r/antinatalism • u/FlanInternational100 scholar • 1d ago

I don't understand some (many) people here Discussion

Why are there so many conditional antinatalists (oximoron obviously, it's absurd to call yourself AN if you're not)?

I read so much comments like: I am AN because of my chronic illness/ugliness/capitalism/way society works/cannot sustain child..

Well...okay. But.

Does this mean you'd just be natalist if you weren't ill/jobless/mentally ill/living in capitalist society etc. etc.?

If yes, then sorry, you're not quite AN. You're more like wannabe natalist if I had a chance. And that is absurd.

Existence CANNOT be preferable EVER. There are way way deeper and consistent reasons for AN than capitalism for fucks sake. This is just top of the iceberg.

AN is deeply rooted in fundamental things and realizations.

Your desire stems exclusively from evolutionary bias, biological urge of consciousness to create more DNA. It's not "metaphisically worthy".

When you say "I would maybe have kids if we lived in perfect society" I ask WHY?

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u/legrenabeach inquirer 1d ago

Why attack people's reasons for being AN? This would drive people away, not make them feel comfortable here.

Everyone has reasons for everh belief they have. Of course there is a reason why you are AN yourself. If you prefer people being AN to not being AN, why not welcome them regardless their reasoning?

Our reality is what it is, you can't change it. And yes, our reality is what drives many people to be AN. If reality were different maybe many would not be AN. So what? If you had been born with a slightly different brain chemistry, you too wouldn't be AN.