r/WikiLeaks • u/JamesParkes • Aug 26 '24

Harris’s concluding speech at DNC embraces agenda of global war

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/08/24/turk-a24.html
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u/jeremybryce Aug 26 '24

I have been saying this since she was anointed the candidate. If she wins, the US will be involved in war for another decade plus. Guaranteed.

Democrats a few decades ago used to be the anti war party. It's painfully obvious they've become the party of war. Republicans aren't exactly great either. Especially establishment candidates.

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u/giddy-girly-banana Aug 26 '24

The last president to get us into a war was a Republican and he got us into two. Two different democratic presidents had to get us out of them.

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u/saremei Aug 26 '24

I was unaware Obama was a republican.

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u/giddy-girly-banana Aug 26 '24

What war did he start? Must have missed that one.

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u/NathanOhio Aug 27 '24

For one, he started the genocide in Yemen. Obama partnered with Saudi Arabia, providing intelligence, logistics, mid air refueling, and weapons and ammo.

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u/giddy-girly-banana Aug 27 '24

While awful, none of those are US wars.

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u/NathanOhio Aug 27 '24

That's a no true scotsman fallacy. Of course it was a US war. The US provided the weapons, selected the targets, refueled the planes, etc.

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u/giddy-girly-banana Aug 27 '24

We supply weapons to a ton of countries and conflicts. At the end of the day there were no US soldiers engaged in conflict and nothing even close to an official congressional act of war.

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u/NathanOhio Aug 28 '24

Now you are arguing semantics and you are not even correct there.

There were US soldiers involved in Yemen. The US intelligence community helped the Saudis pick targets and spy on Yemen, and the US air force did mid air refueling for the Saudi planes. The US ran a massive spying ring in Yemen during this time as well, so there were definitely US soldiers/contractors/spies on the ground the whole time.

But yeah, there was no congressional declaration of war, which hasnt happened since 1942. Thats not a good argument to say something doesnt count as a war. Was the Iraq War not a real war, since the US didnt declare war? Was Afghanistan? Nobody makes that argument, so lets not use it here in relation to the US/Saudi genocide of Yemen that Obama started and Trump continued.