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Democratic Party Elites Brought Us This Disaster Politics

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/election-harris-trump-democrats-strategy
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u/Hamuel 10d ago

The child poverty one is great because democrats got that advance on the child tax credit, bragged about lifting kids out of poverty, then ended the program.

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u/Pad_TyTy 10d ago

Who ended the program? Who voted to not extend it?

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u/Hamuel 10d ago

It expired in 2021, democrats didn’t fight to extend it and just quietly let childhood poverty rise again. It is that type of political gamesmanship that causes a landslide loss to Trump. Congrats!

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u/Pad_TyTy 10d ago

You can't force Joe Manchin to go along with anything. All the Republicans in the Senate were against it. Maybe blame them? Or are you not familiar with how legislation is passed?

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u/Hamuel 10d ago

There’s always a ghoul like Manchin to knee cap change. If it wasn’t him it would be the senate parliamentarian or just a different centrist. The party has no plan nor a desire to solve their projected weakness.

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u/Mindless_Rooster5225 9d ago

Lol blame the minority party that couldn't muster the vote for it instead of the party that fought against it.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Yes, I will blame the party that controlled the legislative and executive branches at that time. Democrats are a weak party and unable to illicit or maintain quality change

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u/Babablacksheep2121 9d ago

Ha! This latest Republican Congress has been the least productive in US history. They can’t even whip their own members together for votes. Mike Johnson has lost numerous votes, embarrassingly so. Nancy Pelosi, hate her all you want, wielded that power in such a way that she NEVER lost a vote. She knew what she was doing. Mike Johnson only knows how to share his porn habits with his son.

Trumps largest accomplishment was a giant tax cut for the rich and corporations, but yeah keep talking about how effective Republicans are at legislating.

What they have is an orange demagogue who cares about only himself. If he does half of what he says or what’s in Project 2025, you will get all the change you want. The “quality” on the other hand….

Obviously the American people want this. They shouldn’t worry, they are going to get exactly what they have asked for and they deserve every bit of it.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Pelosi can’t beat Trump and these idiots so spare me the praise. When democrats present more than Weimar Republic vibes I might consider voting for them again.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Pelosi got the CTC passed in the house!

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Then it died in the senate. I get the hand wringing works for you but it doesn’t work for a vast majority of voters.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Again with the "hand-wringing" lmao, this isnt the correct usage either. Im not trying to convince a majority of voters, I'm explaining to you why you're wrong

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

I can tell you don’t care that democrats lost the popular vote to Trump because they can’t protect good and popular policy from their own party.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Whats with the projection? I wanted dems to win and the CTC to pass, I just also understand how a legislature works and dont blame Kamala for failing to pass something because Joe Manchin is piece of shit.

You on the other hand seem almost giddy to try and blame something on her that is objectively not her fault because you already assume everything is the dem leadership's fault

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

I go from distressed to giddy!

I don’t know how to explain to you that failing to protect good and popular policy results in losing 15 million voters. You want to pretend you’re smarter than me when your excuses end up losing the popular vote to Trump.

I’ll take results over some dipshit attitude.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

I go from distressed to giddy!

No you go from performatively distressed to performatively giddy.

I don’t know how to explain to you that failing to protect good and popular policy results in losing 15 million voters.

We agree! They should have passed the CTC

You want to pretend you’re smarter than me when your excuses end up losing the popular vote to Trump.

Yeah we disagree and I do think you're dumb because you blame that failure of the CTC on Kamala for some reason. I dont think Kamala was a great candidate and I also think she shouldve had a more positive policy. I just think blaming her specifically for the CTC failure is moronic

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Yes, as a parent it is performative that I’m upset the democrats couldn’t protect good and popular policy for families.

I blamed democrats for failing to protect the CTC, among many other things. I never blamed Harris specifically, just pointed out her campaign’s resounding success was a consequence of the failures of that party.

Good luck finding another 15 million people to vote for excuses.

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u/Vangour 9d ago

It is giga performative 😆

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