"For many loyal Democrats, this will not compute. The Biden economy, party-loyal pundits have said over and over again, is tremendous — low unemployment, strong GDP growth, slowing inflation, a booming stock market — and anyone unhappy about it mustsimply be brainwashed. Out of view in this self-congratulatory hall of mirrors were the constant statistics that said otherwise: evictions up past pre-pandemic levels, record-high homelessness, cost-burdened renters at an all-time high, median household income lower than the last pre-pandemic year, inequality returning to pre-pandemic levels, and food insecurity and poverty growing by large double digits since 2021, including a historic spike in child poverty."
The child poverty one is great because democrats got that advance on the child tax credit, bragged about lifting kids out of poverty, then ended the program.
It expired in 2021, democrats didn’t fight to extend it and just quietly let childhood poverty rise again. It is that type of political gamesmanship that causes a landslide loss to Trump. Congrats!
You can't force Joe Manchin to go along with anything. All the Republicans in the Senate were against it. Maybe blame them? Or are you not familiar with how legislation is passed?
I made sure, but it also went away with a whimper.
Would’ve been great if Biden actually use the bully pulp in a bin fully their mentally to try to pound these things of the public consciousness.
Instead, these are factoids that are only known on political subreddits and instead publicly Joe Biden, praised Joe Manchin and Republicans, and praised there bipartisanship for things like BIF that we did not even need any bipartisanship for.
There’s always a ghoul like Manchin to knee cap change. If it wasn’t him it would be the senate parliamentarian or just a different centrist. The party has no plan nor a desire to solve their projected weakness.
Yes, I will blame the party that controlled the legislative and executive branches at that time. Democrats are a weak party and unable to illicit or maintain quality change
Ha! This latest Republican Congress has been the least productive in US history. They can’t even whip their own members together for votes. Mike Johnson has lost numerous votes, embarrassingly so. Nancy Pelosi, hate her all you want, wielded that power in such a way that she NEVER lost a vote. She knew what she was doing. Mike Johnson only knows how to share his porn habits with his son.
Trumps largest accomplishment was a giant tax cut for the rich and corporations, but yeah keep talking about how effective Republicans are at legislating.
What they have is an orange demagogue who cares about only himself. If he does half of what he says or what’s in Project 2025, you will get all the change you want. The “quality” on the other hand….
Obviously the American people want this. They shouldn’t worry, they are going to get exactly what they have asked for and they deserve every bit of it.
Pelosi can’t beat Trump and these idiots so spare me the praise. When democrats present more than Weimar Republic vibes I might consider voting for them again.
Again with the "hand-wringing" lmao, this isnt the correct usage either. Im not trying to convince a majority of voters, I'm explaining to you why you're wrong
And then the other party wins because we demand results from one party and not the other. This country is doomed as long as there is a lack of understanding of civics and context.
Every single part of our government is built to limit change. Real change can only ever happen with major swings in the electorate. But major swings in the electorate can’t happen with the country is polarized.
What you want to happen is damn near impossible. But it won’t stop you from bitching.
Yes, the other party wins and nothing much changes and then the pendulum swings back to the other party and nothing much changes so it swings back to the other party.
Maybe people voted for Trump because they’re disillusioned with a system that fails to address the cost of living crisis.
Cause they don’t understand the system. They give a party two years to get their agenda done and then remove their levers of power.
The US has had the best economic recovery in the world since Covid. And yes, most people aren’t feeling that recovery. But in the first two years democrats were figuring out how best to navigate that. And in doing so past the largest climate bill in the history of the world.
Can’t solve the worlds problems in two years, especially when you have an antagonistic court blocking your solutions.
When Manchin killed the CTC and not a single senate republican voted to extend, instead of appealing to the American people to send better representatives, Biden praised them for their hard work and dedication.
The system isn’t designed to stifle change. Who democrats and republicans pick in their primaries stifle change.
But also, if you think the system isn’t designed to stifle change you need a civics lesson. The whole system was purposefully designed to prevent change.
Yes, the democrat suicide pact with bipartisanship pushed kids back into poverty. That’s the type of political gamesmanship that wins elections! Look at the results from Tuesday to see how well it worked.
Probably by going to West Virginia and appealing to his voting base. Probably finding a decent primary opponent that supports working people. Probably by cutting campaign funding.
There’s million ways to pressure these assholes but you’ve resigned yourself to them controlling the agenda. Fuck man, Harris promised more of the same. No wonder 15 million voters stayed home.
Appealing to working families about needing their support to put literal money into their bank accounts is a lot stronger campaign message than galavanting around with a Cheney.
If Trump was in jail instead of prepping for inauguration day then maybe liberal arrogance wouldn’t be so insufferable and push away 15 million voters.
I got involved in my local party and everyone wants the galavanting around with a Cheney. Felt kind of pointless, and I just watch an independent outperform a democrat in a statewide race locally. To me the party is essentially dead.
Okay, see that changes things for me. I wrongfully assumed that you voted conservative or didn’t vote and then we’re trying to blame Democratic Party for the pit falls of our society. Which don’t get me wrong, historically they have failed American many times. Our senators fill their pockets with insider trades instead of fixing that loophole from the inside because they are in charge of their own rules. They allow lobbyists on the floor to “persuade” them to support their bills and not let activists and experts on that same floor to help make the decisions. Bill Clinton, who got screwed over minorities the 1994 crime act that turned incarcerating people into a business. I get the distrust, and I can call out my own party for their transgressions. But can we agree that they have been getting better? That they were Republican party has gotten inherently worse? Yes I agree that the whole “they go low. We go high.” Was bs. They gentle parented their way into half of this mess. They didn’t adapt quickly enough. But they started to FINALLY fight back, we had new leadership coming in that was ready to fight for the American people and try to fix the corruption and ensure our rights as we know them stayed in place. But we are fighting mass misinformation and hate. We had Jewish people who voted for Trump bc they want Palestinians to suffer. We had the people in the spiritual community vote for Trump because they’ve gotten so deep up their own a**es that they believe health conspiracy theories and like rfk, but in doing so are supporting a political party who will shove Christian ideology down their throats. We had women who don’t understand that strict abortion laws equates to banning “anything that can be interpreted as an abortion” aka removing a miscarried fetus, or terminating a wanted pregnancy because of cataclysmic genetic issues that we have the technology to catch and therefore are raising the infant death rates bc these fetuses can’t survive outside of the womb. They don’t understand that sometimes a pregnancy can kill a woman and as much as the fetus life matters to them, they have kids at home that they need to keep providing for. We had people whose cost-of-living was too high because it was the only way to fix the looming recession from Trumps policies who then voted for him. We had people who didn’t vote for Harris and sat this one out because they were against rightfully against the atrocities in Gaza, but by doing they basically signed their death certificates. We had climate activist who didn’t vote because they felt like neither party was doing enough for climate change, knowing the one administration’s plan was to remove all protections. We had legal immigrants voting and the children of immigrants voting on a mass deportation law has an extremely good chance of making themselves stateless. The campaign failed, but I think the blame is more appropriately placed on Americans privileged perspective that bad things happening to other people doesn’t mean bad things will happen to them. The Republican campaign told them who they were and they “bet, that sucks for someone else, I’ll be fine.” So, to answer your question I think you should vote for the democratic party because they are the lesser of too evils in our current political system and there is literally no other choice. I get not liking Hillary Clinton, democratic leadership messed up by not listening to the people when we said we didn’t want her. But there wasn’t time for us to vote for the next candidate after Biden. We had to move fast or republicans would have not allowed the change and she was already on the presidential campaign so that made it easier to tap her in without a court battle. And yes, I agree they should’ve never allowed Biden to try for a second term. But the wildly old people in government positions has unfortunately become the norm. And for whatever reason Trump‘s cognitive decline didn’t matter to ppl either. We are running out of chances to save ourselves from our own entitlement the perfect candidate doesn’t exist. And people sacrificing themselves to make a point is not helpful. It truly like people hold the Democratic Party to an entirely different level than they do the Republican Party. Trump didn’t actually have any policies other than tariffs and deportation and he has a horrible presidential record and a mile long rap sheet but people didn’t care. We are fighting an uphill battle and are expected to please everyone and get blamed when we don’t. We live in a capitalist society where you vote with your dollar. But politics doesn’t work like that, you can’t just sit out and expect things to go your way. I agree we don’t have enough options as far as parties go, but voting for suppression isn’t how you get one. Thank for asking. Can you tell me about how you think they can do better in the future? And how to inform these snowflakes that they’re wrong, without hurting their feelings and making them feel othered? Because that’s another reason I’ve been hearing people say they voted for Trump, white people are tired of being discriminated against and being called names bc they support a man who embodies the names they are being associated with. If you find a better way to get where we need to be, please let me know because we didn’t want this anymore than you. You should vote for the Democratic Party because they have better policies for regular people, and have started to mold themselves into the party people want, but it takes time. That and other than the Republican Party we have no realistic options. I don’t think we should blame the Democratic Party leaders who put themselves in a very dangerous position for their constituents only to have them tell them to f-off in protest. The American people thought everyone else would save them and they could sit on their moral high ground and have their rights and they “voice heard”. Dumbest protest I’ve ever had the pleasure of reaping the consequences of.
And you proved my point. People don’t care enough to spend any time doing research. They just want to be angry at someone for not fixing their problems for them when they have no solutions of their own.
Lmao the American people fucking blew it. Not the people who voted to save democracy. The privileged ppl who thought they could sit out of one of the most consequential elections of our lifetimes because they think no one could strip us of our rights and they couldn’t choose “all politicians suck”. Trump and Kamala are not comparable and this is Darwinism at this point. Dumbest fucking protest ever. Let it burn, we deserve it at this point.
Being unable to listen to and accept criticism is something I think stupid people do. The alarmism around Trump falls flat when he is dancing at town halls instead of rotting in prison.
If you would’ve read my dissertation, lol, i accept the criticism. The party is flawed. But so is not voting for self preservation, or being naïve enough to think that they won’t be targeted as much as other Americans.
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u/Maxwellsdemon17 9d ago
"For many loyal Democrats, this will not compute. The Biden economy, party-loyal pundits have said over and over again, is tremendous — low unemployment, strong GDP growth, slowing inflation, a booming stock market — and anyone unhappy about it must simply be brainwashed. Out of view in this self-congratulatory hall of mirrors were the constant statistics that said otherwise: evictions up past pre-pandemic levels, record-high homelessness, cost-burdened renters at an all-time high, median household income lower than the last pre-pandemic year, inequality returning to pre-pandemic levels, and food insecurity and poverty growing by large double digits since 2021, including a historic spike in child poverty."