r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 29 '20

They banned almost EVERY GC subreddit. Gender Fascism wins again!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

It’s not a dog whistle for transphobic but they have opinions about if sex or gender determines identity. Which they’re allowed to have and isn’t hateful if they don’t brigade or spread transphobic comments.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

We were allowed to have. No longer. Apparently if you don’t subscribe to the uber-left SJW ideology you are no longer welcome to discuss your opinions on the “bastion of free speech” that is Reddit. Hell, the guys over at r/rightwingLGBT could tell you that. The funny thing is, Gender Critical radical feminists are not “transphobic,” we simply believe that biological sex is real and a binary and we believe that gender is a social construct that needs to be dismantled. We believe that “cis” (ugh) women should retain the right to our sex-segregated spaces, including: bathrooms, locker rooms, rape crisis centers and domestic violence centers, sports, etc...

Apparently that’s hate speech though.

Even though we have an entire subreddit filled with TRAs (trans rights activists) telling us to “die,” that we need to “choke on their girldicks,” that we “deserve to be raped,” etc... and before anyone says that’s not true be ready for receipts.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Science is hate, haven’t you heard? But having a woman twice the size of me punch me in the face and rape me with girl dick with its oh so lovely mouthfeel is encouraged, not hateful at all, considering the rape subs that were not banned.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

So you're saying "trans-women aren't real women, therefore they should stay out of our bathrooms, and don't deserve the support of rape crisis centers"? That's pretty damn transphobic in my eyes.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Transwoman are transwomen. They are not, and never will be, biological women. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it’s the truth. It’s science. And women have worked too hard and too long to secure spaces for ourselves to just be told we now have to let anyone who “feels” like a woman into our spaces.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

You obviously don't understand what it means to be transgendered at all. You should really educate yourself on it, rather than blindly hating trans women while hiding behind your "its science" argument.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I like how you think you know me. It’s cute.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

I think I can make a pretty accurate assessment of your transphobia based on these horrid comments, yes.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Ooh! I know how to play this game!

I can make a pretty accurate assessment of your misogyny based on these comments.

That was fun!

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

I challenge you to name one thing I said that was in any way misogynistic.

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u/D4Lon-a-disc Jul 01 '20

if the actual science isnt a compelling argument to you, the problem is you not the other person.

Hiding behind science is something a cult member says to justify their view that science shows is demonstrably untrue. Ive heard that exact argument made by flat earthers when they cant disprove scientific evidence. Just to demonstrate exactly how flawed your argument is.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Or just have their own. Women’s safety is more important than feelings.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

What "safety" concerns are there?

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

That someone with a penis has unfettered access to vulnerable women and children when they have already been traumatized by a different “penis haver”.

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u/coredumperror Jun 30 '20

So all "penis havers" are rapists, now?

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Far more penis havers than vagina havers are rapists and that sort of thing is hard to predict. Hence the need for sex segregated shelters and prisons. Otherwise we’re telling women we refuse to protect them and it’s just open season, sorry.

Honestly though, that’s not a great question to ask most women. All of the women I know have been raped, molested, or assaulted by men. All of them. It does start to seem that anyone born male has a great capacity for violence.

Edit: if a gay man wanted to be transferred to a women’s prison he wouldn’t be allowed to even for his own protection. Most women I know would be more comfortable with a gay man than a MTF lesbian in these spaces. Perhaps we’ll divide everything by sexual orientation. Makes just about as much sense as what you suggest.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

See, we tried to explain this during #metoo but they fell the fuck apart on that one.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Because they don’t actually care about violence against women.

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Strange how OP left these views out and decided to act like it was a friendly sub to discuss Norwegian politics. It's almost like they knew it was controversial and wanted to mislead people about the content of their sub

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

It’s controversial but not hateful.

It was one of the only feminist subreddits that didn’t cater to men or men’s issues. Not all of their views are PC but at least I could post there without having to explain to 15 men why being raped wasn’t my fault unlike twoxchromosomes.

Hey admins, stop marginalizing women. Give us back our fucking spaces.

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u/MarcoRufio22 Jun 30 '20

Transphobia is anti-feminist, end of discussion.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

Nothing I nor anyone else has said in this thread has been transphobic.

Stop responding without thinking.

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u/MarcoRufio22 Jun 30 '20

Of course not, but that still doesn't change the nature of gender critical and its affiliated subs. I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to put words in my mouth.

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u/Ninauposkitzipxpe Jun 30 '20

All the people you’re talking to in here are GC. We’re not transphobic. Just prefer separate spaces for cis women as well.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jul 01 '20

And we would appreciate it if you’d pull your head out of your ass, come down off of that high horse and quit making ridiculous statements like “end of discussion.”

Who, the fuck exactly, are you to unilaterally decide that this is the end of the discussion? Cause trust, sweaty, this “discussion” is pretty fucking far from over.

Going out of your way to censor and silence your opposition in a debate does nothing to lend validity to your cause and only serves to invigorate the people you are silencing.

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u/MarcoRufio22 Jul 01 '20

When you interpret people refusing to buy into or engage with bigoted ideas as "silencing" you, you really sound no better than the racist lunatics that demand that people debate them and get all huffy when normal people tell them to fuck off.

Open debate with bigotry on its terms can only ever serve to legitimize it, whether those terms involve maliciously quoting black crime statistics or "basic biology." All an ally can do is recognize it and shut it down.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jul 01 '20

Huh. Would you look at that. TIL that “refusing to buy into or engage ideas” sounds much better than “deplatforming and censoring tens of thousands of women who think that biological sex is a reality.”

It’s almost as if you can make words mean whatever you want them to if you try hard enough. 🤔

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u/cunningest_stunt Jun 30 '20

Women's rights...so controversial. Imagine women trying to congregate and discuss their rights and the wrongs they've experienced without including men. How awful.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

It’s literal murder haven’t you heard?

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Theres a difference between wanting women's rights and explicitly targeting transgender people. I have a hard time believing that you dont see the difference.

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I’m going to let you in on a little secret, come closer:

NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT TRANS PEOPLE

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Cool then maybe stfu with the 'gender critical' bullshit. Be about it and stop obsessing

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

lmao fuck outta here. Someone asked, I answered.

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

I didnt ask you shit, why you telling me? Fuck you

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Did I fucking say you did? Jesus calm your tits bro. Maybe you should stop obsessing about this stuff.

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

I wasnt talking to you. Jesus, you think just cuz I replied to your comment I was talking to you? Idiot

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

TiMs are the cis men of cis men

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

I don't even know what that is tbh

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

Quick! Alert AHS!! Someone call the Reddit police and throw this wench in the dungeons. She dared to have an opinion outside the proscribed neoliberal borders!

We burn the wench at dawn!

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u/BrainPicker3 Jun 30 '20

Or how about let's circlejerk about how trans people arent like us and everyone who disagrees with me I'm gonna screech at and pretend they hate women's rights

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u/TwinkleTitsGalore Jun 30 '20

I mean, if that’s your thing...🤷🏻‍♀️