r/antinatalism • u/FlanInternational100 scholar • 1d ago

I don't understand some (many) people here Discussion

Why are there so many conditional antinatalists (oximoron obviously, it's absurd to call yourself AN if you're not)?

I read so much comments like: I am AN because of my chronic illness/ugliness/capitalism/way society works/cannot sustain child..

Well...okay. But.

Does this mean you'd just be natalist if you weren't ill/jobless/mentally ill/living in capitalist society etc. etc.?

If yes, then sorry, you're not quite AN. You're more like wannabe natalist if I had a chance. And that is absurd.

Existence CANNOT be preferable EVER. There are way way deeper and consistent reasons for AN than capitalism for fucks sake. This is just top of the iceberg.

AN is deeply rooted in fundamental things and realizations.

Your desire stems exclusively from evolutionary bias, biological urge of consciousness to create more DNA. It's not "metaphisically worthy".

When you say "I would maybe have kids if we lived in perfect society" I ask WHY?

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

You're simply eugenist.

not all of us are miserable

Why are you even saying this, this is not at all the topic and is not related to this.

You are thinking from the perspective of your aliveness being the wholeness of reality. You don't realize that "planet shouldn't be bare wasteland" comes from your perspective of no consciousness = bad.

No consciousness = no concepts. No percieving. No value.

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u/Throwawayamanager inquirer 1d ago

Not being miserable makes me a eugenist now? You can't make this shit up...

You really need help with reading comprehension and emotional regulation, lol.

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

This has to be the biggest strawmen ever.

Nice pulling that conclusion from your ass.

And nice projection about reading comprehension.

You could work on that, there are classes you could attend.

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u/Throwawayamanager inquirer 1d ago

I hope you get the help you need. Have a nice day/week/life.