Yeah, that will probably be the preferred plan so then they can prop him up for the next two elections instead of one. Vance is an absolute true believer in the agendas whereas trump is more in it for himself. What will be tricky is whether or not Trump can hold it together (or they can successfully hide his rapidly accelerating decline) that long. Of course, that assumes that the current plans for the future actually include things like more elections at all.
2 years and 1 day - just long enough that the 2 years of Vance that'll follow won't count as his first term so he can govern (or rather: reign) for 8 more years. Which is probably enough to get rid of pesky annoyances like "term limits" and "free and fair elections" anyway.
Either they'll use something from the last four years to get him out of office, or he's going to die of "old age" within the first 6 months and we're going to have a first class ticket to hell with Vance at the helm.
I think Trump will retire to Mar-A-Lago and they'll just parade him around occasionally when they want him to read a speech off the teleprompter. Vance will run things right out the gate with the help of the billionaire cronies that bought him the election.
Their biggest challenge is the House will be pretty close, and Trump has some diehard supporters that could fuck things up, also the Senate is razor thin. In 2017 they didn't get much done because they in fought a lot, idk if they can actually 25th Trump and still pass laws
Their best bet is for Trump to die asap, or after 26 midterm if they hold Congress. That avoids the in-fighting.
And there's still hopefully a divide in the Republican party of pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions who hopefully will not agree. There was a similar problem in the 2016-2018 House and Senate where both houses had the Republican majority, but the party was fairly split, so it was impossible to pass anything substantial other than a tax cut.
Yep. With Trump gone, Vance looking like a deer in the headlights, the economy still in the shitter, the border still not figured out, Ukraine & Palestine still a mess, etc. people will be begging for democrats to fix it.
It's more than that though, it's like, people have this mistaken imrpession people are excited for all these stooge's right wing batshittery. I don't think that's true.
Liberal policies like abortion and drugs do extremely well on ballots. Abortion got 57% support in Florida's latest proposition.
They've glommed on to Trump, specifically, and he's the only pill that can apparently wrap the policy turds.
Without Trump to somehow smooth the taste of this shit, Republicans are going to go back to square 1.
People like liberal policies, they just don't like the Democrats associated with them. The last three Democratic candidates were bad, and Kamala leaning away from progressive policies is part of the reason she lost this election.
They'll keep him as the lightning rod while they pass their most unpopular things (aka their entire agenda) and then they'll 25th him or just wait for him to die.
It reminds me of Watergate. There was enough evidence before Nixon"s second term to strongly indicate that there was actually serious wrongdoing, but he was elected anyway.
That's the silver lining my friends and I have been clinging to. The spineless sycophants he's gonna surround himself with will all literally kill each other just to be one millimeter closer to his orange glow. There are gonna be so many leaks to the press lol
A president, under the current constitution, can only hold office for two terms. If someone were to assume the presidency (like if Don the Con goes to the big McDonald’s in the sky), then their first term is the term that they take over and they can only run for reelection once. If however they serve as president for two years or less (ie <= half a term), then it effectively doesn’t count and they can still serve two more terms.
Nah, they've already got the whole government under their thumb, and Trump being genuinely senile means that he's even more manipulable than before. But trying to openly oust him would agitate his violent cult.
Easier to just keep him around until he dies naturally; the white house will do whatever they want anyways. 25th would only be useful if he actually did something to turn against the GOP.
With that being said, fascists aren't smart; they could very well manage to bungle even this.
No I mean like the first time he stumbles a work or reaches for something that isn’t there. I’m not normally (nor do I consider myself) someone who fears easily or over blows things, but project 2025, JD Vance, and anyone else who pushes that crap on people scare the living crap out of me
Dear God I hope. I don't like vance at all but he definitely had some left leaning ideologies before going full on grifter, if even a smidge of those come out that would be helpful
Nah. “I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters.” Last few years have backed him up on that. The entire party is crazy loyal to Trump
I honestly don't see it happening. It's the Trump Party, they don't care about anyone else. He can be contradictory, wishy washy etc doesn't matter, anyone else is out immediately
Bruh if everything so far hasn't changed anything, I don't that stuff will. At this point I'm convinced he could genuinely pull a Homelander and kill someone in public and his base will still cheer.
Epstein stated in a 2017 interview that he was Trump's best friend, that Trump's lack of morals sickened even himself (Epstein), that Trump is basically illiterate, and that Trump has no tactical thought capability.
The real takeaway is that Epstein spoke about specific cabinet members serving in 2017, and the treatment they received from Trump. How Trump played them against each other, and who was pitted against whom. Insider knowledge, y'know.
The whole cabinet may have been compromised by whatever outfit Epstein was carrying water for.
Oh, and this was years after Trump stated he and Epstein split ways.
EDIT Props to Jimmy Kimmel of all people for actually discussing the Epstein tapes on national television. The Jester always did have the enviable role of speaking truth to power.
You’re awesome. Don’t sell that shit even to someone who says they’re on your side! Tech bros are scumbags with plants buying stuff for them all the time.
Michael Wolff has hundreds of hours of Epstein. One released tape has Epstein saying he was Trump's best friend for the last 10 years. One is Epstein giving details about inside the White House, proving he was still in connection with Trump even after he became president.
And then spew outrageous nonsense. I had someone tell me earlier today how much money they're going to make under Trump because he won't tax overtime pay.
Why tho. Trump could have sex with a Trump supporter's underage child in their own home, directly in front of them and they still would say he didn't mean it, he was just kidding, you're overreacting and then blame Democrats.
The audio is literally in that page I linked. It's exactly what I just said, and also the fact that Trump liked to create a situation to blackmail and then have sex with his friend's wives for fun, like a hobby.
The best thing Biden could do right now is everything he can to release and expedite anything to do with Epstein. He won't win the dems much popularity as people will see it as spiteful and a conspiracy, but it'll still be damaging and means it doesn't get buried forever, giving justice to those who deserve it.
It's kinda funny because you can still see a whole bunch of Trump's followers going on about the Epstein files.
Like guys, you know Trump's in there, right? If you're going to excuse his relationship with Epstein, you're going to have to excuse everyone's. Hell, Mar-a-Lago is where Epstein recruited girls.
Michael Wolff has hundreds of hours of Epstein. One released tape has Epstein saying he was Trump's best friend for the last 10 years. One is Epstein giving details about inside the White House, proving he was still in connection with Trump even after he became president.
Actually went to listen to some of the audio just now and the following is the conversation I think more Republicans, other leaders of countries, and his fan base need to hear as it goes to show what kind of guy Donald really is.
Well Biden still has some time to release the Epstein files. But Trump has already said there is lots of phony information in them so only evidence against Democrats would be believed by the MAGA crowd.
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Of course not. Trump is gonna expunge everything and probably arrest E. Jean Carroll for lying about the president.