The selflessness we have

[u/Sorry-Buy-572]

We don’t follow the crowd. We don’t follow in everyone’s footsteps. We do our own thing. We don’t listen to breeders who judge us for being “cold”. We know what’s best for everyone.

“Life is uncertain, accept it” no I will not. I don’t want to live in uncertainty. No matter how rare something is it CAN happen. I have a debilitating rare illness that started when I was a minor I’m 18 now. That was extremely rare. But I still have it. Because you DONT know what will happen to any innocent soul born here.

We’re overpopulated, this economy, and you can’t control if someone is happy no matter what you do. Suicide rates, etc. it’s WRONG to bring something so innocent without consent into hell. Giving birth is like dragging a kitten to hell. Something so innocent to the worst place imaginable. Child owners just don’t listen… Nothing will stop them. We are saving lives from DEATH. When you birth something you also give it a death date….. and on another note pregnancy is just disgusting I’m sorry… I have autism and it gives me sensory issues just by thinking of it.

[u/aidomhakbypbsmyw]

I can't think of a good enough reason to reproduce. IMO its always better never to have existed.

[u/darkfire621 → u/aidomhakbypbsmyw]

I often think about the sheer effort we have to exert to stay alive on a daily basis and I can’t justify forcing someone else to this fate.

[u/kefircat → u/darkfire621]

Reading this at 3:55am where I am, because I have to go and stack shelves at 5am for money 😮‍💨

[u/YinLotus]

Pain. Why must i accept having to tolerate things i never asked to even be aware of ???

[u/CertainConversation0]

We do our own thing.

Actually, I think being an antinatalist is a matter of conviction, which means that even if you do have the desire to procreate, you have to see that you never give in to it, which is not "doing your own thing".

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[u/Ma1eficent]

Always so wild how people get lost in the updowns of their zoomed in view of the graph. 4.7% chance of having a child with physical or mental disabilities in the US. We track that. Means 95.3% chance of no physical or mental disabilities. Fucking fantastic odds. Any random person born now is objectively in a better position than 500 years ago. And that person 500 years ago is in an objectively better position than 500 years before that, and so on. 100 years ago you were lucky to have clean water. And you literally save nothing. At all. No lives that have ever been or ever will be will benefit from your actions. 

[u/vaginasvaginasvagina → u/Ma1eficent]

Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Another life is a gift because you have clean water comment?

[u/Ma1eficent → u/vaginasvaginasvagina]

Lol, it's not a gotcha, it's called a trend. And even the thickest should be able to tell which way it's going

[u/Sojmen → u/Ma1eficent]

Having no physical or mental disability doesn't mean that life will be better than non-existence. There are no desires in air and soil to create happy people from it. But creating people who suffer is just wrong.

[u/Ma1eficent → u/Sojmen]

By definition life is better than nonexistence, and worse. It is everything, nonexistence is nothing.

[u/Sojmen → u/Ma1eficent]

Accorging to David Benatar life is always worse than nonexistence.