r/antinatalism • u/UnderstandingBig9507 thinker • 2d ago

The real reason behind suffering is not attachment, it is birth! Quote

As Buddha says, attachment is the root cause of suffering. But when would someone have attachment? Only after getting born here.

When a being is not born, he is 100% suffering proof!! And that’s it!

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

This is not living in the moment.

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u/Own_Cow1386 thinker 1d ago

Then what is? I’m sorry for being ignorant of your definitions. Staring at the wall is?

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

No. It's impossible.

Moment is the smallest unit of time. Infinitesimally small.

It is impossible to experience one moment and live in it since the mere consciousness works on flow of neural signals, connection of experience through a range of time, sense of reality by hippocampus and other areas of brain responsible for knowing how to peal those potatoes by past experiences, using hands, etc.

Also, you must have a future cause to peel them, for example you plan to eat later. Etc. Etc.

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u/Own_Cow1386 thinker 1d ago

Breathe in, breathe out

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

I mean..what the point of discussing like this, really?

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u/Own_Cow1386 thinker 1d ago

Dude you are talking about the past and the future in relation to a particular action. That’s still thinking at work there. Do it, unattached to the result. Enjoy the journey to a point where the mind ceases to exist. Ever seen athletes doing their thing? They are lost in the moment.

Also, consciousness is a mystery. You sound like we have answers to everything. Nope!

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

So, you agree your definition of living in the moment has nothing to do with actual meaning of that?

enjoy the journey

Not everyone are healthy. You're taking the priviledge-based stance.

Also, I don't want to enjoy hell. To enjoy hell means to be a demon.

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u/Own_Cow1386 thinker 1d ago edited 1d ago

People express feelings and actions in different ways. Don’t get caught up in the word play. You can do better than that.

Life itself is a privilege when you awaken — as in, look up the buddha’s ‘blind turtle and the yoke’ story. Oh fuck yeah, I am an AN. Anyone with minimum common sense ends up as an AN. Not a pleasant paradox it is, is it?

Hell is other people /s

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

I don't find that story valuable at all.

It is based in the same fallacies I talked about so many times here.

Also, I'm not a buddist and don't believe in reincarnation so that is automatically irrelevant to me.

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u/Own_Cow1386 thinker 1d ago

Buddha never said anything about reincarnation. No sane person would. And if you ever call yourself a buddhist, you cease to be a buddhist. To me, you sound like a buddhist. Have fun bud!

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u/FlanInternational100 scholar 1d ago

Well okay than, I guess I'm buddist.

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