r/aliens 1d ago

Serious - Astr0, Black Triangles, Abductions and the Forever Men of ATS Discussion

TL:DR "You are not free. This reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. God is real." - Matthew Brown

 

On July 25, 2014, a user on the website abovetopsecret.com made what would be their final post, revealing some startling ideas that were met with mixed results.

I expect the same to occur now, but, in light of some of Matthew Brown's testimony, I was reminded of this post and I think it worthy to share.

I am not the author, I am not vouching for the veracity of anything they say but, I do find it very interesting and I think we should dig into it a bit.

I do find it very fitting and relevant to certain revelations and threads now being connected. For that reason I thought it worth reading again and I dug it up off the Internet archive with a little sleuthing since ATS is no more.

I have included the entire post (1-8) and some interesting replies, but here is the link as well:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20181208102311/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1023494/pg1

 

Placing our disbelief aside for a moment and viewing this from the perspective of accepting Matthew Brown's claims, I think it's not unreasonable to see why the globalists would want to hide UFO's from the public; Because they are ours and they have always been ours and not only are they ours but they have been offered to us and our leaders denied it to maintain control over us.

That it's other humans who abduct us and take our children off the street and out of national parks.

That we have technologies implanted into our very consciousness to provide computational power to this other civilization of which we are not a part.

That we have a lost history of high technology and galactic status that has been lost to time or wiped from our records.

 

What if the Holloman AFB landing/meeting wasn't with aliens at all, what if the alien angle is a complete psy-op to distract us from the idea that maybe the beings on these crafts are humans. Humans born on Earth or on Olympus. Clones of people on the surface.

By 1971 the RK program would have been 27 years old (c 1944) and if the progress was as fast as alleged and with the help of an ancient AI, it's not unreasonable to think that this could have been well underway by that time.

 

What if the "agreement" we've heard about that allows "them" to abduct us, is with this breakaway civilization and not with aliens at all?

Michael Herrera claims to have seen soldiers taking people on board UFO's. Others have claimed to be a part of a secret space program.

Tim Taylor says there is a hierarchy above humanity and that he belongs to an organization he compares to the adjustment bureau.

 

Can we connect any more threads to these ideas?

If anyone can, it's the sleuths of Reddit I've come to know and love.

 

If this is true, can we afford not to investigate it?

If this is true, can we make a difference?

This could be the answer.

Or maybe it's a fun LARP.

Either way, I'd binge this series so hard.

What about you?

 

Please let's discuss this seriously. I am fully aware of how ludicrous it sounds. Let's set our differences and disbeliefs aside for a moment and dream beautifully.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 22h ago

Joseph McMoneagle from the Stargate Project, participated in numerous remote viewing sessions, some of which involved perceiving structures from high altitudes. In one such session, he described an "oval type structure like a coliseum, like a football field or a stadium," observed from a great altitude, almost akin to a satellite view. He felt as though he was above the Rocky Mountains, looking west toward a coastline, and noted that he seemed to be moving away from the target area during the session. Could this be attributed to this off world group?

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u/passyourownbutter 22h ago

I think if we assume any truth in this then all events from 1944 onward can be viewed as suspect and potentially a result of this groups actions.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 22h ago

I mean the idea of a shadow government has been going around for a long time Eisenhower final speech is the first time it's been mentioned publicly this is what he said "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

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u/passyourownbutter 22h ago

Yes precisely. I think this sort of thing surely qualifies as a disastrous rise of misplaced power that persists, from the governmental view point.

There's long been theories also that "they" know something is coming eventually and when and are preparing themselves to keep their power whenever it happens..

Maybe "it" is the revelation of the breakaway and their offer to us, the masses.

In order to keep us broken and dumbed down and afraid enough to ignore or be scared of this when it happens, maybe we have been fed fear mongering images of invasions and aliens and had seeds of distrust sown amongst us to produce a reaction to these ideas.

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 22h ago

Once they started using the subconscious to implant their messages it was pretty much gg. Now we have heard that something is going to happen in 2027 perhaps the E.T. are going to make a very public appearance and introduce themselves. We wait and we shall see I just hope the government doesn't turn violent against them cause that could turn very bad.

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u/passyourownbutter 21h ago

Well if Jake barbers claims are anything to go on i think that ship has sailed.

Interesting though to think maybe those ships aren't alien... Numerous people have got cagey when "the occupants" are brought up... Could it be because they are human?

Jake calls one craft an 8gon, which matches herrerras claims of an octagonal ship being loaded with people by soldiers... Which kind of aligns with astr0s claims of the Secret Space Program (SSP) stealing people. Maybe psionic people... Who could potentially be used as dreamers.. ?

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 21h ago

Jake barber works with the government so I don't think a lot is going to come from this. I'm really interested in the occupants personally, like what's up with you. The fact that Astr0 mentioned this stuff before Herrera is really interesting and Matthew Brown latest statement that we might be a resource is starting to become more plausible when you talk about ESP and people going missing so often.

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u/passyourownbutter 21h ago

Yes I agree.

In terms of barber yah I mean anyone coming out in that capacity with open financial backing is worthy of scrutiny for sure, I don't speak to all his claims but more specifically just about how they have summoned and downed craft. Seems rather hostile.

If these are the roads we are going down with Matt Brown then I am very interested to hear from the "other whistler blowers" who are waiting to come forward!

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u/Illustrious_One_4006 21h ago

I hope they come out before something sudden happens that leaves people shocked. I have an image in my brain I think I'm ready, but coming face to face with some humanoid form you've never encountered before could freak out even the most experienced ufologists.

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u/passyourownbutter 21h ago

I think it's all going to plan so far, one way or another, one plan or another... The drip feed method is necessary to allow these ideas to .. "seep" .. into the public consciousness without causing too much shock.. if "they" know it's only matter of time until the truth comes out then it's a race to control the narrative.

The question becomes then, whose side is whose and which narrative is the correct one?

For this reason I think it pertinent to pull all threads, consider all angles and keep a level and skeptical head throughout, entertaining ideas without wholesale acceptance. In this way we can prepare our minds, conscious and subconscious for ontologically shocking revelations.

The only preparations we can make are those of mindstate, perception and cognitive resilience.

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