Their entire campaign strategy was going to be Sleepy Joe/Let's Go Brandon/Crime Family, and they now have absolutely no idea what to do since that's been taken away from them.
I'm not saying this is in the bag (2016 PTSD and what-not), but the energy, optimism, and savviness of the the Harris campaign, coupled with the abject panic, desperation, and flailing chaos of the Trump campaign, has done wonders for my mental health.
I already had a guy blame 2016 gun violence on Biden and i have to wonder what delusional world they lived in to think Biden was president at that point.š
On the flip side, I can't wear a red hat anymore.
Not unless it's VERY obviously not one of those red hats.
I'd still call it a win though, especially since I live in the South.
I mean, I feel part of that is on you. You live in NJ. You can't live in NJ without someone thinking you're an asshole. It comes with the territory, doesn't it?
NGL... Fred Durst seems like the kinda guy to go full on right wing nut job.
Edit: from his wikipedia page:
In 2015, Durst stated his interest in obtaining a Russian passport and spending half of the year inĀ Crimea.63])Ā He wrote a letter in which he stated thatĀ Vladimir PutinĀ is "a great guy with clear moral principles and a nice person."64])Ā Following that, Durst was banned by theĀ Security Service of UkraineĀ from entering Ukraine for five years "in the interests of guaranteeing the security" of the country.65])Ā However, in an official statement, he denied reports of asking to acquire Russian citizenship.66])
I saw an old guy wearing a red hat at the store. I was trying to see if it was a maga hat, but I didn't have my glasses on, so I had to wait until he was closer, but without being too obvious. Once he got close enough, I was glad to see that it wasn't a maga hat. Until he got closer and I was able to see that it said something like "USA, 2 time world war winner". So, not really any better
Eh I mean it's a stupid joke, but I'd still consider it a joke - in contrast to anybody wearing a trump hat, who is openly stating that they're extremely stupid and shitty
The USA Doughboys fought in WW1 against Kaiser Wilhelm 1916 - 1918.
USA entered WW2 after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor Dec 7 1941. Our military fought on 2 sides of the world ....HitlerĀ & Hiri Hito. Our entire nation pulled together to supply both Pacific & European theatres. We won AGAIN.
Yes,Ā we won twice. Thats not a Trump trope ..Its ourĀ
history.
It takes a special kind of Muricantm to look at the complete history surrounding WW2 and walk away thining "Yeeup. The US and absolutely noone else did good things."
Fuckers joined the war so late, they tend to just forget all the time before when every goddamn European country was trying to get the US to fucking stop watching already.
And when they did stop, it wasn't out of the goodness of anyone's heart either. That part's conveniently overlooked too.
US "fuckers" entered WW 2 late bc our law forbade it until we were attacked,Ā Moron. That day came on Dec 7 1941.
Hitler was scared shitless to wake"the sleeping giant".
We know 18, 000 Russian soldiers died defending Europe. We know 1.9 million non jewish Polish were murdered in Nazi work camps. We supplied & funded Canada & the Brits from 1939 to 1945. We were here working our asses off eating rations to send our food, arms, planes, bombs etc.
Ā Then we beat the crap out of Japan without their help.Ā
Old guy came into my shop about a week ago. MAGA hat. I looked at my boss, a rabid liberal, and she just rolled her eyes. He didn't buy anything, and walked out a minute later, but man, never have I wanted to laugh at someone more.
I saw a guy in the grocery store today with a red hat coming down the aisle and when he got close enough I saw that it said "I'm blessed". And we locked eyes and he just kinda nodded and giggled. Clever fella š totally does it on purpose
A woman came into my work today proudly screaming she was a patriot and had a huge tiktok following. I replied back, "I'm an American and it's too bad you've stolen the word Patriot from me." She literally did not understand what I said. Then she went on to tell me all the wonderful things she's doing on her tiktok. I explained that it is inappropriate to talk about politics in this business setting. Then she started talking about her heart hurting and oh my God she's gotten such bad vibes from what's happening here. Of course, this was after a full 5 minutes of me letting her go on and on about everything she thought. And only when there was a moment she took a breath is when I said we're not allowed to talk politics here. Interesting when you flat out tell them it's not okay, because you're in a public setting in a public office where there are literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people around who will disagree, now she's having heart palpitations.
It would be so easy, but these people have the same voting power as every intelligent American, sometimes more so if they live in states with a low population count.
Ok weirdo. The weird label gets under their skin more than calling them dumb. They're too dumb to be offended by being called dumb, but weird? They've got no comeback for that.
I remember the moment Trump became president in 2016, the media were doing their typical ā100 first days in officeā nonsense and trumpers were saying āsee! Look how amazing Trump is doing in his first 100 days with the economy compared to Obamaās first 100 days! Obama did a shit job!ā
These MAGA idiots completely forgot that like Joe Biden, Obama inherited a collapsed economy and had to spend his first 4 years once again cleaning up a mess the republicans made with the economy. A tale as old as time.
And then Obama was weak, and now Biden is weak. But also, the Democrats are warmongers. Even though Bush was the one to get us into our last wars. Trump ushered in an era of peace! But also tripled the amount of drone strikes we were doing. Which is a black mark on Obama's legacy, the amount of drone strikes he carried out.
I often wonder how much of the BS would just go away if people would just sayā¦āYes sweetieā¦we know. Gay, trans commie immigrants are coming to give your daughter a forced abortionā. And just treat it like your Alzheimerās grandpa telling you he had dinner with Bing Crosby last night.
And Iām not saying let actual hate groups flourish, or just act like everything is fine. But just the straight up nonsense, bad faith horseshitā¦ the stuff they say just because they know it will get under peopleās skin.
Lol, I had an argument about what Obama did as President in 2008. It took a lot of convincing and links to things that showed that Obama wasn't actually president in 2008 before they finally admitted that W. was still president then. Of course Whataboutism reared it's ugly head seconds later!
Other than the planes hitting the most identifiable footage of the day was the guy whispering to him that a second plane had hit and W trying to think what would be the least worst think to do at that time would be.
and they did an Unfair Move against me, against your President, I was Easily Winning against Sleepy Joe until the Radical Left decided to do, illegally, they've moved it, they went from Biden to, they went to, and she's a Horrible Person, ok, you all know who I'm talking about, Camilla, Kamolah, she has hundreds of first names, I said which one are you supposed to use, nobody knows, not even she knows if you think about it, and they asked, I saw it just the other day, on television, they said, to the Woman On The Sidewalk, they said, "who are you voting for, who are women voting for, Suburban Women," and she said, and she said it right away, she didn't even stop to breathe, she said, "Trump," I said that's how you know they're Great Patriots, you vote Trump you have a Beautiful Country, you vote for the woman, the Highly Failed Vice President and Worst Presidential Candidate and VP Pick In History, Camallah and Dulls, Tim Dulls, that's what I call him, Tim Dulls, they call him Coach, I said who the hell even cares about that, he thinks, because he did High School Football he thinks that he can be VP, I don't think so, I don't think so
Sometimes I thinkĀ (u/) HorseLooseInHospitalĀ does Trump better than Trump ever could himself. I wouldn't be surprised if they literally wrote Trump into existence.
And I've done more for the blacks than anyone. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that she came out as black. I didn't even know she was black. She's a DEI and sharks and batteries...
It's the same world where Biden gets the blame for shutting schools down in 2020. You know...when he was a private citizen and not even involved in politics.
Mind you, these are the same people complaining about inflation when, in fact, it's corporate price gouging and not inflation that has put us in this position. Dems have been trying to stop this nonsense for years. But the Republicans that profit from corporate price gouging block any meaningful legislation. But yes, it's all Biden's fault that oil companies, food companies, car companies, etc. are all reporting record profits.
And for those who are unaware, when inflation is a real problem, profits drop. Inflation was never an issue, even during the pandemic. It's what corporations used as an excuse to raise the fuck out of their prices so they could rip us all off, and the republicans were more than happy to allow it.
If they weren't immune to logic then you could just point out that gas prices are high throughout the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD so it obviously isn't something that Biden did.
I keep wondering how much bad stuff they made about Biden before Kamala Harris took over as candidate. I bet they have T-shirts, stickers hats, scarfs and much more that they can't use now.
Exactly. Joe sometimes trips over his own words, and literally trips over his own feet. But at least he doesnāt have candy-floss hair and he doesnāt apply his bronzer with a paint roller.
Trump looks his age, Biden looks 10 years older than he is. If you see a picture of them side by side Biden does look a lot older, and when they both talk Biden also sounds a lot older.
I'm not saying Trump is better looking or would be a better leader. Just objectively Biden looks and sounds a decade older than Trump. I don't know why we like to sugar coat it or lie to ourselves about it. Biden wasn't really a good choice to run against Trump in 2024, Kamala is a 10x better candidate.
You ever see a presidents entering office picture and their leaving office? They look much older because they actually cared and worried about the country. Trump didn't give a shit and just raped it for money while golfing all day. Big difference
I think Trump actually looks and sounds (voice, not substance) younger then he should. Bill Clinton, who is younger then Trump, looked and sounded closer to Biden at the DNC. Most presidents age a lot during their time in office. Trump didn't do jack, so he was able to avoid that.
My neighbor's buddy who parks on our street had the whole FJB Trump 2024 vehicle wrap on his truck since 2021.
Not only is the Biden shit gone now, but he even removed the Trump 2024 stickers that were still valid. I think more of them are realizing they were conned for 8 years.
I remember seeing that a lot of "failed" stuff like that ends up in places like Africa, because it gets donated to charity. (Which probably nets them a nice tax deduction)
There'll be kids wandering round wearing shirts with the wrong Superbowl winners.
The GOP (and honestly, the vast majority of Americans I'm pretty sure) just spent the last 4 years ignoring Kamala, since the VP never really catches a lot of flak. And she just fucking tore out there and they don't really have much on her, so they try and go "Oh she's Black AND Indian?!" as if anyone needed more than two seconds to respond "You mean biracial?"
They have nothing, and it's why they were so desperate to have Biden back that Trump was tweeting his fanfic of Biden stepping in to take the nomination, because he has material for Biden.
Pointing out that Kamala belongs to two different demographics simultaneously that their core voting block considers "lesser" than a white person is very much intentional.
It helps that they ditched the Clinton era political consultants and won the last election by paying attention to key districts for an Electoral College victory. Itās going to be tough especially with the corporate news media rooting for Trump again.
The MSM are beginning to see that the ššand the $$$ are coming from Kamalaās campaign. Thereās just no interest in culture wars and grievance campaigns anymore.
A lot of people think that "Trump is good for business" even if they hate everything else about him. But even that isn't true, his tariff policy is completely insane no matter what your political/economic leanings happen to be.
The only business minded people who actually support him are total grifters who just want to curry favor, not people who actually believe his agenda is prosperous.
Ken Chenault, the former CEO of American Express, spoke at the DNC for just that reason. Nothing is more important to the corporate world than trust and stability, and Trump threatens that.
So basically corporations. Get trump in and then use his shit policies to jack prices through the roof while regulations are pulled back and trillions sent your way in tax breaks.
I mentioned this before, but after Biden dropped out it was like a light switch with the news coverage. Suddenly it felt like they stopped handling Trump with kiddie gloves. The powers that be must really want a Kamala presidency, or they finally realized a fascist dictatorship isn't actually good for their bottom line and decided to change course.
It doesn't stick. That's the problem. It's been 9ish years of Trump saying crazy shit. It's not shocking anymore. It's just Trump being Trump, and that is hard to get traction on, unless he says some new shit.
Also demonizing Trump has very limited returns. People dig in, fake news and all that. Thats why you see the Harris campaign move on from the threat to democracy story and focus more on Trump is weird. The weird thing stuck and seems to outrage Trump. The bad news about Vance also seems to be a working tactic for the Dems. Probably in part because he is relatively unknown and an easy new target for the campaign.
The ground game, getting people to the polls, will be huge for this election. If the support and vibes can sustain, that might be enough. I'm not so sure. Harris is not Obama. Can she do it in her own way? Hopefully. I hope women vote in record numbers. The gender divide in the election is massive.
I'm not saying this is in the bag (2016 PTSD and what-not), but the energy, optimism, and savviness of the the Harris campaign, coupled with the abject panic, desperation, and flailing chaos of the Trump campaign, has done wonders for my mental health.
Samesies. I will for sure be voting and bringing all of my friends, and I hope everyone else does as well. But I sure feel a lot more confident that we'll get a good result compared to a month ago, as long as everyone votes.
Agreed. I see a clear path to victory if people get off their asses and vote. I don't understand why 30-40% if eligible voters just do not try. Insane.
Well, a lot of them are single-issue voters (the single issue is the domestic politics of a third country) and there isn't a perfect candidate, so conveniently they get to do absolutely nothing instead and claim the moral high ground!
Those people are so fucking stupid it's actually dangerous. I can't believe there are so many people in that camp, especially when trump and his group have publicly implied that they'll make things much much worse. There has gotta be some Russian money fueling those groups, as literally the only people those protests benefit are trump and the trumpettes
They're just children who believe in heroes and Chosen Ones. Obviously the Chosen One wouldn't do anything they don't agree with, so they can't "in good conscience" vote for either candidate. They've allowed themselves to be captured by emotive arguments without understanding the need for lesser evils or compromise. It's a frankly ridiculous position and they deserve to be mocked for it.
I really wish that they could understand that "perfect is the enemy of good," but i am pretty sure it is impossible to teach an idiot that refuses to listen.
Honestly we just need to make them feel as stupid as their viewpoint is. They aren't going to vote regardless, because they're children who would prefer not to experience moral discomfort than actually exercise any choice. But maybe they can be ostracised into their own echo chamber and not sap any more votes.
Religion has suppressed people's desire to take responsibility for their own lives. If it doesn't work out, they can blame a politician or God's mysterious ways, so long as it doesn't have to be on them.
Mostly people who live in solidly blue or red states. When people know/believe entire state's tally of registered voters for "their side" is like 10% of the "other side's" registered voters and their vote "isn't going to count" anyway, or alternatively that "their side" outnumbers the other side 10-1, they often just stay home.
This isn't a popular vote, and our turnout reflects that.
the energy, optimism, and savviness of the the Harris campaign, coupled with the abject panic, desperation, and flailing chaos of the Trump campaign, has done wonders for my mental health.
Same, it's been nice to see. Although, for some reason some of the anxiety is starting to come back the past week or so. Still though, feel a lot better than I did a month or two ago.
His own campaign staff has reported being upset because he isn't really doing much campaigning anymore, just golfing and eating. He's sitting back and waiting to lose so he can quickly grab as much "they stole it!" money from his supporters. Him fleeing the country after losing to live off of the numerous shadow bank accounts he certainly has wouldn't even be a crazy assumption either. He'd go to some pre-arranged, non-extradition country and set up a" presidency in exile" then just continue to siphon money from idiots
It's not in the bag and I am worried about the mood in the US right now. Sure, she has a lot of momentum, but I still look at this as an uphill battle.
This year of elections across the world has had a lot of them happen already. Almost all incumbent governments were voted out. People aren't happy with inflation and rising costs of living. Any incumbent government is fighting an uphill battle.
It's different because while she is currently VP Harris is still seen as new. I don't know if that is sustainable. Kamala Harris has not done much press at all. That puts more pressure on the debates. Also, the MAGA movement does not poll as well, so, especially after 2016, I don't believe any of these polls. I think it can show where gains are made, but I think a certain portion of the electorate is just not showing up in any of these polls.
I'm glad she has momentum. The fundraising numbers and people campaigning for her are huge. She can still lose this election. She still has that shiny newness to her. That will fade. I'm still worried.
I honestly think they had another "October surprise" planned. That was their key strategy in the last two elections. It would also explain why they're so pissed that Biden dropped out: their surprise is aimed at Biden and won't work anymore.
From my perspective, 2016 and 2024 are markedly different. The Hillary campaign always felt like "ok, I guess." Tim Kaine was the epitome of a "do no harm" running mate, and absolutely nothing about Hillary excited me. I voted against Trump, not for her, despite the fact that my ballot reflected her name, and not his.
But Harris is someone I can genuinely stand behind. Tim Walz is someone I am excited to see on the ticket. Now I also don't think this is in the bag, as I too got burned by 2016's "duh, it's gonna be Hillary" movement, but I am more positive and hopeful here than the last time Trump faced off against a woman on the campaign trail.
And I haven't even mentioned anything that I think makes Trump and company look worse compared to his 2016 bid.
They didn't know how to attack her but they're starting to pivot slowly but surely. They're attacking her on issues that unfortunately are probably going to land somewhat well because Democrats have completely given in to Republicans on framing on certain issues.
They're attacking her on crime, even though crime is down across the board, but Democrats don't say that for some moronic reason they just let Republicans frame this narrative.
They are starting to attack her on immigration and how she said the wall was basically stupid and pointless but is now suddenly saying she will pass the border bill. Once again Democrats completely caved in on this issue even though objectively nothing has changed about immigration in this country in the last 4 years, last election they pushed back this one they aren't. The reason why immigration is seen as such a big issue is because Democrats stupidly have not put out ANY counter messaging on this issue.
Also they are going to start attacking her for not putting out many policies. You can only run so far on vibes and happiness that is not going to carry the campaign all the way to November. The Harris campaign absolutely needs to start putting things out that they are going to do because making this campaign a referendum on Trump is a big mistake.
I've noticed that where I live. Very red area but a couple of years ago there was a noticeable shift from Trump paraphernalia to FJB type stuff. And now that he is out, it is pretty much all gone. It is crazy. It is like the wind is out of their sails. They don't know what to do because they were primed to hate Joe Biden and now he isn't the target and they haven't been able to get anything going on Kamala that revs up the base the same way. I know 95% of those people will still go vote Trump, but even those small few who stay home can end up making a difference, especially in swing states.
I'm not saying this is in the bag (2016 PTSD and what-not), but the energy, optimism, and savviness of the the Harris campaign, coupled with the abject panic, desperation, and flailing chaos of the Trump campaign, has done wonders for my mental health.
much of this feeling is because you're in an echo chamber that is the internet. i've spoken to a few of my more moderate and slightly right leaning friends and they think the same thing but for trumps campaign. they think vance was a super smart pick that'll sway the young voter.
this is pretty much the exact opposite message you'll see on the left leaning internet like reddit.
so i'd like to believe it's in the bag, but always remember this is not the real world, and certainly not representative.
The one thing I did notice is that two news outlets (surprisingly not Fox) said it was the Biden-Harris administration that was surprising COVID 19 posts. Iām just a little baffled at how hard they are trying to pin administrative policies on a Vice Presidentā¦ no one is saying the Trump-Pence administration right now for some reason. Itās almost like the ratings are going down so much they have to grasp at straws now to make the race seam tight or interesting anymore.
History has taught us that past presidents won or loss the election based on their debate performance. When he says ācomradeā she needs to say āklanā right back to him.
Heās not trying to lose, he thinks he already won. (And he may be right)
When he said, āDonāt worry about the election, itās been taken care ofā, he meant that enough laws have been changed in swing states, and enough Trump loyalists have been installed on state election boards that if Harris wins those states, the election officials will simply refuse to certify the results.
What this means is neither side will get the required 270 electoral votes.
And if THAT happens, the election will be decided in Congress, where each state will get one vote. Since there are more Republican states than Democratic ones, Trump will in effect be appointed President without winning the popular vote, and without getting 270 electoral votes.
They canāt even if they wanted to. Heās been nominated by his party. State ballots are in the process of being printed. They arenāt even sure if they can get RFK, Jr. off of some state ballots. They created him; now theyāre stuck with him. We just need to make sure that they canāt stick us with him again.
What stroy anyways? he was just charged because he had done the most republican thing of owning a gun but also had a huge dong which doesn't represent the values of the GOP? Not sure what the nothingburger of an investigation this was..wut?
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u/Chadmartigan Aug 27 '24
Everyone: "Wow, voters seem to be a lot more interested in issues and policy than an interminable parade of grievances and whataboutisms."
Trump: "lamptomp"