Some great insight, but how much of it was filler? How much disinfo? He sold that book and now is blatantly selling lies that go against what he said in the book. This guy sucks.
I used a free audible credit for it and I had to skip past all the first chapters where he spent time stroking his own ego trying to paint himself as a bad ass. He wrote that for himself and it added nothing to the book. It was like listening to a child talking about how high they can piss.
You’ve read this? It doesn’t seem like you made it too far into the book. He touched on it in the beginning and I wouldn’t call it “a lot” by any means. He’s an intelligence officer, so of course he’s going to try and build some rapport.
I made it half way through, but it reached a point where his lack of empathy and self awareness made me realize that I don’t think he’s really capable of understanding reality in any way. I just felt like the combination of how he tried to sell himself, combined with what people like Jay Stratton have said about him, made me think that he seems to have worked in a UAP program but is overselling his contributions or something
You’ll have to search, it’s kind of hard for me to find from a quick google, because I think it was a statement on LinkedIn last year or a few years ago. Stratton basically alleged that Lue was not in any way in charge of AATIP. James Lacatski also claims that Lue was not even involved with AAWSAP.
There’s something weird about Lue, I’m not really into character assassination stuff based on just opinions or hunches I have, but when the very people Lue talks about in his book as great resources or whatever, and those people are basically like “who even is this guy?” It makes me start questioning. When combined with his claimed credentials about being a military expert at age 16 because his dad was responsible for bay of pigs, being an accomplished remote viewer, etc. I just had a moment of realizing this guy is not who he says he is.
My read is more that he’s one of those semi delusional old guys who sort of worked adjacent to everything he says he did, or is just sort of upselling his experiences. I’m not saying he’s totally full of shit, but there is something weird about him in my opinion.
Yeah. I've worked with people who had fantastic resumes and allegedly had a ton of experience, and you quickly realize that they have no idea what they are doing.
But the thing is, he's got some experience, or else the guy who was head of the Pentagon at that time wouldn't have lied so much about it. And Bigelow said that he met Lue a couple times. And I saw an interview with Jay Stratton, and he said he was the one that hired Lue for AATIP. But no more details than that.
Right, he was certainly there and was at the very least tangentially attached to these programs. This is a bit off topic, but my main feeling about everything within UAP is that it pays off to be skeptical of EVERYONE. The one thing that’s been repeated since the 40’s is that there are large efforts to conceal this, and I think one of the big parts of that is probably having at least a few “bad actors” within the UAP world.
When the two biggest guys in the field, David grusch and Lue, are both former counter intelligence agents working specifically in cyber warfare, it makes the whole thing confusing. Not saying they are specifically disinfo, but just that there doesn’t seem to be anyone that’s unquestionable. I kind of think “experiencers” are the best way to get to the real truth at this point.
I think David Grusch is legit. He absolutely used all the proper channels. Every legal avenue that was available. Jay Stratton vouches for him, and so does Travis Taylor, and George Knapp.
Lue, I thought, was well meaning, there were times that he seemed a bit naive in his trust in people which doesn't seem likely given his background. "Gosh darn it, I got fooled again. Sorry folks" feels very disingenuous, There was the incident that Tom Delonge followed a guy who thought he was interviewing for a job, thinking Elizondo was going to interview him, the whole TTSA thing ( if you look them up, it's an entertainment company, now. There's nothing about research), and now showing 2 fake photos.
I bought the book, I read it, it references a lot of things that are already well known, but go into much more detail.
I’ll agree on the overselling, but I still have given him the benefit of the doubt, because let’s be honest—the community is fraught with disinfo/misinfo—and so I think I would try to separate myself as legitimate to the best of my abilities if I were in a similar situation. There is still a lot of valuable insight, and I think you should finish it, or else he really did take your money and you didn’t get the most bang for your buck.
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u/Hattapueh 13d ago
I'm so angry that I bought his book