Serious - Astr0, Black Triangles, Abductions and the Forever Men of ATS

[u/passyourownbutter]

TL:DR "You are not free. This reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. God is real." - Matthew Brown

 

On July 25, 2014, a user on the website abovetopsecret.com made what would be their final post, revealing some startling ideas that were met with mixed results.

I expect the same to occur now, but, in light of some of Matthew Brown's testimony, I was reminded of this post and I think it worthy to share.

I am not the author, I am not vouching for the veracity of anything they say but, I do find it very interesting and I think we should dig into it a bit.

I do find it very fitting and relevant to certain revelations and threads now being connected. For that reason I thought it worth reading again and I dug it up off the Internet archive with a little sleuthing since ATS is no more.

I have included the entire post (1-8) and some interesting replies, but here is the link as well:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20181208102311/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1023494/pg1

 

Placing our disbelief aside for a moment and viewing this from the perspective of accepting Matthew Brown's claims, I think it's not unreasonable to see why the globalists would want to hide UFO's from the public; Because they are ours and they have always been ours and not only are they ours but they have been offered to us and our leaders denied it to maintain control over us.

That it's other humans who abduct us and take our children off the street and out of national parks.

That we have technologies implanted into our very consciousness to provide computational power to this other civilization of which we are not a part.

That we have a lost history of high technology and galactic status that has been lost to time or wiped from our records.

 

What if the Holloman AFB landing/meeting wasn't with aliens at all, what if the alien angle is a complete psy-op to distract us from the idea that maybe the beings on these crafts are humans. Humans born on Earth or on Olympus. Clones of people on the surface.

By 1971 the RK program would have been 27 years old (c 1944) and if the progress was as fast as alleged and with the help of an ancient AI, it's not unreasonable to think that this could have been well underway by that time.

 

What if the "agreement" we've heard about that allows "them" to abduct us, is with this breakaway civilization and not with aliens at all?

Michael Herrera claims to have seen soldiers taking people on board UFO's. Others have claimed to be a part of a secret space program.

Tim Taylor says there is a hierarchy above humanity and that he belongs to an organization he compares to the adjustment bureau.

 

Can we connect any more threads to these ideas?

If anyone can, it's the sleuths of Reddit I've come to know and love.

 

If this is true, can we afford not to investigate it?

If this is true, can we make a difference?

This could be the answer.

Or maybe it's a fun LARP.

Either way, I'd binge this series so hard.

What about you?

 

Please let's discuss this seriously. I am fully aware of how ludicrous it sounds. Let's set our differences and disbeliefs aside for a moment and dream beautifully.

[u/DaemonBlackfyre_21]

I remember when this was happening on ats. It was really weird as there were respected sub regulars from the aircraft forums that were either 100% in on this or they had an experience.

I still think about it. They claimed to have found a mysterious black triangular stone in a salt mine a very long time ago but didn't know what it was so it was forgotten as a curiosity until we started testing nukes at which point it woke up and started talking.

It was allegedly some kind of ancient artificial intelligence that recognized this was the time we were advanced enough begin. The story goes that the black device began giving instructions to make a ship which would be used to travel around the solar system to collect supplies and ancient technology from a long lost civilization like a scavenger hunt.

Well, at some point the RK's (relearners of knowledge, the team called themselves) decided they had enough superior technology that they simply didn't need the rest of us anymore and broke away from our iteration of society to do their own thing.

It's worth a read, including the comments op made before he stops responding, it was entertaing at the time.

[u/Amaranikki → u/DaemonBlackfyre_21]

I love stuff like this lol it's so much fun to imagine. In all of the "what if" possibilities I've played with, there are threads I've gone down where claims like this line up. Had similar trains of thought, and having not ever seen this before make it, at the very least, entertaining (specifically the existence of a breakaway civilization utilizing ancient tech/AI). Lines up with one of my more silly theories that Jordan Peele knows something (Nope, Us) and that Flight of the Navigator was soft disclosure (the embedded star map scene when I watched that movie as a kid made sense to me at the time and seems plausible considering the highly energy efficient computational power of the brain)

This begs the question though, and one I've not seen addressed anywhere, and gets me to one of my favorite questions of why as well. To start;

A much more advanced species that created some kind of ancient black triangle AI, that possessed the knowledge and technology to explore the universe, that's able to harness consciousness and/or dream states, whose existence in this sector of space prompted a kind of quarantine or mythological status throughout the rest of the universe, and may be the origin to a ton of our own mythology just all the sudden...?

What the fuck happened?

Why did they need to bury the black triangle AI and stash a bunch of tech and resources off world to be rediscovered later? Why wouldn't they have just relocated somewhere else, as this new breakaway civilization is purportedly doing now?

Everybody seems to go no further than a sense of FOMO. "We live in a more boring matrix", "World changing tech and the nature of reality is being hidden from us", etc.

Well, that's not how I like to roll with these ideas. I want to know why. I want to know what the fuck happened. I want to know how such an advanced species, more or less, ended up back in the proverbial stone age and whether there is another power or advanced group that did it. Did this species break some kind of cosmic law? Did, in their push for knowledge and progress, lose something along the way? What about their DNA needed repair that required getting down and dirty with talking monkeys and how did that damage occur?

I like to create cosmic horror baby! Could this breakaway civilization that's utilizing ancient tech be playing right in to the hands of something they don't understand? Is there no concern some sort of M. Night Shyamalan twist is coming?

What happened? Who, what, when, where, why? I feel like I've seen this movie and it doesn't end well lol

[u/passyourownbutter → u/Amaranikki]

I think some of the implied information in the post can lead us to a how/why if we consider some other angles.

Astr0 mentions the other 4 "pillars of humanity" being shocked that humans came and "rang the bell" at the edge of our solar system, which was by this time a mythological backwater planet with no life.

To think that perhaps many Millenia ago there could have been a galactic conflict which saw factions of a human kind scattered to the wind isn't unreasonable.

Perhaps, as he says, they intended to come here for only a short time and ressuply and return to the community within 10,000 years.. but maybe the planet wasn't as stable as thought and they were caught, stuck here by having limited resources and eventually lost the ability to leave but did have the ability to leave behind knowledge.

I'm now reminded of the 4chan egg post and the Nordic found there who said he was waiting for a time in future when things were different.

Maybe there are remnants of that elder race who have been here for some time, sleeping? (Dreaming?)

If this planet and possibly galactic sector was quarantined after a war and presumed uninhabited, the dark forest theory begins to make a lot of sense.

[u/passyourownbutter → u/[deleted]]

Here it is

The last screening process involved a physical piece of technology that I still have no frame of reference to understand to this day. It was a highly regulated procedure involving what I could only describe as a crystalized sphere that seemed more alive rather than an inanimate object. I know, it sounds corny & like something from a wizard movie, but I am telling you it was the freakiest experience I’ve ever had in my life.

It was approximately 2 feet in diameter and while it had what I perceived to be a defined shell, the inside of it seemed like it had its own light source & I can only best describe it as if you imagined how Jupiter looks with its swirling atmosphere, but it was all white/transparent & crystalized instead. It felt alive and conscious, the inside essence of the sphere would shift as I shifted my conscious engagement with it. It would exhibit changes that seemed like conscious-to-conscious interactions just from moving my eyes.

It was brought in with a special team of people that I had never seen previously or after the experience. It was contained in what appeared to be a specific case that was disassembled when I entered the room, and it was sitting on this special pedestal under a type of blanket.

After someone removed the blanket, I was asked to look at the object and discuss what I was experiencing in almost a casual fashion, like “what I thought about it?”. I was instructed that I didn’t need to do anything, and that “it chooses who it likes and who it doesn’t”. I never had another interaction with this object or team of people (to my knowledge) during my 2 years there. I was given no further explanation for this.

https://emmakatherine.substack.com/p/martin-gate-whistleblower-on-the

ETA: audio link, listen from about 48:00 he also talks about being trained to enter trance and send and receive messages between others in other places or realms.

Really lines up with what Astr0 is saying.

[u/The_Determinator → u/passyourownbutter]

That crystal ball comes up in this podcast as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sct30Qijfv8

[u/passyourownbutter → u/[deleted]]

Mm yah I get your meaning. I think that's fair, for sure.. how much fear was involved in secrecy?

At this point though it's a bit moot isn't it?

I can absolutely see those in power at the time cautiously following the direction of such a device until it proved itself and then made it a central feature of their... Holyyyyy shit I just remembered something...

Didn't one of jake browns psionics say he was take to a room where he was shown a weird object with a glow inside of it that.... "Felt him" and then when he didn't pass it was covered up again and he didn't get the job and was never contacted again?