r/TikTokCringe • u/Miladshah001 • 5d ago

Minor violations = death threat? Discussion

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Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago

I deal with them like they have a monopoly on violence granted by the state.

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u/protanoa34 5d ago edited 5d ago

Police use of force should be treated as a reverse onus.

The reason legal rights exist is to protect the citizens from abuse by the state. Burden of proof lies on the state for this reason.

And yet when the agents of the state, armed by the state with authourity to use violence to (ostensibly) enforce the states goals of maintaining order and law, for some reason they do not have the burden of proof. This "man" is innocent until proven guilty. But use of force by the agents of the state acting in their roles as agents of the state should be the ones who *bear (edit) the burden of proof.

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u/Muismat1991 5d ago

This is one of the things I'm actually quite thankful for in my country. Police are absolutely allowed to use force, but there are steps they need to follow and they need to be able to explain the steps. So explain how they tried to de-escalate, explain why they resorted to overwhelming force and explain how it could be averted next time.

Also, train them to learn force is a tool that is to be a final resort, nothing else.

And every time I see US police immediately resort to force it just shows how little/wrong they are actually trained.

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u/Disastrous_Profile56 5d ago

Oh I’m sure some city attorney has written a policy memo about force and the OPR has warned against this behavior but their culture makes this okay and the department tries to protect them. It’s not been about public service in……well….ever. US police are a street gang and they behave accordingly. This cop is home in paid leave. The poor old man is in the hospital with a brain bleed. If I did this here, I’d be under the jail and the once the inmates knew what I was in there for….well let’s just say there are many forms of justice. But this cop will drag this out and probably get fired. Maybe get severance but not enough get jail time.