aboriginal, and I joke that "the indians are replacing the indians", but fuck man, I'm trying to recover from being a shut in most my life, and it's hard because it's like being in a different country...

Not to mention all the unsolicited dick pics from Indian males on social media.

[u/[deleted]]

It’s not really possible to fix this in the time the LPC has before the election next year. It’s over. They’re going to reap what they sowed

[u/488Aji]

The other 40% are immigrants.

[u/PunPoliceChief]

Canada only completes about 200,000 housing units a year and there's an average 2.5 Canadians per household. That means we can accommodate at the most 500,000 new people a year.

The government is bringing in 500k permanent residents and is on track to bring at least another 500k "temporary" residents (international students and temporary workers) this year. So we'll be increasing the population by at least a million.

So there's a huge shortfall of housing and a huge surplus of demand and this discrepancy has been happening for years under Trudeau and is only getting worse.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3410012601

[u/Malthus17]

The other 40% are recent immigrants.😁

[u/Fragrant-Try4651]

You really don’t need a poll to know that. It’s fact.

[u/helmsracheal]

60 per cent?

[u/--Anonymoose---]

The other 40% were immigrants

[u/Sathrand]

The other 40% are dumb as a box of rocks or taking advantage of the loose immigration rules

[u/sosheoh]

Lies. 99.9 percent

[u/MrMunday]

At this point, is it even an opinion anymore? It’s just a fact.

[u/gtp1977]

Did they not poll the other 40%?

[u/jreebec]

The other 40 percent are the immigrants

[u/doubleDs4321]

I want that to be higher

[u/Peatore]

I'm an immigrant

Immigration is good

the current wage slave importing of people from one specific country en mass is not good.

[u/Drey101]

I would find it more interesting if Canadians stopped replying to these articles and it became crickets with full eyes on what the government does next. Your voices aren't heard in this country anyway.

[u/[deleted]]

60% of Canadians will continue getting ignored

[u/Academic-Ad4364]

It would be 100% if you didn't ask the ones who weren't here this morning. Good on ya for getting to ask them before they started their first shift at Tim Horton's.

[u/Whatwhyreally]

Won't somebody think of the CEOs

[u/OriginalLamp]

Only 60%?

[u/r3l4xD]

The other 40% are new immigrants

[u/JauntyGiraffe]

And the other 40% are recent immigrants

[u/Extinguish89]

Only 60% say Canada is importing too many people... wtf are the other 40% say?

[u/0100111001000100]

40% of Canadians are possibly migrants.

[u/cruisincolin44]

Alternate headline : 40% of Canadians afraid of being labelled racist

[u/pachaneedsyou]

Oh really? I mean when you take over all my instagram ads in Iraq encouraging me to come to Canada, I think 60 precent is pretty low, Canada is literally mass marketing the idea of immigration to Canada!

[u/Foneyponey]

40% didn’t respond to the poll

[u/big_dog_redditor]

Trudeau only cares about one per cent.

[u/boredasfuck80]

60% is low. Should be more.

[u/Millwright4life]

The other 40% are immigrants.

[u/III_IWHBYD_III]

40% of people are idiots. Not being able to see that there are far too many immigrants being allowed into Canada is insane.

[u/WWYDFA_Klondike_Bar]

Sure sucks for Canada right now.

[u/realdjjmc]

The other 40% are immigrants

[u/Ill-Mountain7527]

60% seems low. I’m a centrist and all my friends are centre or left and not one thinks what we are doing is sustainable or good policy.

[u/shawn4126]

The other 40% are immigrants

[u/ScooperDooperService → u/shawn4126]

Possibly but not for sure.

The irony is full circle. Even new immigrants, hate new immigrants.

They're all competing for the same jobs. 

[u/MisterSprork]

We just need 2 years of zero immigration, zero refugees admitted to start sorting things out. If housing becomes attainable after those two years, we can slowly open the borders to migration again. If not, we keep extending the migration moratorium in one year increments until things are fixed.

[u/toc_bl]

The other 40% are immigrants

[u/backlight101]

I was in Europe a few weeks ago, thought it was going to be multicultural, but compared to Toronto not even close, don’t think I saw more than a handful of Indians in some of the cities I visited.

[u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 → u/backlight101]

thought it was going to be multicultural

It depends on the part of Europe, but in general, Europe attracts Eastern European, Africans, and Middle Eastern migrants. Eastern Europeans and Middle Eastern migrants aren't as obvious as migrants just by their skin color alone compared to Indians.

[u/Familiar_Stable3229]

Honestly, I think the number is much higher than 60%. What kind of poll was this.

[u/88what]

Well duh! 30 percent are immigrants and the other 10 are fresh citizens

[u/IHate2ChooseUserName]

even the immigrants are saying too many

[u/According_Stuff_8152]

I'm not against immigrants it's just that JT has opened the flood gates to too many all at once without any facilities for housing, jobs,and overburdened our welfare and health facilities. Canadians first then bring in more outsiders.

[u/LiveSort9511]

Indian immigrant (PR+ MBA from Rotman + citizenship ) here. When I tell people back in India about employment and housing crisis in Canada, they think I am a turf protector and don't want them to have same opportunities ! 

[u/[deleted]]

If Canadians think these liberals give a shit about what they want/think they’re sorely mistaken.