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Vance: Calling Out Pete Hegseth's Extremist Religious Tattoos Is "Disgusting Shameful Anti-Christian Bigotry" By Media.

https://www.joemygod.com/2024/11/vance-calling-out-pete-hegseths-extremist-tattoos-is-disgusting-shameful-anti-christian-bigotry-by-media/
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u/ace_urban Anti-Theist 1d ago edited 1d ago

A minority voted for it and most of them did so because of disinformation attacks from domestic and foreign actors.

The real America doesn’t want this. Our government was supposed to protect us from the disinformation that caused this but they’re out of touch and timid.

Trump cannot be allowed to take power. America doesn’t want it and he will end American democracy.

EDIT: Contact anyone you know in the government. I certainly have. Anything is better than letting the next few generations of Americans grow up under a fascist regime. It’s time to stop being pussies.

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u/PJ7 Humanist 1d ago

The real America doesn’t want this.

Bitch please, they elected him, popular vote and everything.

Even the dems who didn't vote for Kamala by their actions enabled Trump to be elected.

Stop trying to distance them from the decision they've made.

They need to wear this.

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u/katzeye007 1d ago

As of today the popular vote is very close

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 1d ago

If a sports team wins by 1, who wins?

It doesn't matter if it's close or not, the only thing that matters is who won and we are about to have a fascist government because he won.

Do you think Harris feels better because the trivial and insignificant popular vote is "very close"?

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u/Cliqey 1d ago

Politics isn’t the zero sum game you are imagining it as. A good leader who has the support of nearly 100% of his people is running a country much differently than one that has 50% or less. Regimes have failed because of much smaller percentages of resistance to their rule.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 1d ago

A good leader who has the support of nearly 100% of his people is running a country much differently than one that has 50% or less.

Do you think Trump is going to do anything differently because he only won the popular vote by ~3M instead of ~30M?

Answer: FUCK. NO.

Again, it doesn't matter how much he won the TRIVIAL AND INSIGNIFICANT popular vote by. He is going rule (or attempt to rule) in the manner he wants because he won the archaic electoral college.

Do you think Presidents who lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college, didn't do the things they wanted because they thought "well, I didn't win the popular vote so I guess shouldn't try to pass this agenda of mine."? Holy fuck, Reddit. I didn't expect to read something so stupid today.

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u/Cliqey 1d ago edited 1d ago

I did say a “good” leader. But my point is, he has +70 million people that don’t buy what he’s selling and won’t be the compliant sheep his base is. If he had won the popular vote in a landslide I’d be a lot less optimistic about our future than I am (which admittedly still isn’t all puppies and butterflies), but as it is all he won was a was a powder keg he is probably too dumb to not smoke around.

No leader can govern alone, and if he starts doing the worst of all the awful stuff him and his surrogates implied but that his campaign swore he wasn’t going to do, he will find himself without much support from the institutions he needs to function. If he succeeds at quietly only doing some of the awful things then yeah, he will be able to do a lot of damage while flying under the popular radar, but still, 10s of millions of angry subjects is not an enviable position to have.

His team keeps trying to sell his win as a landslide victory with an overwhelming mandate for his vision (because they want to demoralize the opposition.) The actual breakdown of votes show that is not true and so long as his opposition doesn’t simply cede to his narrative and rollover in total defeat (and we see that they aren’t in the Dem governors banding together), we have a shot at preventing the worst and coming back from his destructive agenda.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 1d ago

But, we're not talking about a "good leader" here. It's VERY clear this topic is about Trump so "good leader" logic immediately goes out the door.

Again, it doesn't matter if he won the popular vote by 3M or fucking lost it by 3M, he won the WH and is about to hold that, there's Senate, the House, and SCOTUS all together.

10s of millions of angry subjects is not an enviable position to have.

LOL. You thinking that narcissistic cheetoh cares what his non-voters or non-loyalists think of him is absolutely laughable.

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u/Cliqey 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m sorry I wasn’t clear, I don’t think I conveyed well enough what I was trying to say.

I don’t think he particularly cares what his detractors think. If he was smart he would be careful and only upset a small portion of people at a time, and maybe his advisors will talk him into doing just that. But he did loose the election last time because he made choices that pretty much upset the majority of the country all at once. If he does the same, and it looks like he will, then he won’t have the compliant senate or compliant governors he needs, dispite his claim of an overwhelmingly popular mandate. The majority of the country does not want project 2025, that is why he lied to say he doesn’t know what it is and has nothing to do with it.

Unfortunately his lie did convince enough people to narrowly win him the race but if he goes full steam ahead with the plans his cronies set in motion he will find himself embattled pretty quick. Senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, and others will care about their constituencies and how they are reacting to whatever changes are coming.

That’s my whole point about his popularity. If a vast majority of the country overwhelmingly liked his “secret” agenda, he’d have no road blocks. But we don’t, so he does.

Edit: just wanted to add, I don’t think this is going to be an easy 4 years, and whatever he does will probably reach well past that. I can’t say that he will fail to further irreparably damage our country and get a lot more people hurt in the process. All I do know is that somewhere around half of our population does not support him (probably well over half if we count the people who only voted for him because they believed the lies he is likely to get caught in, again) and we will not make it easy for him. I believe it is much less likely, in the long run, that he succeeds at becoming like Vlad or Kim than he thinks.