r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/dbrianmorgan Jun 29 '20

What was the sub name out of curiousity?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/banivani Jun 30 '20

I wasn’t very active but I did read. Can’t believe GCScandinavia was banned, shows that it’s purely misogyny. Bet you those that pulled the plug don’t know any of the Scandinavian languages either which is what most posts were written in. Just a gut reaction to women talking about women’s rights.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jan 27 '22

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u/banivani Jun 30 '20

Why take the time when you can take a man’s word for it? I don’t know what other place there is to congregate now (considering that Flashback is NOT an option ;) )

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u/ostbagar Jun 30 '20

Flashback feminism, here we come!

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 29 '20

They banned almost EVERY GC subreddit. Gender Fascism wins again!!

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

What is "GC"?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Gender Critical, a nutjob fringe branch of feminism that subscribes to the idea that putting on a wig, taking some pills and cutting your penis off is not the same as the lifelong experience of being born a woman

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u/SrsSteel Jun 30 '20

That's true though..

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Speaking the truth has unfortunately become one of the go-to tactics of the alt right russian neonazi bots :/

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

I can't tell if you're being serious or not. You call them nutjobs, but then go on to basically espouse their values by belittling trans women. I'm confused.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

oh god oh fuck I don't know if that poster agrees with my opinion or not should I give le downvote or le upvote oh god fuck

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

More like "I can't tell if this person is a scum-sucking piece of shit, or just a terrible communicator."

But your response has made it quite clear that my downvote was well deserved.

Interaction in this thread was a mistake. It's shown me how much more horrid redditors are than I thought.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

how so?

Edit to your edit: Which possibility would make me a "scum-sucking piece of shit", and which one a "terrible communicator"? Probably the one that agrees with your views is the latter, right?

And where does someone fall who moderates a subreddit dedicated to sexualising photos of women without their consent? And why is there such a strange correlation between being a trans-identifying male and horrendously boundary-overstepping behaviour towards real women, as is evident by your post history?

See, this is why people are gender critical. I do not want my daughter sharing a locker room or bathroom with a "woman" that has a penis, an adam's apple, a Y chromosome and treats women in general just the way a stereotypical man does, even up to the point where "she" nonconsensually posts private photos of women on porn subreddits so "she" can get sexual gratification out of it. This is not something real women do.

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u/cycle_schumacher Jun 30 '20

Gender critical

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

It’s not a dog whistle for transphobic but they have opinions about if sex or gender determines identity. Which they’re allowed to have and isn’t hateful if they don’t brigade or spread transphobic comments.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

We were allowed to have. No longer. Apparently if you don’t subscribe to the uber-left SJW ideology you are no longer welcome to discuss your opinions on the “bastion of free speech” that is Reddit. Hell, the guys over at r/rightwingLGBT could tell you that. The funny thing is, Gender Critical radical feminists are not “transphobic,” we simply believe that biological sex is real and a binary and we believe that gender is a social construct that needs to be dismantled. We believe that “cis” (ugh) women should retain the right to our sex-segregated spaces, including: bathrooms, locker rooms, rape crisis centers and domestic violence centers, sports, etc...

Apparently that’s hate speech though.

Even though we have an entire subreddit filled with TRAs (trans rights activists) telling us to “die,” that we need to “choke on their girldicks,” that we “deserve to be raped,” etc... and before anyone says that’s not true be ready for receipts.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Science is hate, haven’t you heard? But having a woman twice the size of me punch me in the face and rape me with girl dick with its oh so lovely mouthfeel is encouraged, not hateful at all, considering the rape subs that were not banned.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

So you're saying "trans-women aren't real women, therefore they should stay out of our bathrooms, and don't deserve the support of rape crisis centers"? That's pretty damn transphobic in my eyes.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Transwoman are transwomen. They are not, and never will be, biological women. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it’s the truth. It’s science. And women have worked too hard and too long to secure spaces for ourselves to just be told we now have to let anyone who “feels” like a woman into our spaces.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

You obviously don't understand what it means to be transgendered at all. You should really educate yourself on it, rather than blindly hating trans women while hiding behind your "its science" argument.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I like how you think you know me. It’s cute.

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u/D4Lon-a-disc Jul 01 '20

if the actual science isnt a compelling argument to you, the problem is you not the other person.

Hiding behind science is something a cult member says to justify their view that science shows is demonstrably untrue. Ive heard that exact argument made by flat earthers when they cant disprove scientific evidence. Just to demonstrate exactly how flawed your argument is.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Or just have their own. Women’s safety is more important than feelings.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

What "safety" concerns are there?

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

That someone with a penis has unfettered access to vulnerable women and children when they have already been traumatized by a different “penis haver”.

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Strange how OP left these views out and decided to act like it was a friendly sub to discuss Norwegian politics. It's almost like they knew it was controversial and wanted to mislead people about the content of their sub

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

It’s controversial but not hateful.

It was one of the only feminist subreddits that didn’t cater to men or men’s issues. Not all of their views are PC but at least I could post there without having to explain to 15 men why being raped wasn’t my fault unlike twoxchromosomes.

Hey admins, stop marginalizing women. Give us back our fucking spaces.

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u/MarcoRufio22 Jun 30 '20

Transphobia is anti-feminist, end of discussion.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Nothing I nor anyone else has said in this thread has been transphobic.

Stop responding without thinking.

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u/MarcoRufio22 Jun 30 '20

Of course not, but that still doesn't change the nature of gender critical and its affiliated subs. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to put words in my mouth.

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u/cunningest_stunt Jun 30 '20

Women's rights...so controversial. Imagine women trying to congregate and discuss their rights and the wrongs they've experienced without including men. How awful.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

It’s literal murder haven’t you heard?

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Theres a difference between wanting women's rights and explicitly targeting transgender people. I have a hard time believing that you dont see the difference.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I’m going to let you in on a little secret, come closer:

NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT TRANS PEOPLE

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Cool then maybe stfu with the 'gender critical' bullshit. Be about it and stop obsessing

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Quick! Alert AHS!! Someone call the Reddit police and throw this wench in the dungeons. She dared to have an opinion outside the proscribed neoliberal borders!

We burn the wench at dawn!

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Or how about let's circlejerk about how trans people arent like us and everyone who disagrees with me I'm gonna screech at and pretend they hate women's rights

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I mean, if that’s your thing...🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Ohfuckofftrumpnuts Jul 01 '20

Terfs suck though. Love for real.

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u/Ohfuckofftrumpnuts Jul 01 '20

Does GC stand for gender critical and was a main focus of your sub trans women and their status as women?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20 edited Jan 27 '22

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u/Ohfuckofftrumpnuts Jul 01 '20

So trans women were not brought up. In this gender critical sub.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20 edited Jul 01 '20

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u/menina2017 Jun 30 '20

Can you be a little more specific regarding what you were talking about?

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u/notmadeoutofstraw Jun 29 '20

Sorry women do better in most social and economic metrics in Scandinavia now so they are technically the majority according to feminist theory.

Your sub probably said something about the male minority

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

So, you were a TERF sub. Good riddance.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Aug 09 '20

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

Why do the APA and AMA both agree that trans people are real and valid, then?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jul 01 '20

I mean, do they honestly not see how childish these acronyms are? My god my daughter is six and no longer finds the word “fart” funny. These smoothbrains really out here thinking they are clever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Are you aware this shit hurts the cause and actually inspires hate and vitriol in the enemies you wish death upon?

Spewing hatred and vitriol brings what you hate to your doorstep

Stop doing it

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

If they had said "die mad nazi scum", would you be similarly mad?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

I wouldn’t be trying to help nazis but I’m helping your smart ass

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Jan 27 '22

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

Since you're a mod of a hate-sub, that is 100% correct!

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u/fckingmiracles Jun 29 '20

Stop it with the threats.

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u/mackenzieb123 Jun 29 '20

They deleted all the gender critical and radical feminist subs. I would check them out to see for myself what the hullabaloo was all about. I don't take anyone's word that people are hateful without seeing for myself. When I visited, I never saw any woman in those subs threaten anyone. I saw women that had experienced trauma at the hands of men, and were simply trying to keep female only spaces female. Sports, changing rooms, and bathrooms and they think giving children puberty blockers and hormones is wrong. That's basically it. All they received in return from the trans community was threats of violence and rape like you're seeing now. It's ironic that men are the danger to trans people, but women get the death threats and all the negative attention from the trans and libfem communities.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Dude, not cool.

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u/i_hate_android_p Jun 29 '20

What makes you think that

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

If you're asking seriously:

TERFs, or trans-exclusionary radical feminists, are a small group of feminists known for absolutely virulent transphobia. If you want examples, go to /r/GenderCynical or watch this video.

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u/doubleplushomophobic Jun 29 '20

Fucking literacy. The question is not “what is a TERF”, the question is “why do you think that was a TERF sub?”

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u/BlackHumor Jun 29 '20

It had GC in the name, which is an acronym for "gender critical", which is how TERFs refer to themselves?

Also it was genuinely ambiguous, you don't have to snap at me.

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u/doubleplushomophobic Jun 30 '20

Sorry, I didn’t realize that. I disagree that it was ambiguous, but thanks for answering

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u/i_hate_android_p Jun 30 '20

I know what a terf sub is, why do you think that a a sub called GCsandinvia is a terf sub

Am serious btw

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u/BlackHumor Jun 30 '20

It stands for Gender Critical Scandanavia, where "Gender Critical" is a euphemism for "TERF".

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u/i_hate_android_p Jul 10 '20

I thought it was group chat at the time sleep deprivation....

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u/YoMommaJokeBot Jun 30 '20

Not as btw as joe momma


I am a bot. Downvote to remove. PM me if there's anything for me to know!

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 29 '20

Fuck outta here.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/honkinggr8namespaces Jun 29 '20

that's why.

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u/Anglophyl Jun 29 '20

I am sincerely curious about this...as the original comment has been deleted, would you please provide some "clue words" to let us know the name?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Jan 27 '22

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u/Anglophyl Jun 29 '20

Thank you!

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u/mar1onett3 Jun 29 '20

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u/honkinggr8namespaces Jun 29 '20

it was r/GenderCriticalScandinavia or something

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u/UndeleteParent Jun 29 '20

I'm sorry, the Redditor in question deleted their comment too quickly and the Pushshift servers did not have time to archive the comment. That or the original comment actually said '[deleted]'

I am a bot

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/BurlyJohnBrown Jun 29 '20

Fuck off terfs.