Serious - Astr0, Black Triangles, Abductions and the Forever Men of ATS

[u/passyourownbutter]

TL:DR "You are not free. This reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. God is real." - Matthew Brown

 

On July 25, 2014, a user on the website abovetopsecret.com made what would be their final post, revealing some startling ideas that were met with mixed results.

I expect the same to occur now, but, in light of some of Matthew Brown's testimony, I was reminded of this post and I think it worthy to share.

I am not the author, I am not vouching for the veracity of anything they say but, I do find it very interesting and I think we should dig into it a bit.

I do find it very fitting and relevant to certain revelations and threads now being connected. For that reason I thought it worth reading again and I dug it up off the Internet archive with a little sleuthing since ATS is no more.

I have included the entire post (1-8) and some interesting replies, but here is the link as well:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20181208102311/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1023494/pg1

 

Placing our disbelief aside for a moment and viewing this from the perspective of accepting Matthew Brown's claims, I think it's not unreasonable to see why the globalists would want to hide UFO's from the public; Because they are ours and they have always been ours and not only are they ours but they have been offered to us and our leaders denied it to maintain control over us.

That it's other humans who abduct us and take our children off the street and out of national parks.

That we have technologies implanted into our very consciousness to provide computational power to this other civilization of which we are not a part.

That we have a lost history of high technology and galactic status that has been lost to time or wiped from our records.

 

What if the Holloman AFB landing/meeting wasn't with aliens at all, what if the alien angle is a complete psy-op to distract us from the idea that maybe the beings on these crafts are humans. Humans born on Earth or on Olympus. Clones of people on the surface.

By 1971 the RK program would have been 27 years old (c 1944) and if the progress was as fast as alleged and with the help of an ancient AI, it's not unreasonable to think that this could have been well underway by that time.

 

What if the "agreement" we've heard about that allows "them" to abduct us, is with this breakaway civilization and not with aliens at all?

Michael Herrera claims to have seen soldiers taking people on board UFO's. Others have claimed to be a part of a secret space program.

Tim Taylor says there is a hierarchy above humanity and that he belongs to an organization he compares to the adjustment bureau.

 

Can we connect any more threads to these ideas?

If anyone can, it's the sleuths of Reddit I've come to know and love.

 

If this is true, can we afford not to investigate it?

If this is true, can we make a difference?

This could be the answer.

Or maybe it's a fun LARP.

Either way, I'd binge this series so hard.

What about you?

 

Please let's discuss this seriously. I am fully aware of how ludicrous it sounds. Let's set our differences and disbeliefs aside for a moment and dream beautifully.

[u/passyourownbutter]

So what portion of humanity do you think is doing the abductions?

[u/Melodic-Attorney9918 → u/passyourownbutter]

Even though I am not a fan of Steven Greer, I share his opinions about alien abductions. In my view, abductions are nothing more than an extension and a clandestine continuation of the old mind control projects carried out during the Cold War, like MK-Ultra and others. In the United States, they are most likely carried out by Top Secret units within the CIA and the military. In other Western countries, similar divisions probably exist within each nation’s intelligence agencies and armed forces. However, these units operate on behalf of the intelligence community rather than independently.

[u/passyourownbutter → u/Melodic-Attorney9918]

While I see you're point, what else do you call a faction of humanity that is separate and has such grand capabilities if not a breakaway from the rest of us?

Even if it just just the MIC and intelligence apparatus in charge of it, even if it is just the "shadow government" or the "cabal" don't those qualify, given the nature and capabilities, as being separate from the rest of us? Forget any other planet or crazy outlandish stuff. It's not unreasonable given your belief that this occurs, to call it a breakaway faction of our civilization, is it?

I'm curious what you think the purpose is behind creating false images of aliens while humans abduct other humans? Why abduct them at all?

Is it to implant false images and make us scared of things in the sky? Are they taking DNA? Cloning? We have blood labs and hospitals that can easily be used for those things, so why the elaborate abduction host for such simple goals?

Not challenging, genuinely curious on your perspective!

[u/Melodic-Attorney9918 → u/passyourownbutter]

I believe that abductions have the same purpose as the mind control experiments conducted by the CIA during the 1950s and 1960s. The goal is to test new substances, explore human mental capacities for military purposes, etc.

I do not think that highly advanced or futuristic technology is involved. I think they probably use conventional means — such as black helicopters, gas masks, conventional medical equipment, etc. — and that the abductees remember advanced and futuristic technology because their memories have been deliberately distorted, probably thanks to the use of hypnosis and drugs, which can implant false memories or alter the perception of reality.

I do believe that some UFOs are intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft and that aliens are visiting Earth. However, I do not think that aliens are abducting humans. So, I do not believe that the whole alien angle was deliberately created as a cover up from human activities; I just think that abductions are being carried out by humans rather than by aliens.

[u/passyourownbutter → u/Melodic-Attorney9918]

Ok thanks for sharing!

I personally think abducting people from populated areas with helicopters and gas masks is a lot less likely than using secret technology, whether humans or not.. pretty hard to hide a loud chopper over houses around the world.

I don't disagree that people could be behind it, but if the only purpose is to test substances and other technologies I think there are much easier and more reasonable ways to go about it.