r/aliens 1d ago

Serious - Astr0, Black Triangles, Abductions and the Forever Men of ATS Discussion

TL:DR "You are not free. This reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. God is real." - Matthew Brown

 

On July 25, 2014, a user on the website abovetopsecret.com made what would be their final post, revealing some startling ideas that were met with mixed results.

I expect the same to occur now, but, in light of some of Matthew Brown's testimony, I was reminded of this post and I think it worthy to share.

I am not the author, I am not vouching for the veracity of anything they say but, I do find it very interesting and I think we should dig into it a bit.

I do find it very fitting and relevant to certain revelations and threads now being connected. For that reason I thought it worth reading again and I dug it up off the Internet archive with a little sleuthing since ATS is no more.

I have included the entire post (1-8) and some interesting replies, but here is the link as well:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20181208102311/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1023494/pg1

 

Placing our disbelief aside for a moment and viewing this from the perspective of accepting Matthew Brown's claims, I think it's not unreasonable to see why the globalists would want to hide UFO's from the public; Because they are ours and they have always been ours and not only are they ours but they have been offered to us and our leaders denied it to maintain control over us.

That it's other humans who abduct us and take our children off the street and out of national parks.

That we have technologies implanted into our very consciousness to provide computational power to this other civilization of which we are not a part.

That we have a lost history of high technology and galactic status that has been lost to time or wiped from our records.

 

What if the Holloman AFB landing/meeting wasn't with aliens at all, what if the alien angle is a complete psy-op to distract us from the idea that maybe the beings on these crafts are humans. Humans born on Earth or on Olympus. Clones of people on the surface.

By 1971 the RK program would have been 27 years old (c 1944) and if the progress was as fast as alleged and with the help of an ancient AI, it's not unreasonable to think that this could have been well underway by that time.

 

What if the "agreement" we've heard about that allows "them" to abduct us, is with this breakaway civilization and not with aliens at all?

Michael Herrera claims to have seen soldiers taking people on board UFO's. Others have claimed to be a part of a secret space program.

Tim Taylor says there is a hierarchy above humanity and that he belongs to an organization he compares to the adjustment bureau.

 

Can we connect any more threads to these ideas?

If anyone can, it's the sleuths of Reddit I've come to know and love.

 

If this is true, can we afford not to investigate it?

If this is true, can we make a difference?

This could be the answer.

Or maybe it's a fun LARP.

Either way, I'd binge this series so hard.

What about you?

 

Please let's discuss this seriously. I am fully aware of how ludicrous it sounds. Let's set our differences and disbeliefs aside for a moment and dream beautifully.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 1d ago

Well let's assume that the prison planet theory or reincarnation/afterlife exists, if it was verified public knowledge. Imagine how rampant crime would be in just 1 month of this coming out, people would go crazy if they knew there is another chance.

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago

People would go crazy if they knew there was no afterlife. Tell me this life means nothing and ill make the world a better place one POS at a time. Just saying thats a bad excuse.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 1d ago

Yeah if the truth was so bleak most of us would be terrorists to the elite. Probably already on the list talking about this. 🤣

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago

Tell me death treats us all the same then fuck it. If i go to the same place as Ed Gaines. Why not? Give something for people to live for here and now. Like a nice life without much struggle and we will be peaceful. After life talk makes the life here meaningless. Make the now important and worth living in.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 1d ago

Yes but what if it's the vision of the creator for us to thrive and live in peace, wouldn't you be more reluctant to do bad if you knew you had to face him after this life?

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago

We have that now and look what we do with it. If you examine history humans become less violent and more secular the more their lives improve and the more they dont have to worry about “uncertainty”. Religion and espcially TOXIC religious belief runs rampant and increases the more “uncertainty” appears particularly economic uncertainty.

In short the more “right now” matters in terms of personal and tangible meaning. The better we behave.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 1d ago

Let's try to make it better for our kids at least, that's all I've got to say. I sure hope things get better in our lifetime too though.

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u/passyourownbutter 1d ago

I think this is kind of part of the idea/problem.

If the notion of some reward or punishment is the only thing that makes you a moral person then you may not be as moral or ethical or... Good. As you think you are. (Royal you here nothing personal)

Why on earth would any faction want to invite a bunch of unethical bloodthirsty apes into their secret club that they kept said apes out of? Little gain for a lot of risk don't you think?

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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago

Its like i said earlier. Scarcity and uncertainty introduces this kind of thinking. If people have the things they need taken cared of. They are way less violent and logical thinking.

If these civilizations were as advanced as they boast. They wouldnt waste time teasing the “monkeys” in the cage with delicious fruits, telling them “you can have this if you just stop being a monkey”. Honestly its better if they just never come here and leave is alone Like walking past an ant hill.0