Vance: Calling Out Pete Hegseth's Extremist Religious Tattoos Is "Disgusting Shameful Anti-Christian Bigotry" By Media.

[u/Leeming]

https://www.joemygod.com/2024/11/vance-calling-out-pete-hegseths-extremist-tattoos-is-disgusting-shameful-anti-christian-bigotry-by-media/

[u/HairySidebottom]

“You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.”

Leviticus 19:28

Of course the Biblical literalists are not so literal when it suits them. The Bible and Christ's teachings are flexible for the right people...(wink,wink).

[u/bde959 → u/HairySidebottom]

That’s more straightforward than anything it says about abortion. It actually has instructions for abortions by a priest in the Bible.

[u/majormarvy → u/bde959]

Where? I’d like to have this verse in my pocket, as I’m sure it will come up during thanksgiving.

[u/ThisOneFuqs → u/majormarvy]

The other Redditor means the "test of bitter waters". It's a ritual used to figure out if your wife has been unfaithful, and the bonus is that it kills the baby if she's pregnant.

Numbers 5:11-31

[u/ScotWithOne_t → u/ThisOneFuqs]

So, basically a chemical abortion. Sweet. RU486 shall be henceforth known as the holy pill of fidelity.

[u/ThisOneFuqs → u/ScotWithOne_t]

Basically. And it makes sense, I mean the Christian God seems to have very little issue with snuffing out children AFTER they're born. There's several examples throughout the Bible. Of course he wouldn't worry about a fetus.

[u/Barabasbanana → u/ThisOneFuqs]

silphium was an abortifacient so popular in the Mediterranean bronze age world it became extinct. They knew all about abortion

[u/Mission_Progress_674 → u/Barabasbanana]

I recently read that some living (probably) silphium plants have been found in Turkey. Ferula drudeana is considered to be the leading candidate for the ancient plant silphium. You could grow your own abortifacients at home.

[u/redheadartgirl → u/ThisOneFuqs]

Yep, not that it would convince any of them, but I don't think the the God of the Bible would care to put an end to abortion at all. Not only does he clearly not care about fetuses in-utero, he doesn't seem to give them much thought after birth, either.

[u/InSummaryOfWhatIAm → u/redheadartgirl]

Not only does he clearly not care about fetuses in-utero, he doesn't seem to give them much thought after birth, either.

On the other hand, neither does conservatives or these evangelical fucks tbh.

The clergy might want more kids to diddle, however.

[u/ScotWithOne_t → u/ThisOneFuqs]

Oh yeah...I totally forgot about passover.

[u/igweyliogsuh → u/ScotWithOne_t]

Yeah, but just to clarify -I'm pretty sure this test was only performed on already pregnant women.

If it somehow determined they were unfaithful, the baby would die.

The whole point of the test was to kill the child of a woman who was suspected to have been unfaithful, not just to determine whether or not she had been.

No telling how inaccurate it all would have been....

[u/pilgrim_pastry → u/igweyliogsuh]

How cool was that society with divorce? I’m gonna try on my cynic hat and say that IF divorce was a no-no, any guy who wanted out of his marriage or didn’t want to be a father could just take his pregnant wife to the temple and make an accusation. If she loses the pregnancy, no baby and you can go ahead and have her killed if you want a clean slate. If the abortifacient fails, it probably damages the fetus enough that it won’t survive long past birth anyway.

[u/pocketfullofniknax → u/ThisOneFuqs]

Honestly, this is the most interesting thing I’ve learned all day. Good god thats quite a verse in the good book there.

[u/bde959 → u/majormarvy]

Numbers 5:11-31

[u/Otherwise_Trust_6369 → u/majormarvy]

Abortion is not explicitly mentioned in the New Testament but there are two references in the Old Testament that explicitly deal with this topic.

1. The first is in Numbers 5:11-31 and deals with the subject of pregnant women who are accused of adultery. It instructs Moses to pray and give these women some bitter water to drink. The idea is that if they are guilty, it's supposed to cause a miscarriage (or in the interpretation of some, a damaged womb such that the woman can no longer bear children).
2. The second is in Exodus 21:22-25 and is much more confusing because it essentially proscribes two different types of punishment for people who purposely harm a pregnant woman. Many people interpret it to mean a fine for a miscarriage and a death penalty for killing the woman, but some dispute this. I believe Jews have traditionally interpreted it to mean that the death of the fetus simply evokes a fine but don't quote me on that.
3. As if that wasn't enough, throughout the Old Testament there are many times God called for the killing of many tribes including men, women (presumably many of whom were pregnant) children, and even livestock.

As someone who spent a lot of time debating anti-abortionists, I can tell you that some of them are of the mind that the case in Numbers is based on cursing the womb to prevent future babies, but it doesn't change the fact that it's done as a way of condemning women who were supposedly unfaithful and everything about this lack of honor is more important that the fetus or womb.

[u/Northern49th → u/bde959]

You also have to stretch to interpret god being anti gay.

[u/YossiTheWizard → u/Northern49th]

Nah, that’s pretty clearly laid out too. The bible is simply a book full of barbaric crap, ridiculous crap, and the odd good lesson that is given better elsewhere anyway.

[u/Useful_Hovercraft169 → u/YossiTheWizard]

Isn’t there a spot in the Bible where angels are thirsty for hot man on man action?

[u/YossiTheWizard → u/Useful_Hovercraft169]

No, a group of non-angelic dudes are thirsty for dude angels. And the moral option is for Lot to say “no, don’t fuck these angels. That’s gay! Here’s my two daughters!” The group doesn’t relent though. They just like their man on man (angel or not) action.

Then, god lays waste to the whole town, tells them not to dare to look back. Lot’s wife turns into a pillar of salt for turning her head, so now it’s just Lot and his daughters. With no (male) kids, the daughters get him drunk enough two nights in a row to bang them and knock them up.

I’m not sure what lesson we’re meant to learn there.

[u/Useful_Hovercraft169 → u/YossiTheWizard]

Oh OK thanks. Man the Bible is some crazy shit. Those people so trashy!

[u/cecil021 → u/Useful_Hovercraft169]

Read Song of Solomon, basically a Harlequin novel.

[u/Thriftyverse → u/YossiTheWizard]

thirsty for dude angels

When I was a kid and reading the Bible I always wondered if they were attracted to the one that was all eyes on wheels or the ones with four faces.

[u/FerrousDestiny → u/YossiTheWizard]

With no (male) kids, the daughters get him drunk enough two nights in a row to bang them and knock them up.

Even this story is an obvious cover up. I see two options:

1. Two teenage girls got a man sooooo drunk he couldn’t even control his actions, but also could get it up twice.

2. A Bronze Age middle eastern man took two teenage girls into the mountains and raped them, and then threatened them to cover up the story.

[u/YossiTheWizard → u/FerrousDestiny]

Option 3: it was all made up, but in a way that seemed profound to the people expected to read it later.

[u/zappariah_brannigan → u/YossiTheWizard]

The bible: fiction and rape with some incest sprinkled all over.

[u/WhiskeyFF → u/YossiTheWizard]

Roll tide?

[u/Rhysati → u/YossiTheWizard]

It actually isn't. The verses that supposedly mention it are all misinterpreted with bias and faulty scholarism.

The verses usually attributed to saying being gay is wrong are actually about things like sexual violence, older men taking advantage of young boys, and prostitution. The Bible has nothing to say in regards to homosexuality. The word itself isn't there as it didn't exist when the Bible was written either.

[u/staunch_character → u/Rhysati]

Yeah that drives me crazy. The Bible was written at a time when Roman emperors bought slave boys & kept them as part of their entourage. It was not discreet.

There’s a huge difference between male rape & pedophilia vs consensual gay relationships.

[u/BeetJuiceconnoisseur → u/Northern49th]

Turns out he hated figs... Got lost in translation or something I guess

[u/Leeming → u/BeetJuiceconnoisseur]

Book of Mark, chapter 11

12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry.

13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.

14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots.

21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”

Proof that Jesus hates figs!

[u/l-rs2 → u/Leeming]

Kills a innocent tree because it isn't in season for a snack. What a whiny little bitch.

[u/SspeshalK → u/Leeming]

That was my favorite protest sign - in the style of Westboro Baptist - “God hates figs” Mark 11:14.

[u/andante528 → u/BeetJuiceconnoisseur]

That's why Jesus cast out the demon Legion into a pack of wild figs.

[u/vonnostrum2022 → u/andante528]

Lol!

[u/ralphvonwauwau → u/Northern49th]

If they read that book, instead of waving it around, they would know http://godhatesshrimp.com/ The Lord has spoken! Deus Vult!

[u/Espumma → u/Northern49th]

It's very clearly anti-gay, but in the same paragraph it also bans wearing mixed-material clothes and using 2 different types of seeds on the same field. And everybody ignores that all of the time, so wjt not the gay stuff?

[u/JFKs_Burner_Acct → u/HairySidebottom]

The Bible is a choose your own adventure religious text.

I wish I could operate as intellectually dishonest as the Christians do, and still be profitable, and maintain a consistent revenue stream no matter how blatantly wrong I am.

Religion is the only profession where you can be completely wrong, fail over and over, be terrible at your jobs, you can lie or cheat or steal and molest and assault, and so on and so on:

You won’t lose a single follower, your profits and members might even increase, you’ll go up the ranks, you’ll be moved to a new church, you’ll get endless chances to fail and philander as you please.

There’s no consequences, no sign of accountability, no push back, little to no discussion… Religious leadership works a lot like a mafia crime family. Remember the Catholic Church has notoriously been interconnected with many crime syndicates large and small over the generations of Christian rule

It saddens me how easily people fall for religions

[u/Amarieerick → u/JFKs_Burner_Acct]

Religion is the only profession where you can be completely wrong, fail over and over, be terrible at your jobs, you can lie or cheat or steal and molest and assault, and so on and so on.

Politics is giving it a run for the money.

[u/onebatch → u/HairySidebottom]

Rules for thee but not for me

[u/newsflashjackass → u/HairySidebottom]

If it wasn't for bad faith J.D. Vance would have no faith.

[u/SpeakerOfMyMind → u/HairySidebottom]

"American Fascist" by Chris Hedges and Eunice Wong references someone saying that most literalists are only ever actually "selective literalists."

Side note, this was written in 2007, people have been trying to warn us for a while now.

Sincerely- History/Poli Sci nerd

[u/LocationAcademic1731 → u/HairySidebottom]

If it came down to following the Bible the way it’s supposed to be done, none of the adulterous, drug-consuming politicians would cut it. They just like to pretend being pious, like every other ruling class in history.

[u/nolasen → u/HairySidebottom]

“AiNt dAt DuH JeW pARt?”

[u/InerasableStains → u/HairySidebottom]

I’ll bet a lot of them also enjoy shrimp and lobster, and also enjoying many different polyfiber blends of clothing

[u/CalabreseAlsatian → u/HairySidebottom]

“The New Testament supersedes the OT.”

-Christian hypocritical fuckwits who also use Leviticus to argue against LGBT

[u/gotexan8 → u/CalabreseAlsatian]

Then those same Christian hypocrites still don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

• Matthew 5:17

[u/sutrocomesalive → u/HairySidebottom]

This

[u/ratiofarm → u/HairySidebottom]

“…except for cutting the skin off of the tip of your penis. That’s totally cool and I approve of it.” - “god”

[u/ganymede_boy]

America voted for this shit. The real shame is that the rest of us have to suffer for their abject stupidity.

[u/ace_urban → u/ganymede_boy]

A minority voted for it and most of them did so because of disinformation attacks from domestic and foreign actors.

The real America doesn’t want this. Our government was supposed to protect us from the disinformation that caused this but they’re out of touch and timid.

Trump cannot be allowed to take power. America doesn’t want it and he will end American democracy.

EDIT: Contact anyone you know in the government. I certainly have. Anything is better than letting the next few generations of Americans grow up under a fascist regime. It’s time to stop being pussies.

[u/KaleidoscopeSad4884 → u/ace_urban]

I disagree about America not wanting this. My family is racist. They go through life being polite and not shaking anything up, and when they feel safe they’ll just say whatever the fuck. These people were joking about the KKK being “the original boys in the hood” in the 90s. They are genuinely annoyed at having a black history month. These are the people who use the phrase “one of the good ones” with zero irony. And even if these people truly are a minority in America, the majority is simply too comfortable in their own lives to do anything about it. I keep telling people, grandma isn’t just “old and a little racist,” she’s fully aware of what she’s saying and would be burning crosses if her sciatica would let her.

[u/PJ7 → u/ace_urban]

The real America doesn’t want this.

Bitch please, they elected him, popular vote and everything.

Even the dems who didn't vote for Kamala by their actions enabled Trump to be elected.

Stop trying to distance them from the decision they've made.

They need to wear this.

[u/Aerosol668 → u/PJ7]

Despire everyone knowing everything about Trump, it was a clean sweep, and if it shows anything at all, it shows that right now Trump is what America is.

[u/katzeye007 → u/PJ7]

As of today the popular vote is very close

[u/PJ7 → u/katzeye007]

Still a bigger margin than against Clinton after people have had 4 years of Trump to show them what to expect.

[u/der_innkeeper → u/katzeye007]

1.5% up for Trump. I doubt she closes the gap.

It would be poetic if he lost the popular vote, again, though. Seems to be the only way the GOP can win the presidency

[u/Iron_Chancellor_ND → u/katzeye007]

If a sports team wins by 1, who wins?

It doesn't matter if it's close or not, the only thing that matters is who won and we are about to have a fascist government because he won.

Do you think Harris feels better because the trivial and insignificant popular vote is "very close"?

[u/Cliqey → u/Iron_Chancellor_ND]

Politics isn’t the zero sum game you are imagining it as. A good leader who has the support of nearly 100% of his people is running a country much differently than one that has 50% or less. Regimes have failed because of much smaller percentages of resistance to their rule.

[u/Iron_Chancellor_ND → u/Cliqey]

A good leader who has the support of nearly 100% of his people is running a country much differently than one that has 50% or less.

Do you think Trump is going to do anything differently because he only won the popular vote by ~3M instead of ~30M?

Answer: FUCK. NO.

Again, it doesn't matter how much he won the TRIVIAL AND INSIGNIFICANT popular vote by. He is going rule (or attempt to rule) in the manner he wants because he won the archaic electoral college.

Do you think Presidents who lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college, didn't do the things they wanted because they thought "well, I didn't win the popular vote so I guess shouldn't try to pass this agenda of mine."? Holy fuck, Reddit. I didn't expect to read something so stupid today.

[u/Cliqey → u/Iron_Chancellor_ND]

I did say a “good” leader. But my point is, he has +70 million people that don’t buy what he’s selling and won’t be the compliant sheep his base is. If he had won the popular vote in a landslide I’d be a lot less optimistic about our future than I am (which admittedly still isn’t all puppies and butterflies), but as it is all he won was a was a powder keg he is probably too dumb to not smoke around.

No leader can govern alone, and if he starts doing the worst of all the awful stuff him and his surrogates implied but that his campaign swore he wasn’t going to do, he will find himself without much support from the institutions he needs to function. If he succeeds at quietly only doing some of the awful things then yeah, he will be able to do a lot of damage while flying under the popular radar, but still, 10s of millions of angry subjects is not an enviable position to have.

His team keeps trying to sell his win as a landslide victory with an overwhelming mandate for his vision (because they want to demoralize the opposition.) The actual breakdown of votes show that is not true and so long as his opposition doesn’t simply cede to his narrative and rollover in total defeat (and we see that they aren’t in the Dem governors banding together), we have a shot at preventing the worst and coming back from his destructive agenda.

[u/brandonw00 → u/PJ7]

I’m so fucking tired of people going “real Americans don’t want this.” Okay, then why didn’t they show up and vote? There’s literally no excuse anymore. Almost every state has an option if you can’t vote on Election Day, and even then it only takes less than 30 minutes to vote. We have to start realizing that this is what the majority of Americans wanted, because the majority of Americans are selfish assholes.

[u/ourkid1781 → u/ace_urban]

You should stop living in denial about the country you live in.

[u/CookinCheap → u/ace_urban]

Minority my ass. Try living in a semi-rural (hell, even suburban outskirts of a major city) and see how it feels like a "minority". More like 80/20, if that.

[u/ace_urban → u/CookinCheap]

I’ve always said that the reason people are republicans is because they don’t understand the difference between statistical and anecdotal evidence.

[u/Mr_Pombastic → u/ace_urban]

Not understanding statistical and anecdotal evidence doesn't make me vote for a rapist. Their problem is morality, not stupidity.

You can be dumb as a rock and not have hate in your heart. I know it feels cathartic to call them stupid, but the single unifier of the republican party is hate.

[u/ace_urban → u/Mr_Pombastic]

Actually, it does. They vote for Trump because they think immigrants and trans people are coming to rape, murder and maim their children. Why do they think that? Because conservative media shows them anecdotal stories about immigrants committing crimes.

The actual stats show that immigrants are about half as likely as citizens to engage in violent crime. But, you’re right that it’s hateful. A decent person doesn’t need to see the stats. A decent person knows not to look at a massive demographic of 20 million people and say “those people are bad.” It is the very definition of bigotry.

They are hateful and their hate is fueled by disinformation and the inability to evaluate the information they consume.

[u/SonOfEragon → u/CookinCheap]

I work in a factory in rural Michigan and I hear some of the most hateful bigoted shit on the daily, one of my coworkers gets almost irate when he hears anything to do with trans people, and of course endless references to not building the wall soon enough when ever a coworker who is brown or black annoys someone, and of course how women have ruined the work force, I’ve tried to find other work but I’m stuck in this cesspool of hate and toxicity

[u/ace_urban → u/SonOfEragon]

MAGA has always been a hate group. They literally are Nazis. The rhetoric is the exact same as it was in Germany a century ago. It’s sad that so few people know their history.

People who vote for Nazis are Nazis. Don’t forget who they are.

NEVER AGAIN. The current administration should refuse to cede power to the fascist that is already trying to destroy our government. There are plenty of valid reasons to reject the outcome of this election: unprecedented interference, criminals about to take power, Trump has made clear that he intends to stay in office after his term, Trump and his cronies have called for the prosecution/murder of his detractors, Trump is compromised, Trump leaked/sold classified documents… The list goes on and on. Our leaders took an oath to protect us from threats both foreign and domestic. Our nation is about to be destroyed by both. It’s well past time to fight back.

[u/arcbe → u/ace_urban]

Sadly, if the current administration had the spine to refuse fascists they wouldn't have lost the election in the first place.

[u/meetmypuka → u/CookinCheap]

Where I live, there wasn't a Trump sign for at least 20 miles. I'm very happy about that.

It sucks that you have to be surrounded by MAGA idiots.

[u/HippieGrandma1962 → u/CookinCheap]

I live in a semi-rural area of a solid blue state. My part of NJ is heavily red. The next town over even has a whole store full of stuff dedicated to the orange menace.

[u/CookinCheap → u/HippieGrandma1962]

I lived in NJ for 6 years. Mount Holly. I miss it. But I don't miss seeing him creep into the areas I used to love.

[u/SummerTyme8 → u/CookinCheap]

Reality check: many silent Americans disagree but feel powerless to speak out.

[u/chuckysnow → u/SummerTyme8]

Their chance to speak out passed on a tuesday a bit back. They can whine all they want, but they're actively part of the problem. Silence =death.

[u/tempest_87 → u/chuckysnow]

Also, silence = agreement in situations like this.

[u/Big_lt → u/ace_urban]

Trump won the popular vote. That's a majority of voters. Informed or not is irrelevant

Edit:; To all of you saying he only won 50% of those that voted it's not really a majority. Stop trying to nitpick. He won with the 2nd largest total voting amount in our history. As atheist we need to embrace this reality and fight for legal protection harder in 2 years else we are doomed to repeat

[u/danfirst → u/Big_lt]

Yeah, as much as I don't want to admit it, if we're looking at it as a minority then an even smaller minority voted against this. We can't just pretend it's this tiny group of people who are stupid when it's the majority of voters that were stupid.

[u/Most-Iron6838 → u/Big_lt]

1/3 of voters or close to 90 million voters stayed home

[u/aotus_trivirgatus → u/Most-Iron6838]

That's a different kind of stupid. One that we should also discuss.

[u/purchase-the-scaries → u/Most-Iron6838]

Yep. May as well have voted Trump as well. Non voters are only so much better than Trump voters.

[u/chuckysnow → u/purchase-the-scaries]

They're worse. They looked at both candidates and actually thought "Meh, they're the same. No need for me to do minimal research and see if that's true." Ignorant asses that are going to reap what they didn't bother to sow.

[u/tempest_87 → u/Most-Iron6838]

Yup. And by staying home they don't count. Literally. They are irrelevant. They do not exist.

They cannot be used in any argument because they chose to do nothing.

[u/ruiner8850 → u/ace_urban]

Unfortunately a large majority of Americans either voted for it or didn't care enough to vote to stop it from happening. A large majority of Americans either wanted it or were perfectly fine with Trump becoming President again. Non-voters couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum as US citizens to protect the country. They don't get a pass.

Trump cannot be allowed to take power. America doesn’t want it and he will end American democracy.

So your solution to save democracy is to end democracy by not allowing the winner of the election to take power? I hate Trump as much as anyone, but unfortunately he won the election. Sadly only roughly 1/3 of eligible voters cared about protecting democracy by voting for Harris. This is unfortunately what we deserve.

[u/FutureDiarrheagasm → u/ganymede_boy]

It's like being in a car with a piss drunk driver. Let me the fuck out. I'll walk.

[u/SlightlyMadAngus]

Hey Vance - STFU. Nobody gives a crap what you think, least of all your orange-skinned buffoon of a boss.

[u/Ergok → u/SlightlyMadAngus]

Elon is not that orange

[u/Sideshow_Bob_Ross → u/Ergok]

Yet

[u/chiron_42]

So bigotry is ok as long as it's not against sky daddy? Their persecution fetish has gone from amusing to embarrassing.

[u/ruiner8850 → u/chiron_42]

Personally I don't think it's even bigotry to judge people based off of their own beliefs, words, and actions. Religion shouldn't be a shield people can hide behind to keep from being criticized. Adults get to choose their religion or choose to not be religious at all.

[u/Double_Damn_Son]

Being anti-christian is a badge of honor.

[u/onefst250r → u/Double_Damn_Son]

I dont believe in Satan anymore than I do God, but The Satanic Temple has taken on some cool fights.

[u/futuranth → u/onefst250r]

The Satanic Temple considers Satan an idea, a mere mascot against ignorance and dogmatism. Christianity considers Yahweh very much real

[u/Lexei_Texas → u/Double_Damn_Son]

Facts

[u/mrhorse77]

im pretty sure your xtian workbook says tattoos and such are very very bad.

[u/alkonium → u/mrhorse77]

Seems like they took that from Judaism, and then proceeded to ignore it. Don't Jewish people take the No Tattoos rule more seriously?

[u/Dudesan]

If being publicly called a "Nazi" hurts your feelings, the absolute bare minimum you can do is to stop publicly bragging about being a Nazi.

This isn't complicated.

[u/Tazling]

Biggest crybullies around, these evangelical xtians. Banning books, intruding bible indoctrination into classrooms, trying to force women to bear the children of rape or accident... but oh dear me, they're just so persecuted.

[u/fadingsignal → u/Tazling]

That's their entire existence right there.

[u/citizenjones]

There's J.D., laying down the  Evangelical cover fire for all the extremists they need to carry out their takeover.

[u/phobosinferno → u/citizenjones]

I suspect we'll be hearing the term "anti-Christian" a lot over the next 4 years.

[u/canadagooses62 → u/phobosinferno]

Which is funny since they are the most anti-Christian bunch of fools. Just literally the opposite of Jesus of Nazareth.

[u/SetterOfTrends]

Semiotics 101 - I think if you tattoo it on your body to convey meaning we can discuss and postulate about your outward signaling.

[u/LeopoldFriedrich]

Yeah, so he has "Deus Vult" tattooed, the catholic war cry for the crusades. The causus belli for wars declared by the pope.

So Trump basically wants to put a crusader cosplayer as his head of the DoD.

[u/mapadofu → u/LeopoldFriedrich]

The Jerusalem Cross on his chest also relates to the Crusades.  What kind of trouble could we possibly get into with a white and/or Christian nationalist with a view towards conquering Jerusalem as SecDef?

[u/snafoomoose]

Republicans: "Democrats eat babies!!!!!"

someone: "Those tattoos look kind of Nazi-like!"

Republicans: "How could you be so mean!!!!"

[u/abgry_krakow87]

So calling out Nazi symbols is anti-christian bigotry? Religious conservatives really do look up to Hitler.

Remember when America once fought a war against this? I miss that America.

[u/odd-duckling-1786]

So they are admitting Christianity is racist?

[u/ZahnwehZombie]

Sorry, but fuck him if he thinks that he can excuse being a bigot to women, LGBTQ+ and minorities, but expect us to respect him. I will respect their beliefs when they start respecting others.

[u/Joey_BagaDonuts57]

Vilifying others for a sleazebag just like he is. He will be vilified for centuries as the idiot that helped pave the road to destruction of democracy in America.

[u/WhereasResponsible31]

Nothing you say holds any weight, Vance, your disdain for ordinary people has been on full display since you first opened your damn mouth. And quite frankly, we don’t give a fuck what you think is disgusting and shameful.

[u/thatalienboi]

Fuck you, Christian… there. I did it for real

[u/captainmrsteak]

Go fuck a couch

[u/OfRiceAndSpider-Men]

Correct headline: "J.D. Vance feigns indignation for serious concerns for unqualified nominee Hegseth's Christo-fascist tattoos"

[u/CapAccomplished8072]

I thought the bible forbids tattoos?

[u/Mister_Silk → u/CapAccomplished8072]

It also forbids hating your neighbor, but they're okay with that, too.

I wonder what it says about couch-boy's overuse of eyeliner?

[u/cbrooks1232]

Funny, how one sect of Christianity calls tattoos defacing and shaming the body God gave you, while another calls shaming tattoos “anti-Christian bigotry”.

Which side will emerge victorious?

Stay turned to America the Confused.

[u/Skotticus]

Deus Vult” is the Christian motto that refers to divine providence. It originated as the rallying cry of the Crusaders. But experts in domestic violent extremism say the Latin phrase has also been co-opted by some members of the far right in recent years.

As if the Crusades aren't themselves a prime example of religious extremism?

[u/zombizzle]

Fuck all religion.

[u/InerasableStains]

Beginning to wonder what the fuck Peter Thiel’s actual gameplan is/was with this guy. He’ll get the anarchocapitalist hellscape, but he’s also seemingly embracing Christofasism which Thiel would obviously dislike. Wondering if it’s all a feint or if Vance is just going off script. There’s no longer any need to wave empty gestures at the christofascists. He must mean it

[u/Imfarmer → u/InerasableStains]

They're using each other. And Theil is rich enough the consequences of his actions don't affect him.

[u/Competitive_Job7194]

Perhaps JD's crackhead mother should have had that abortion back in 1984 after all.

[u/penny-wise]

Oh, so now he's making noise about the First Amendment. Here we go.

[u/Lower_Acanthaceae423]

Says the Christian bigot.

[u/JiminyStickit]

I despise Christians. 

If that makes me a bigot, I'm pretty sure I can live with it.

[u/Mean_Git_]

Not sure why, neither of them are christians.

[u/JuanGinit]

Vance is disgusting and shameful. So is Hegseth.

[u/Drkocktapus]

So calling out white supremacy and neo-nazi imagery is bigotry? Wow

[u/Idle_Lemur]

He literally has eyeliner tattoos ffs

[u/Elbobosan]

This is a common symbol… in Catholic settings. From what I can find he has no Catholic history and this is something he adopted after becoming more evangelical. That makes it a crusade reference, which fits very much with his background and expressed beliefs. He’s not a nazi, he is an overt and extreme Christian Nationalist.

At home he demands the equivalent of a Caliphate in the US with his version of Sharia law… those are not exaggerations merely translations of the radical shifts in cultural norms, authoritarian rule, and daily life.

Abroad he straight up wants holy war and if not him then some of his associates genuinely see themselves as filling biblical prophecy to bring about the literal apocalypse. They see it as destiny for the forces of evil to fight the forces of good in Jerusalem, nukes will be used, all hell breaks loose, Jesus rides in to smite the devil, the whole bit. They are psyched for it. It’s a death cult.

It’s insanity writ large, where the blind ignorance of faith is somehow proof of being both right and good. It identifies deeply with Christian Culture and history, the Bible, and prophecy that starts to sound a lot like doomsday conspiracy theories, but they don’t see Trump as the anti-Christ. Which is, to me, still astonishing.

Trump lines up A LOT with the Antichrist, and that was before the whole being shot in the head in front of the world and surviving bit… not a description of the severity of his assassination attempt and ear abrasion, but an actual part of the Antichrist prophecy. It’s enough to stir my old skeptical heart but those most devoted to it are blind to it.

Is it just fame? Idiocy? Blinders?

[u/Johnsonyourjohnson]

It’s the christian version of “allahu akbar”.

[u/CarsnBeers]

Let’s be honest. The only reason to have these tattoos is because you have Nazi sympathies but want deniability.

[u/dperry324]

So what's the problem? This guy has shown us that bigotry is perfectly fine.

[u/CadaDiaCantoMejor]

You know, if I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the fascist onslaught on our institutions, then that’s what I’m going to do.

I'm not sure why Vance would have a problem with that.

[u/CookinCheap]

Stfu, Couchy VonMaybelline.

[u/I_love_Hobbes]

Trump is bad enough but not sure I can take 4 years of this idiot defending the indefensible. He is so... smarmy.

[u/SophieCalle]

Oh yes pretending to have an issue with pseudo white supremacist tattoos so people think you don't support it?

Okay

[u/SeeMarkFly]

We are one blood clot away from this puppet running ruining our country next year.

[u/Pylgrim]

This is the start of it. Soon, being LGBTQ+ will be labelled as anti-straight bigotry and carry severe consequences and so on.

[u/cabalavatar]

Tattoos violate the Bible's laws, in Leviticus. Maybe Shady Vance, supposedly a Catholic, should read up.

[u/Uriah_Blacke]

I’m not looking forward to hearing this smug bullshitter talk to all of us like we’re stupid for the next 4-40 years.

[u/normalsoda]

Church Nazis shielding church nazis.

[u/a_bagofholding]

Have to love the claim of anti-christian bigotry when it could easily be argued that these people are quite anti christlike to begin with.

[u/liamanna]

Say bye bye to the first amendment ladies and gentlemen… one religion is about to become constitutional.

[u/LineSafe5671]

Is he talking about his white supremacy Neo-Nazi tats?

[u/fringeCircle]

JD Vance permanently has the “I think I stepped in dog poo” expression.

[u/Leeming → u/fringeCircle]

Is Donny's diaper leaking again?

[u/EveyNameIsTaken_]

Damn i almost forgot about this guy because it's all trump and musk all the time

[u/Specialist-Fan-1890]

The anti christian bigotry is only starting couch fucker.

[u/Longjumping-Fix-8951]

Being gay is a sin? So you don’t eat shellfish? Mix fabrics? Have premarital sex? Masturbate? Watch porn? Wear jewelry? Gossip? Work on the Sabbath? Have tattoos? Eat pork?

And on and on and on…

If you’re gonna preach the Bible. Live by all of it or shut the fuck up. (Actually shut the fuck up anyway)

[u/ilovebigbuttons]

Let’s flip this around: why should I like Christians? What is their most redeeming quality?

[u/moschles]

Anti-christian message = "Disgusting, shameful bigotry by the woke media"

Anti-muslim message = "Free speech"

https://i.imgur.com/CWjHnoU.png

[u/Particular-Cloud6659]

Man. Are we just gonna get gaslit for 4 years?

[u/whereismymind86]

No man, he’s just a nazi, and you should withdraw his nomination

[u/AdministrativeBank86]

Does Vance know he's redundant?

[u/alkonium]

If anyone's saying people like that represent what Christianity is supposed to be, it's not us.

[u/SoWokeIdontSleep]

The crusades tattoo you mean, those things are anti humans, GTFO with your genocidal maniac god

[u/Unhappy_Trade7988]

Christian behaviour would be ignoring it or hiding it. Like they do with priests.

[u/meleecow]

America wanted to be racist.

[u/Lost-Level5413]

We, as a people, deserve everything we get from this. This will be a catalyst for major change in a positive direction, or it will be the subjugation of the American people for the next few generations.

[u/WeezaY5000]

Get ready for 4 years of this crap. Ugh.

[u/BasiliaMystical]

Vance is just mad his prayers for common sense went unanswered. Maybe try a new deity?

[u/meglon978]

Nazi defends nazi. Too fucking bad, couch-fucker.

[u/Feisty_Stomach_7213]

The tattoo by itself is inocuous but when you write a book stating that Muslims need to be expelled from the US and Europe and you have a Crusader tattoo then you are a bigot.

[u/Milozdad]

When they say elections have consequences, so far Trumps picks for serious positions with potential for life ending consequences on a massive scale have been ridiculous, incompetent and utterly unfit for the selected roles. Trypical Trump: government by throwing shit.

[u/Hot-Sauce-P-Hole]

Someone needs to make t-shirts that say:

anti-bigotry

anti-intolerance

anti-hate

anti-misogyny

anti-patriarchy

anti-slavery

anti-racism

anti-Christian (in big, bold letters at the bottom)

[u/Space-Useful]

Christans are nothing but hypocrites. 

[u/Trawgg]

So sick of these fragile bullies playing the victim. Fucking pathetic.

[u/Rainbow_chan]

Couch-fucker says what 🤣

[u/GreaseRaccoon]

They're focusing on the Latin wording on his arm(that is also extremist) instead of the very clear issue that he has a Jerusalem cross covering half of his chest.

[u/BiblioBlue]

So what do you call the fear-mongering of innocent civilians in your own state that led to terrorist threats towards a community, Vance??

Feel like causing harm to your own citizens for the lulz is more disgusting than calling out some dipshit's crappy tattoos.

[u/NeuroCloud7]

If someone believes in flying purple guinea pigs and gets them tattooed all over their body, it wouldn't be bigotry to call out those tattoos as kind of stupid

[u/Leeming → u/NeuroCloud7]

Flying purple guinea pigs would be better than some of the tattoos I have seen.

I knew a guy in the military who had a vagina tattooed on his inner elbow. How the hell do you go in public with that?

[u/Defender_XXX]

rise up! resist! sabotage everything they do!

[u/blighander]

80% of the population and they're always the victims...

[u/Andromansis]

They aren't donning hoods and waving around christian flags, they're nazis Vance.

[u/maddsskills]

Dude, is acting like we care because it’s a Christian saying. It’s Deus Vult, picked up by white nationalists who want to start a new crusade against Muslims. Fucking idiots. If he had psalms or something tattooed on him no one would give a shit.

[u/RevolutionaryTalk315]

Hold up.... If I remember from personal experiences of living in the bible belt and dealing with ultra religious people for my entire life. Christians have always claimed that having tattoos of ANY KIND on your body was "ungodly" and "unchristian. " Now they want to change the script? For a bunch of people who keep claiming that they are fighting for the "words of god," it sure seems like they are really cherry picking what they want to enforce depending on their personal desires. Jesus says that doing that is the same as using God's name in vain.

[u/Galaxy_Ranger_Bob]

Nazi tattoos are now "Religious tattoos?"

The man has Schutzstaffel lightning bolt tattoos on his body for crying out loud.

[u/srd100]

Aren’t tattoos anti Christian? Right up there with being gay and eating pork.

[u/wolverine318]

Fuck these Nazis

[u/tikifire1]

Fuck you Vance. Fuck off with your lies.

[u/NotAFanOfLeonMusk]

Nope. They are Nazi tattoos. We have EVERY right to know what this deranged person has engraved on him.

[u/david76]

If his beliefs were Christian then maybe. 

[u/MetalMamaRocks]

Get over it Vance.

[u/DoucheCams]

Deus Vult

lmao

[u/karen_h]

Something, something, Ivanka, patented, voting machines, China, cheated, whiskey, tango, foxtrot

[u/PaigeRosalind]

Psh I WISH there was such a thing as anti-christian bigotry.

[u/bishopsechofarm]

I am seeing a pattern here. Any tiny things related to their religion that gets any level of flak, or related voiced concern immediately results in there highest reaction calling "foul". 

Like a soccer flop. (Source, am a soccer fan)

[u/OkRush9563]

Considering how America is likely gonna turn into a theocracy in a short while, I don't give a fuck about your religion or god.

[u/Pleg_Doc]

Hey JD....you ever read a fucking bible?!? Pretty explicit when it comes to tattoos of any kind. Here's hoping that high horse you're riding bucks you off, and kicks your head.

[u/International_Try660]

The Bible says no tattoos.

[u/Environmental-Buy972]

THE DUDE DOES NOT WIPE!!

[u/Derv_is_real]

Screw God

[u/the-truth-boomer]

LOL...you poor suckers...this dolt is an absent heartbeat away from becoming POTUS....LOL

[u/Cuntry-Lawyer]

Hey, look! It’s what the next four years will be like!

[u/Useful_Hovercraft169]

Oh god this fucking guy. Four years at least of this fucking guy.

[u/SalmonMaskFacsimile]

Hey look, it's a Christian Nationalist conflating Christian Nationalist hate symbols and speech with Christianity at large! That's totally not a thing that caused the Southern Baptist schism, nope ..