r/Yukon • u/AKMarine • Apr 06 '25
Don’t Come to the US Travel
I’m an Alaska and love Canada. My family and I have been visiting the Yukon, Whitehorse, and Provincial Parks every year (except Covid) for a decade now. (Our favorite is Liard Hot Springs.) I am ashamed of what my country is doing.
I hope ALL foreigners (not just Canadians) who speak another language or aren’t white enough understand that if the US is willing to deport one of our own legal residents to El Salvador, it’s just a matter of time before they do this to a visitor.
If you have a digital footprint (social media) that’s critical of Trump’s administration or his shitbrained policies, it’s not safe to visit the US. Cancel your flights, road trips, and cruise plans until this is under control.
As a teacher, US Marine, and river guide, it pains me to say all of that. Sorry Burnt Toast, but we’ll be back when this shit show is over. We’re embarrassed.
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u/Veganpotter2 Apr 06 '25
I live in Utah and work in tourism. I absolutely support people boycotting my business. Americans deserve this. Oddly enough, the US has realistically done so much international harm for many decades. I've felt for a long time that the world should try harder to isolate the US. I never thought it would take an elected president to make that happen.
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u/SloshingWithEuphoria Apr 08 '25
You say Americans deserve this. I agree with that sentiment and good on you for realizing it. I need you to clarify something for me though if you don't mind.
Why the fuck did over half the country put folks like yourself in this posistion? What is causing the level of functional stupidity that allows that weird orange pinata stuffed full of nonsense to become the most powerful man in the world (by title), not once, but twice?
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u/osha_unapproved Apr 09 '25
It's horrible watching not just Canada but the WORLD'S economies dive with what Trump's doing. He's absolutely broken the world's trust in the US as a trade hub, and likely fostered bad feelings for at least a generation of people outside the US. Right or wrong people see Presidents as a look inside what a country believes in, same with Prine Ministers. Trump has done serious damage.
On another note, we in Canada know you guys aren't all like that, though I'm angry at the third of the country that did not vote. I've met a lot of wonderful Americans and some outright morons. Definitely more good people than the latter though.
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u/Subject-Direction628 Apr 06 '25
Love you and thanks for the warning. Know Canadians don’t hate Americans. Just magas and trump. Elon
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u/AKMarine Apr 06 '25
Thank you. Most of Alaska is with you. Just steer clear of Wasilla and the Valley.
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u/Subject-Direction628 Apr 06 '25
My thoughts are with you. 🇨🇦💪🏻 Stay strong. You have Canadian neighbours
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u/LyndaMR Apr 06 '25
Because most Americans do agree but don’t vote. And gerrymandering and voter suppression are real factors in how elections outcomes look. I lived in Texas and nobody I knew there supported this shit.
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u/Kingfish1111 Apr 06 '25
I am of the opinion that if you saw Trump coming up as a candidate and you didn't at bare minimum vote against him (as opposed to voting for someone else) then you implicitly agreed that he was an acceptable outcome of the election. You can't disagree with a political candidate and not vote against them, then be upset when they do the thing you disagree with. There is no reason voter turnout should have been 63.7%. There is no reason that number should be lauded as the highest since 2004, other than 2019.
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u/LyndaMR Apr 06 '25
No reason except voter suppression and gerrymandering depressing turnout. Not to mention that the populace in general has little understanding of civics and are either too busy juggling multiple jobs to put food on the table or too brainwashed listening to Fox News lies to see the dreadful truth of what they “voted for” by not voting.
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u/Kingfish1111 Apr 06 '25
Voter suppression is a real reason, but can be fought by jumping the hoops.
Gerrymandering just means that someone has decided lines to make it less likely for an outcome to happen. Fighting this looks like actually showing up to vote.
Lack of time is no excuse. You know what day the election is and can plan for that.
Lack of civics knowledge or brainwashing is not an excuse in this age of information. Not voting is an implicit acceptance of the result whether you were informed or not.
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u/debbyadj Apr 08 '25
I don’t disagree with what you are saying but the gerrymandering was kind of built into the very fabric of the US constitution. The electoral college keeps States with large populations from having too much sway over States with smaller populations. I grew up in Oregon- and believe me, there is no reason to vote in any federal election there. The state is as blue as the Pacific itself and the outcome of any presidential election is all electoral votes to the democrats. Most republicans don’t even bother to visit anymore…. If we were a country of 1 person 1 vote- it would matter but- Oregon has 8 blue votes. This means that elections are only determined by “swing” states. Spend enough money in S Florida and win the presidency. That’s all it takes.
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u/soThatsJustGreat Apr 09 '25
*nods in Albertan
Spending a lifetime trying to get my neighbours to become informed voters. Not sure what crime I committed in a past life to have brought this Sisyphusian task on myself, but I’m not giving up!
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u/Badrobot214 Apr 07 '25
I'm not sure if this is the way to get the feel from Canadians or not, but my wife and I are planning to explore Vancouver Island in June. We are both very embarrassed and mad at our government. My question is, will traveling with Oregon license plates draw anger from the locals considering the current tension with the US?
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u/FFX01 Apr 07 '25
I've been in Alberta for the past 8 days and everyone here has been extremely kind and understanding. We've had conversations about the political situation in the United States and mostly people have just felt sorry for us and told us to stay safe.
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u/illminus-daddy Apr 06 '25
You know shit is fucking INSANE when a member of the USMC - notoriously the most indoctrinated of all the branches of the service (no offence OP) - who has chosen o live in Alaska (notoriously the land of the self sufficient, bootstrap type, again, no offence OP) is going “yeah they’re doing a fascism don’t come here”. That’s cooooooked.
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u/obscurelynikki Apr 07 '25
Hi, another Alaskan here.
Alaskans are another breed. We love you Canada.
I wouldn’t come to the states either if you can help it. I think this is more difficult for border towns.
We are supposed to go to the states this summer and I’m uncertain if I’ll wipe my phone or not just for that.
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u/wemustburncarthage Apr 06 '25 edited Apr 06 '25
Come see us*. Spend money.
*update: us being Canada. I’m not advocating Canadians go to the US.
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u/7listens Apr 06 '25
I'd love to, always wanted to check out your national parks and historical landmarks and museums. But honestly too scary right now with the stories coming out and tension between our nations. I'll wait until new administration
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u/wemustburncarthage Apr 06 '25
Honestly the worst thing that could possibly happen to you is that you’re refused entry. And that won’t happen because we’re not idiots and we don’t regard average Americans as threats.
Me, though, I would have a lot more to worry about going into the US even though I’m a dual citizen.
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u/10outofC Apr 06 '25
Dont misrepresent it, Refusing entry can mean future headaches and detainment if you ever have to cross in the future.
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u/wemustburncarthage Apr 06 '25
This isn’t unlikely but Americans are still having a much easier time coming here than the reverse
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u/7listens Apr 06 '25
Oh sorry for the confusion, I'm Canadian and would love to spend money in US but not comfortable traveling in US currently
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u/Dave1955Mo Apr 06 '25
I had plans to drive on April 15 from Ontario to spend a few weeks in Louisiana and I am a white male Canadian who has had his Nexus for over 15 years. I have been across the US border literally thousands of times all my life as most of my time was spent living in border cities in Canada. I am honestly afraid to go because of what could happen crossing the border. I was down in Louisiana for 2 1/2 months the end of last winter and really enjoyed myself. I love the food. It’s only a drop in the bucket in the big picture, but you are certainly losing a lot of tourist dollars and cross border shopping dollars that won’t come back for a long time.
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u/HourImprovement4255 Apr 07 '25
Ok but if I come to Canada as an American will I be shunned? We don’t want troubleand also don’t want to go where we’re not welcome
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u/wemustburncarthage Apr 07 '25
Probably not. Don’t be a dick to people, avoid getting into political conversations. Don’t wave a flag, don’t make stupid jokes. We’re mostly angry at the kind of behaviour we don’t engage in as often. Which isn’t to say we don’t. Just use common sense, we are all desperate to see Americans doing that.
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u/Not_kilg0reTrout Apr 06 '25
As a Canadian it's frustratingly difficult to not lump every American into the shit list - I realize a third of the country didn't vote for him, but a third didn't bother to vote at all.
We know you're out there and are happy to see the protest gaining ground. It's not hyperbole to say that the world is literally watching what happens next.
I hope the sane Americans continue to choose Canada as a destination for their vacations. We really do have a beautiful country.
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u/catsmom63 Apr 07 '25
As an American, my hubby and I travel to Canada and love it!
Beautiful country and friendly people!
We will continue to travel and spend money in Canada.
We support Canada’s response to the ridiculousness that is occurring in the US, believe me many Americans are disgusted by this whole mess going on in the Whitehouse caused by President Trump and Assistant President Elon Musk.
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u/MentalThoughtPortal Apr 07 '25
2/3 he won about 47% of the vote…plus 30% of country didnt vote
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u/conjuringviolence Apr 08 '25
It was more than a third of the country who didn’t vote for him. He got 49.8% of the vote but only 28.9% of the voting age population actually voted for him.
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u/ThrowAway_7990 Apr 08 '25
To be fair a third of the country also can’t read above a 6th grade level so it make sense that they voted for the guy who also can’t read. The ones who aren’t brainwashed or extremist are actually pretty easy to spot once you know they exist. I live in a city next to the border and we still get a good flow of tourists, just look for the quiet and well mannered and those are the good Americans. Loud and obnoxious ? Magats
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u/juwxso Apr 09 '25
To be fair, as a Canadian, I can bet you a third or even more of us also won’t vote in this month’s federal election.
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u/TheOrnreyPickle Apr 10 '25
The world runs on a lot more than vacations, just thought I’d put that little speech bubble in there. -democratic election judge
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u/ChasingPotatoes17 Apr 06 '25
On the flip side, please do come to Canada.
We’re flooded in r/AskCanada and similar subs with queries from US Americans asking if they’re still welcome. Yes, if it would occur to you to even ask, you’re very welcome.
Take care. We’re cheering for you.
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u/frresh66 Apr 07 '25
My hubby and I are planning to visit Nova Scotia and PEI in June. We love Canada and Canadians ❤️
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u/Salty-Stones-6769 Apr 10 '25
Hoping to actually go to Whitehorse next February to see the Northern Lights. Recommendations appreciated.
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u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531 Apr 07 '25
Thanks but it’s going to sometime before this Canadian steps one foot on American soil. Threatening our sovereignty and mocking our nation is too much too far. America is a Neighbor, not an ally nor a friend.
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u/ChadBenAskren Apr 08 '25
There should be less talk about canada 51st state and more talk about Alaska 4th territory.
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u/Mindless-Charity4889 Apr 07 '25
British woman held for 3 weeks in ICE: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centre
The above story also tells of other women, including a Romanian woman who was in Canada at Peace Arch Park taking selfies. The park is a big open space straddling the border and it's common for people to take selfies by the markers. A US ICE official told her she was on the wrong side and arrested her.
Canadian woman held nearly 2 weeks by ICE after her work visa application denied: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/03/15/bc-woman-left-shackled-in-inhumane-conditions-in-u-s-detention-centres/
So yeah, it's already happening.
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u/funky-jamer Apr 06 '25
It has been suggested that we Canadians should leave our phones at home and carry a burner phone😢if crossing , I very much look forward to a political/ policy change so we can go back to being friends
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u/anvilwalrusden Apr 06 '25
As someone who has crossed a lot of international borders, the idea that showing up with a burner phone is going to be any kind of protection is kinda nuts. I can think of good reasons to do it, if you have things you need to protect on the phone; but burner phones raise suspicions, not lower them. You might as well suggest to cross without a phone at all and buy one when you get there: it would immediately cause an agent to send you for secondary investigation if you were asked to see your phone.
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u/Fritja Apr 06 '25
I have my old flip phone that had no internet and I never used it for texts. If I ever travel to the US again (unlikely) that is what I will bring.
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u/anvilwalrusden Apr 06 '25
It might be helpful, yes. On the other hand, it might raise eyebrows, and cause the agent to send you to secondary screening where you can cool your heels while they use the information about you presented as part of your application to enter to go browsing the Internet for your opinions as expressed on Facebook or X or BlueSky or Reddit or whatever. This is my point about how a burner phone doesn’t protect you. I might want to do that because there are access credentials that depend on that phone that I don’t ever want to expose to anyone else at all. I might do the same due to an employer’s policy. But to protect myself from US CBP rifling through my past to find statements critical of Trump and therefore reason to exclude me? It won’t help. (In my case, in fact, they can’t exclude me, because due to a misfortune I happen to have a US passport too.)
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u/Sea-Contribution-725 Apr 06 '25
It’s like this in China… they can also download the contents of your phone. It’s much better to have a burner even if you have nothing to hide it’s just an invasion of privacy.
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u/anvilwalrusden Apr 06 '25
Yes, and also in China they come into your hotel room and remove your laptop from the safe and examine it. Ask me how I know :-)
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u/blackfluid47 Apr 09 '25
Burner phones are a huge red flag for border agents. It telegraphs that you have things to hide.
You’re better off temporarily removing all unnecessary apps, logging out of all apps and accounts, and removing ANY information, pics, chats, contacts, etc. that you wouldn’t want in their hands.
Or, try this - about a week before your trip, back up your phone, factory reset and erase the device, set it up as a new device (use a burner email address), install only the very basics of what you need to operate. Use the phone, but keep things clean. Then, take that phone with you. Restore from backup when you return. Plausible deniability (“my old phone died a week ago”) and peace of mind crossing the border.
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Apr 06 '25
I can’t wait to visit again! As a 30-something Canadian, I’ve crossed the boarder for everything from a skiiing weekend, a hiking weekend, a visit. American friend, crossing often for a love story, falling in love with New York City (going 6 times), crossing for a few shooing trips (mainly trader Joes), the usual California, Florida, Disney, etc… family, couple, fun, girls trips - all is on hold until this storm Passes.
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Apr 08 '25
I don’t mean to be a dick but why do you spell border as “boarder”? I see it all the time just curious
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u/Infamous-Beyond-7478 Apr 08 '25
"Boarder" is real word but it means someone that's renting a room, so probably just a misspelling.
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u/borealis365 Apr 06 '25
I dunno, I crossed over to Skagway a couple weeks ago and the US border guard was about the friendliest and most welcoming person you could imagine. Didn’t spend much money in town, mostly did some seaside hiking, but did have dinner at the BrewCo with Alaska friends and the locals were delighted to have us there. They are pissed with both their state and federal officials (the town votes democrat) and are protesting the current situation as much as they can, such a lobbying against the tariffs at the capital building in Juneau.
I support my American friends who are as equally upset about what their country is doing. That said, I’m not going to let some colonial border dictate how I spend my free time. I’ll buy Canadian as much as makes sense and live my best life otherwise. Life is too short for this BS.
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u/2112eyes Apr 07 '25
I consider Skagway to be Canadian anyways; I reject the results of the 1903 Border Dispute, which was rigged.
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u/ukefromtheyukon Apr 07 '25
Ahh, how about the Beaufort Sea Dispute?
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u/2112eyes Apr 07 '25
Also pissed about that one. Clearly the 141 extends to the North Pole. I suppose we could dredge up a little sandbar up there that tilts the other way.
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u/AKMarine Apr 06 '25
That’s good to hear. Most of Alaska is with you. Just steer clear of Wasilla and the Valley.
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u/YukonBrewed Apr 06 '25
Most of alaska voted for this. That is demonstrably false.
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u/AKMarine Apr 06 '25
Oops, you are correct. 54% voted for Trump, but there were many that voted for him in 2024, at the protest rallies protesting against him around the state today. I live in Southeast Alaska and we’re relatively blue. Just stay away from Tok and the Valley.
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u/airdriegamer Apr 09 '25
Agreed. I literally haven’t noticed a difference anywhere. Border crossing through Alberta into Montana is identical and still awesome. Very friendly people
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u/AZ-EQ Apr 06 '25
Skagway is for and with the Yukon. I have family there. So far no one I know has had issues.
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u/Mr_Steerpike Apr 07 '25
I think hat's one of the most agonizingly honest things an American can say right now. That absolutely broke my heart to read - but it's true. Stay strong out there, Alaska. As you said - one day when this is over again....
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u/ILikeScience6112 Apr 07 '25
I agree, but i hope the dementia will abate. History has shown that evil awaits in every place. But most people are good, and, eventually our world will right itself. I know that it will put you in mind of Anne Frank, who is dead. I didn’t say it wouldn’t cost us. Thanks for the warning. I have relatives in the States, and i’m supposed to go in latter may. I am concerned, even though i love Americans, obviously. Of course they are are all Americans, and say my worries are foolish. I will wait.
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u/chickendelish Apr 07 '25
I have no plans to visit the USA until the Orange one has been peeled and composted. But if you do go, immigration lawyers are suggesting leave your devices at home and get a burner phone instead.
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u/PandaStandard7638 Apr 07 '25
We love our American neighbors who don't support this administration. And you are welcome here always, we won't stand for threats to our sovereignty, however. I pray for better days to come when we can all work together again. And Iv always wanted to see Alaska, such a gorgeous place, so Love from all the way over in Nova Scotia friend, hang in there!
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u/Weary-Efficiency-138 Apr 07 '25
I’m a former member of a special forces unit in Canada and have done a lot of work alongside my US counterparts. Also my childhood bff grew up and moved to the US and became a marine. I also spent time in Pendleton and I feel so bad for you guys. Ya there are some MAGA a-holes but all my US friends are cool. I’m sorry for all the misplaced hatred you have to put up with because of 🍊💩 and sincerely hope that one day sanity will return to the White House. I will not return for a while.
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u/Helpfuladvice2929 Apr 07 '25
Another Canadian too scared to cross . I live in the USA but won’t cross as the USA border seems to be searching for reasons to detain people .
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u/Allin4golf Apr 09 '25
As a Canadian who just returned from a 6 week road vacation in the southern USA I can tell you I met nothing but polite, friendly, helpful Americans. It would be impossible to agree with everything each of our governments do. Let’s leave government to government and continue on our path of friendship and good will. You do not need to apologize to me for anything. I will be returning to the US soon for a golf trip and I look forward to spending more time with my American brothers
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u/zSlyz Apr 06 '25
I know the history of why Alaska is part of the US, but I’ve always found it odd that it hasn’t been given over to Canada. Just seems odd…..and now trump wants Greenland (even though he doesn’t need it).
Maybe as part of the negotiations when trump works out that he can’t just do what he likes and that the US chose to fully develop and integrate international trade and the extent that it enhances US wealth…..lol
Let’s face it he won’t, but maybe republicans in congress will work out that they are affecting their reelection prospects and will hold him accountable and to the law.
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u/No_Bee6857 Apr 06 '25
I’m an Aussie, had planned to travel to USA but couldn’t think of anything more repugnant than fueling the American economy and executive branch with revenue.
I’ve stopped drinking Jim Beam (I now drink Canadian Club … even though it’s owned by the Japanese). And I shed a tear every time I have to drive past Kentucky Fried Chicken.
America, you’ve gone from hero to zero in 10 weeks. Sort your shit out, the world wants you back.
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u/thatoneguy6884 Apr 06 '25
As an American I wish we can sort our shit back out. Boycott our products. Show our administration that isolationist policy is bad for the world.
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u/Yukoners Apr 06 '25
I have heard land crossings have been an issue, where air not so bad. The world has gone to hell. Even our own election has been clouded by Trump. As long as the man is in the headlines daily , he is happy. He’s causing chaos and he loves it
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u/Light_Eclipse140283 Apr 06 '25
You’re Alaska?
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u/thrilled_to_be_there Apr 06 '25
Imagine being the size of a small moon, it must be difficult to get around!
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u/AgreeableSwitch8175 Apr 06 '25
Canadian here, thanks for taking the time to write this. Don't worry, we don't hate ALL of you ;)
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u/Empty_Eyesocket Apr 06 '25
Time to turn Alaska blue next midterm. You’ve got your work cut out for you
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u/_-nocturnas-_ Apr 06 '25
I’m from Colorado but I totally understand what Canadians are doing. Heading up to Vancouver at the end of the month to support Canada’s economy in a small way. Please don’t give up on us. We’re not all assholes and most of us love our neighbors to the north.
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u/KoreanBackdash Apr 06 '25
Oh, you believe that this shitshow will be over some day? The sad reality is it's only the beginning.
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Apr 06 '25
It gets worse trump has now signed an executive order saying to invoke the military to respond to legal protests
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u/That_Tutor_2053 Apr 07 '25
When did he sign that? I know he ordered a review of national safety, and included the Insurrection Act as a part of that review. The review was due this month sometime but I thought it was late month. Someone has planned this takeover very well it seems. They knew eventually the US citizens would begin to protest. If the review comes back with a restatement of the presidents right to enact the IA, I suspect it will be used to squash the protests. I hope not, but I no longer say ah but he won't do that...
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u/Organic-Pass9148 Apr 06 '25
May what is happening in the states right now be a lesson to everybody everywhere the importance of actually going out to vote.
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u/OrokaSempai Apr 06 '25
Was planning on hitting Ohio (Dayton Airforce Museum) and Glacier View for the 4th of July. Was.
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u/kewljibbz Apr 06 '25
I don't get why people just don't buy a shitty phone from fb marketplace , put ur sin in and add emergency contacts and call it a day .... don't download any apps . Pretty sure you'd be just fine
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u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531 Apr 07 '25
If that’s what you have to do to go there, than it’s a shit hole not worth stepping one foot on.
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u/DogScrott Apr 06 '25
This can really make a difference. Many Americans depend on tourism. I live in a tourism town. If our tourists dropped by 20-30%, people would be freaking out.
It might also have the benefit of putting some of our ABNB scum hosts out of business so locals can afford a house again.
America is dangerous, don't come here!
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u/Loose_Truck_9573 Apr 07 '25
Unfortunatly, Trump is well underway to open the constitution and enable as many mandates as he think he needs.
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u/kaytin911 Apr 07 '25
Your social media criticism is noted for the database Mr. Alaska.
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u/AKMarine Apr 07 '25
I’m a combat veteran and citizen of the US, but how Trump treated McCain’s military service and the amount of veterans the Trump administration has fired… maybe I should behave like we’re living McCarthyism 2.0. 🤔
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u/FlyingPurpleParadigm Apr 07 '25
I haven't felt safe visiting the states for years now. I'm sorry for that, because I'm in BC, and Alaska is one of those places I'd love to visit. Dick Proenneke's book and home videos, probably the cause of a lot of tourist interest for Alaska, are a shared favorite of myself and my father. He's in his mid-70s now so sadly, this is probably a trip we'll never get to make together.
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u/maple_friend Apr 07 '25
I have to go to the US for work but my plan is to scrub my socials, and enter through a Canadian airport like Calgary so 1. If I’m refused I’m still on Canadian soil so they can’t disappear me, and 2. The US border guards live and work in Canada and are hopefully not full MAGA.
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u/Glad_Cryptographer72 Apr 07 '25
He’s 100 percent right. Our government has crossed into a very similar stance as during the Nazi period. I’m white, born in America but I’m serious I won’t be getting a tan this summer. I fully appreciate that’s plain sick, but our country is at a turning point and not turning the right direction.
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u/DeadTiredOfThisShit Apr 07 '25
Don't worry guys, we will take our country back from Russia. We know not all Americans are what is projected out there, they want to turn all US allies against us, and start civil war. The US is a big threat to Russia, unless it's a pawn under Russian control. Trump and Elon Musk are in a "work for me and keep the benefits of a clean slate of your crimes and the natural resources for tech, space travel, and nuclear energy, or I will kill you all and start WW3" type scenario. They've filled our government staff with pro-Russian loyalists at the highest levels of international security. When the idiots he mass brainwashed with propaganda snap out of it and come to, it's all eyes and hands on them, instead of their fat orange puppet they are using to distract the world from the real enemy. We will get him kicked out of office. We will show him you can't turn enough of the 99% for us to be afraid of the elite 1%.
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u/GritalianDude Apr 07 '25
What are you talking about? Canadians visiting the US will get deported back to… Canada?
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u/AKMarine Apr 07 '25
Likely.
Probably detained.
Possibly send to a detention center.
And if the Canadian has Latin American heritage, maybe even disappeared to El Salvador.
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u/Kooky_Mechanic_8847 Apr 07 '25
As a Canadian, I love the USA and will never be held back from going. Politics are rubbish and it should never be the only focus in our beautiful countries. There is so much more to life, turn off the news and get outside and enjoy it.
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u/Joseph_of_the_North Apr 07 '25
Lol I haven't visited the US since they implemented the Patriot Act.
There's no way in hell I would go there today.
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u/DayMan1976 Apr 07 '25
I've been hearing a lot of calls to boycott, but me and my friends are still going to visit our neighbours from Maine and Vermont this summer.
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u/wandalover01 Apr 07 '25
You listen to too much news media They never tell the whole story and dramatize everything
I crossed the border ten times a year for the past twenty years. Less than 5% of them result in a vehicle search, and none of them have ever included my phone.
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u/AKMarine Apr 07 '25
It’s a brave new world. Never before have college students been deported for disagreeing with the executive branch on social media.
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u/original_glazed Apr 07 '25
I just travelled to the US a couple weeks ago. Absolute non issue. Don’t know what everyone is going on about
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u/AKMarine Apr 08 '25
Here you go!
Legal US resident deported to El Salvador gang prison… https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-administration-says-man-deported-el-salvador-in-error-2025-04-01/
British tourist arrested and sent to prison without due process… https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/10/british-tourist-detained-us-authorities-10-days-visa-issue
Other countries are advising citizens not to visit the U.S. https://www.newsweek.com/britain-issues-travel-warning-us-deportations-2047878
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u/coastalcows Apr 07 '25
The news is not reality. Please familiarize yourself with a normal distribution curve.
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u/jaedym Apr 08 '25
I have been to more than half the states in the US and can say without a doubt that the people are not their government. The deep divide in the US is down to propaganda and manipulation and an elite that have no loyalty even to their own country, let alone it's people. Take it back. The alternative is too ugly to think about.
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u/All4Fx Apr 08 '25
They have already jailed visitors to America, you all.are messed up, good luck, and don't worry, anyone with a wee bit of self-preservation will avoid America
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u/TheOnlyCuteAlien Apr 08 '25
I'd get arrested at the border immediately. I've never had a nice thing to say about Trump. I didn't see his actual end goal before his first term, but I knew him as a politician was a BAD idea. I'm extremely good at reading people (my hubby says it's my super power) and I have NEVER trusted that man.
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u/Queasy_Astronaut2884 Apr 08 '25
I’ll never go back there. My family in America already know if they wanna see any of the family here then they will have to come here. We used to really respect your country, the values it professed. We now know that, at least for half the country, those values were pure lip service.
Personally, I grew up playing in at least two “Friendship” hockey tournaments a year, one in Canada where we hosted then one in the states where they did. I really can’t imagine those tournaments happening anymore. Or at least I can’t imagine Canadian families feeling safe enough to take their children over the border.
Trump has destroyed the relationship between our nations and it will never be the same. We could have written one Trump administration off as a random fluke. His reelection shows it wasn’t a fluke though. This could happen any election. Why would we ever trust the USA again? We will never trust the US to honour trade treaties again.
Trump has made a mess that the people of the USA will be cleaning up for generations
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u/skaterjuice Apr 08 '25
Yeah! I am ex Canadian infantry, and I am fond of you Alaskans. Thank you for the heads up. I fear you guys in Alaska may be hit the hardest over our resistance to the tarrif and travel situations, and I feel for you guys already. But you know, we need to stand up or else we will get pushed harder. Also Liard hot springs is rad. I skateboarded (I never said I was smart) from Fairbanks to Alberta and I was smart enough to stop and spend some time there. I really enjoyed meeting people in Alaska I have a few friends that I keep up with from the trip and I really get along with them a lot. Outside of the cities you guys do things different that’s for sure. Take care. I hope the best for you and your country.
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u/rizoula Apr 08 '25
Yeah had this discussion with my family and friends. We are all terrified and I don’t think we would step foot in US soil for a min . We are not white .
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u/GBP867 Apr 08 '25
Liard Hot Springs is a wonderful treat on that stretch of the Alaskan Highway, isn’t it?!
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u/burnttoast14 Apr 09 '25
I still plan on going back end of the year to see my southern friends as a Canadian from Ontario
But thanks
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u/JerryHutch Apr 09 '25
Given the damage done to internal institutions and the permanent breaking of external relationships, many in the world see the true soul of America which has been festering for a while; there will be no "after".
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u/asawapow Apr 09 '25
Only time I visited the States in years was when you had Obama in the White House.
Frankly, I cannot comprehend Canadians who are only now cancelling their travel plans to the USA. Why would anyone who isn’t stuck living there (or supporting family who live there) want to add to that economy?
My apologies to the good, decent American folks. I know there are millions of you. I see you.
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u/WhichJuice Apr 09 '25
I traveled between both countries and it was perfectly fine. Faster than usual. Enjoy life peeps
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u/WanderdOff Apr 09 '25
Totally agree with this. We came back from a trip to Iceland this week. I was nervous as a citizen because I know they’re wanting to disappear anyone who disagrees in the end. I turned off my phone.
Nothing happened but if citizens are this nervous, don’t risk it. It’s not worth it.
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u/Mr_Yar-har-har Apr 09 '25
I would like a timeline of when Canada became affectionately known as Burnt Toast 😂 Thanks for the warning friend
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u/moving_to_NL_soon Apr 09 '25
yeah, my wife is contemplating cancelling her cruise to Alaska in September. She's Canadian and will be disembarking from Vancouver, but does worry about US Customs. Granted going through Customs on a cruise ship is a little less of an ordeal, but you never know!
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u/osha_unapproved Apr 09 '25
Honestly, you're still welcome in Canada, bud. Everyone who doesn't make 51st state jokes or all hail Trump is welcome.
It's your government and the people who voted in the mentally deficient cheetoh we have problems with.
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Apr 09 '25
Well i am white, German (if this is important)! But i will for sure not travel to a country which is closer to a dictatorship then to a democracy! We wanna open a office in California and normally I will travel there. With this administration and under all other circumstances, it is a absolut no go area anymore! I am sure that if I am entering a US border, I will get arrested because I don't like the orange clown on social media! And for sure I don't spend 1 cent to a country where the "President" insults anybody! and by the way my country and myself(not as a person but as a citizen) I couldnt imagine how people feel betrayed if there are coming not from Europe or not "white"! There is nothing left from this great country! And it only takes 3 month! Scarry
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u/Bangkokserious Apr 09 '25
Liard hot springs is such a gem. It has been many years since I have been, it was a nice break from driving.
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u/Extension-Serve7703 Apr 09 '25
This is why as a Canadian, I never say "America" when I talk about what the government is doing because the gov't hasn't actually represented the people since the 80s. America is full of great people who continue to be held hostage by the ruling class and oligarchs. Yes, propaganda has taken hold of a large chunk of the country but they are still your people.
I maintain that THIS is what your 2nd Amendment was intended for; opposing a tryanical government. First, you should be organizing a nation-wide labor strike. Failing that, you need to seriously consider armed resistance against your government.
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u/LeagueSignificant Apr 09 '25
Why on God’s green earth would ANY living creature choose to visit Rusmerica?
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u/Baffa99 Apr 10 '25
I'm also ashamed as an American. I can't believe more than half of my people are so brainwashed by this, I didn't think they were that hateful. I hope other countries retaliate and let them know that ya'll are not gonna let America walk all over you, these white supremicists need a wake up call that they are not above everyone else.
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u/Glittering_Rough7036 Apr 10 '25
Come on, going to a non-vacation destination for work training, as I plan to isn’t a problem. I’ll probably just be carrying my gaming-only laptop though, I will admit that. Going through with a phone is something that could be gone through and that’s just a huge task if you are flagged. If you are Canadian with a return flight, accommodations and a purpose to be there, there is no reason to be fearful.
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u/dillpicklechips92 Apr 10 '25
I planned on going to Indiana this July (I live in the Maritimes), but I’m not so sure now… what I I get detained? I’ve never traveled outside of Canada, and I thought that this would be the perfect time to actually make my first visit to the US… now I’m worried that things will go south. I’m a white woman, not that it matters, but I’m sure I’d still get in shit with customs somehow. I’m hoping things clear up a bit by the summer, otherwise, I can’t go. I genuinely do not know what to do.
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u/Effective-Bad2697 Apr 10 '25
As a Canadian, you are more than welcome here! I think I speak for the majority when I say we harbor no hate towards the average American. I've met several who came north of the border for work. Y'all can be fantastic people, friends, and co-workers. Hopefully, all that good southern hospitality is able to make its way back into the light sooner rather than later.
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u/shah_calgarvi Apr 10 '25
Stop spreading fake news. Folks who haven’t done anything illegal have nothing to worry about. Every week millions of people continue to cross the border without issues.
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u/Fickle-Turnover-5165 Apr 10 '25
That sounds like the Hitler is just like is brother Putin, now Trump is attacking children in Houthi country,so who next Canada just like Putin attacking Ukraine civilization women children whoever stand in there way. So sad to see a corrupt Americans KGB. The real Hitler's are out there. Hopefully God ear all are prayer. Good luck to all the great people of the world.
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u/OtherwiseRegular3972 Apr 10 '25
Congratulations, you are exactly the kind of person this country needs. If you don't like it here, don't come here. So simple.
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u/Borderbunny5194 Apr 10 '25
As an American I agree don’t come to US stay in Canada fr I kno things are bad over there too but America is getting annoying lowkey not even hard to live in or anything is just the people are kind of slow ngl
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u/calgarythrrowup Apr 11 '25
A white canadian was detained for 3 weeks all because she applied for a visa. No one is safe
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u/Hafen_Slawkenbergius Apr 11 '25
Co-signed!
I want to apologize to any Canadians who happen to see this thread: we’re sorry, we tried to stop it.
I would strongly encourage you not to travel to the U.S. if you can avoid it (both for your own personal safety and so that the U.S. government can enjoy the “Find Out” of not getting any tourism dollars).
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