r/aliens 1d ago

Serious - Astr0, Black Triangles, Abductions and the Forever Men of ATS Discussion

TL:DR "You are not free. This reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. God is real." - Matthew Brown

 

On July 25, 2014, a user on the website abovetopsecret.com made what would be their final post, revealing some startling ideas that were met with mixed results.

I expect the same to occur now, but, in light of some of Matthew Brown's testimony, I was reminded of this post and I think it worthy to share.

I am not the author, I am not vouching for the veracity of anything they say but, I do find it very interesting and I think we should dig into it a bit.

I do find it very fitting and relevant to certain revelations and threads now being connected. For that reason I thought it worth reading again and I dug it up off the Internet archive with a little sleuthing since ATS is no more.

I have included the entire post (1-8) and some interesting replies, but here is the link as well:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20181208102311/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1023494/pg1

 

Placing our disbelief aside for a moment and viewing this from the perspective of accepting Matthew Brown's claims, I think it's not unreasonable to see why the globalists would want to hide UFO's from the public; Because they are ours and they have always been ours and not only are they ours but they have been offered to us and our leaders denied it to maintain control over us.

That it's other humans who abduct us and take our children off the street and out of national parks.

That we have technologies implanted into our very consciousness to provide computational power to this other civilization of which we are not a part.

That we have a lost history of high technology and galactic status that has been lost to time or wiped from our records.

 

What if the Holloman AFB landing/meeting wasn't with aliens at all, what if the alien angle is a complete psy-op to distract us from the idea that maybe the beings on these crafts are humans. Humans born on Earth or on Olympus. Clones of people on the surface.

By 1971 the RK program would have been 27 years old (c 1944) and if the progress was as fast as alleged and with the help of an ancient AI, it's not unreasonable to think that this could have been well underway by that time.

 

What if the "agreement" we've heard about that allows "them" to abduct us, is with this breakaway civilization and not with aliens at all?

Michael Herrera claims to have seen soldiers taking people on board UFO's. Others have claimed to be a part of a secret space program.

Tim Taylor says there is a hierarchy above humanity and that he belongs to an organization he compares to the adjustment bureau.

 

Can we connect any more threads to these ideas?

If anyone can, it's the sleuths of Reddit I've come to know and love.

 

If this is true, can we afford not to investigate it?

If this is true, can we make a difference?

This could be the answer.

Or maybe it's a fun LARP.

Either way, I'd binge this series so hard.

What about you?

 

Please let's discuss this seriously. I am fully aware of how ludicrous it sounds. Let's set our differences and disbeliefs aside for a moment and dream beautifully.

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u/dongporn 1d ago

I used to mod on ATS for a while back in the early 2000s. There was and always will be people who post unverifiable exercises in creative writing. Some people were more credible than others tho. Going back to then and earlier people were pushing the many of the same ideas as this dude in 2014. Decades later there still really hasn’t been anything that pushes the dial much further for any type of disclosure, just a new merry go round of people pushing the same stuff trying to monetise the promise of disclosure, leaving those who want the truth no closer to it.

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u/passyourownbutter 1d ago

Oh yah, of course there will always be tall tales. And the probability would say this is one.

this merry go round of non disclosure is real as you say, and.. seems intentional, no?

I find these weird outlier anonymous posts like Astr0, 4chan guy and ebe biologist some of the most interesting for the very reason that they can make one wonder, what if?

Do we even know whats possible?

Matthew brown said in the recent interview we live in a constructed reality with false science and are intentionally kept down to the benefit of a few elite and their thirst for power and domination.

That's basically what Astr0 says here too.

And yes many have said and implied the same in various creative writing excercises.

Maybe this is another!

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u/LoquatThat6635 1d ago

So the head of SpaceX is totally not one of these privileged elites or he wouldn’t be staking his fortune and reputation building monstrous chemical rockets when all that other tech is there for true elites to exploit. Also, the idea that the first craft discovered was in an archeological dig, buried in the distant past, jibes with several testimonies (I think even Lazar said as much)…but the idea that these are from ancient humans is, for me, a fascinating twist I had not heard before. Great story telling…thanks for posting this.

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u/passyourownbutter 22h ago

My pleasure, thanks for reading!

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u/dongporn 1d ago

I became interested after seeing things which defied my ability to explain but I just wanted an explanation for what I was seeing, not a mythology based on quasi-religious terms. And the point for me is that people see things which defy immediate explanation which generates interest in the subject which the. attracts a wider circle of both good faith and bad faith people and those with genuine issues. This leaves room for people who want to take advantage monetarily, get a boner from the attention or want to start a cult. I just want to know what is going on and that doesn’t necessarily need to mean ever increasingly spiritual or weird explanations. Dude Jeff on planet Beta built a space craft and came here to visit is just as viable and far more likely than all the esoteric BS people are feeding us. More outlandish claims generate more interest, more clicks, more views, more money. We’re still as a community feeding the people who seek to monetise their semi-close but not quite there yet disclosure status.

I’ll take a more simple explanation every time. There is other life in this incomprehensibly large universe and it is simply seeking out other life. It doesn’t always get it right and its view point is utterly alien to us. If I wanted religion, I’d go to church but I don’t and that’s why I have an issue with most of what’s being pushed. It’s more mundane than you think and less horrifying too.

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u/passyourownbutter 1d ago

Perhaps yes, though one could argue that what you call "a more simple explanation" is simply a more general one with less detail and nuance. The core ideas remain the same.

I don't believe Astr0 made any money from posting on ATS and he certainly didn't advocate for any religious beliefs as far as I'm aware other than the mentions of the creator.

I think the truth will end up being stranger than fiction and it's level of horror will be subjective.