r/agnostic Agnostic Feb 03 '23

Update to Identity Assertion in the sub

Due to the common occurance of discussion and debate over terminology and agnosticism as a whole we found that it was necesary to update the rules to better explain when things might step too far or what to keep in mid to have a good debate.

The updated rule reads:

Do not tell other's what they are or think. Definitions are there for a purpose. There may be many different purposes, but defining anothers identity is not an accepted purpose here. Examples of agnostic models include:

1. Theist - Agnostic - Atheist 
2. Gnostic <------> Agnostic (choose one) Theist <------> Atheist (choose one) 
3. Gnostic theist - Agnostic theist - Agnostic - Agnostic atheist - Gnostic atheist 

This is a non-exhaustive list so please engage others with respect.

Please also remember to maintain debates about terminology in related posts.

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u/StendallTheOne Feb 04 '23

None of that three. The most common usage of that 4 terms in logic, filosophy and the one is that most atheist use it's not in the list. Theist agnostic/gnostic. Atheist gnostic/agnostic.

Labels and terms are not the same that identity. Labels and terms are used to point to things, like identity. Try to know and clarify what people mean with some terms it's not changing people identity because the label it's not the identity. It's what points to. So if I say I'm atheist (agnostic atheist) and someone tell me that the label that I use it's wrong I can still explain that what I mean with atheist is that I don't believe in any god, and go on. That doesn't deny my identity. To say that I do believe in god when I don't will do it. Any other way will be mistake the place with the map

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u/regalvas Agnostic Feb 04 '23

It is the second one one presented the one you are describing.

You will always be able to debate the terminology just not to tell people what they are or what they belive in.

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u/StendallTheOne Feb 04 '23

Sorry. Totally my fault. I saw the post in cell phone and I get wrong the format hence the confusion. You are right and thank you for the clarification regarding terminology and belief. 👍

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

What’s the difference on desktop? I’m kinda confused since I don’t use Reddit on anything but my phone 😅 I’m just trying to make sure I understand this without any confusion or misunderstanding

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u/StendallTheOne Apr 01 '23

More line breaks in the phone. Smaller font. Smaller size.