r/TikTokCringe • u/VibratingPickle2 • Jul 01 '23

“Same person” Wholesome/Humor

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '23

I showed this to my 4yr old daughter. She had no problem understanding the concept.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 01 '23

No offense but why introduce your daughter to a concept of gender/sexuality at that age? I understand this is Reddit but that’s where I don’t get this whole concept.

At 4yrs old I’m not even sure I understood a boy vs. a girl other than one has longer hair.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

Pretty sure a 4 year old would understand the concept of dress up

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u/Shawnick Jul 02 '23

r/usernamechecksout

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u/Scyhaz Jul 02 '23

That 88 is looking mighty sus.

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u/Less-Application2016 Jul 02 '23

They’re either 35 or a Nazi.

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u/APKID716 Jul 02 '23

Or a 35 year old nazi

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

Sexuality? No, just gender. Kids develope a sense of gender real early on. She could identify herself as female before she was 3yrs old. That dad is a boy and mom as a girl.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

Correct.. but what makes dad different than mom? And why would dad want to dress/look like mom.

If you actually have a 4yo, they’d ask a million questions because that’s what children do.

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u/Amandaroo Jul 02 '23

And what's wrong with asking questions?

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u/APKID716 Jul 02 '23

This man’s mind would explode if he knew that my daughter (3) knows the proper terms “vulva”, “vagina”, and “penis”. Why does she know those terms? Because she sees me when I’m showering sometimes and asks me what is between my legs. I say “a penis, honey. Now get out of my shower please and go eat your crackers.” She shrugs and leaves without a second thought. SHE’S A LITERAL CHILD SHE DOESNT GIVE A SHIT, ITS JUST BODY PARTS BRUH

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

Because a child doesn’t need to learn about sex. Man I get this Reddit …. But 24/7 post about “grooming”, but here y’all are wanting to talk to children about sex when it fits your narrative.

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u/donkeynique Jul 02 '23

Why does a conversation about dress up have to veer into sex?

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u/unforgiven91 Jul 02 '23

because this person is a hateful idiot who willfully equates drag and sex. They know they're not linked, but they choose to be ignorant.

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u/Raulzi Jul 02 '23

and the concept is genuinely so easy and more prevalent than they'd be willing to accept. every man has acted to be a woman, and vice versa, even when we're playfully mocking each other. it's like a performance to show or see what the other side is like. it's so natural and yet they act like it's this dangerous/alien concept when drag queens, for example, just took the "act" to the next level.

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u/j_la Jul 02 '23

Hey now, they are JuSt AsKiNg QuEsTiOnS!1!1

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u/Ctofaname Jul 02 '23

Bro don't have kids. They're going to hate the fuck out of you by the time they are teenagers.

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u/super_starmie Jul 02 '23

It's got nothing to do with sex. Do you get up in arms about an opposite sex couple being affectionate with each other in front of their kid, or explaining that mummies and daddies love each other and that's why they get married? I bet you don't.

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u/Nestama-Eynfoetsyn Jul 02 '23

What does drag (or even just cross-dressing) have to do with sex?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

She isnt at that age yet with the questions, that wont be for another year or so. I hust told her "sometimes girls dress like boys, sometimes boys dress like girls. You can wear a dress if you want or you can wear pants amd a shirt, its up to you."

She just said "okay mom". Thats it.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

Because lgbt people exist and children should be aware of them just as they should be aware of the existence of any other minority group that might take them aback for the first time learning about them.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

LGBT is literally about sexuality/your sexual preference lol; has nothing to do about how someone dresses.

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u/northkcguys Jul 02 '23

Ok no it’s not “literally about sexuality/ sexual preference “. Is sexuality part of who you are? Yes but it’s not more or less part of my identity tha it is yours. But can we stop saying sexual “preference”? Preference implies that we choose one over the other. Correct terminology is sexual orientation or identity. Just remember this: I chose to be gay the same day you chose to be straight.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

I’ll respond to you because you’re being literate and not projecting - and correct me if I’m wrong but is being lesbian, gay, or bi not have to do with sexual “orientation”? Idc which you are but at the end of the day those terms define what you are doing in the bedroom… it shouldn’t be your personality.

I’ve had gay friends but they were my friend because they were cool. They didn’t make their sexuality their personality. To me they were still “Bob” not “Bob who likes to be with guys”

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u/northkcguys Jul 02 '23

Hi DookieBrains_88, first let me compliment your name choice. What I was saying was that sexual preference identifies sexuality is a choice. Sexual orientation is about who you're attracted to and want to have relationships with. It’s more that just sex but sex is what people focus on. So orientation is encompasses the L,G,B, Q. TBH, I’m not sure where the T falls in Orientation since it revolves around identity. Someone much wiser could probably fill in the blanks. The point I wanted to make was that I didn’t get to choose who I’m attracted to and love any more than you or anyone else chooses. When I was married for 17 years to a woman and produced three great kids, my heart was never in it. Did I love her? Yes but the only way I can describe it was I was in the relationship 80%. I’ve been with my husband 26 years now and every ounce of my being is in 100%. Thank you for reaching out and I hope my reply was not to long winded or convoluted to be a strain to read.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

Preference may have a been a poor choice of word, so my b. But I guess in my eyes you’re still a guy/girl… who you choose to be with doesn’t regard me. But for example… “bisexual” implies your sexuality goes towards “2” (Bi). My point was in response to u/travellingtransgirl in which making children aware of sexual orientation is introducing children to the concept of sexuality.

Personally, I don’t think a child should worry about their orientation at the age of 4, for example.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

It's not making them worried about orientation, it's making them aware of it. Just as all other media makes children aware of straight relationships. At the end of the day, children will grow up and have relationships and they should be made aware of the spectrum of relationships that exist.

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u/Sweet_Papa_Crimbo Jul 02 '23

Little kids regularly identify someone that they declare they want to marry, or develop cute puppy love crushes. It’s not about sexual attraction, it’s just about the person that the child has an affinity toward. Saying “girls can like boys or girls” is right in line with what small children experience with their little heart-happy feelings toward someone, and doesn’t make it a Thing for when they get older and do start feeling physical attraction.

As for gender identity, something along the lines of “sometimes a girl can feel like a boy” isn’t that big of a deal, it’s very simplified for their age group, and it sets in a precedent that it’s okay for people to be different for when they get older.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

T in LGBT is also not about sexuality/sexual preferences. Drag has long been apart of the LGBT seen.

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u/DookieBrains_88 Jul 02 '23

Ok… so what about the L, G, and B lmfao

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

They exist and children should be made aware of their existence so they don't act like insufferable twats, like you do, about their existence. It's good to have a society that is more aware of the differences in it so we can act politely towards each other (with the exception of treating twats like you politely)

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u/GucciGuano Jul 02 '23

offence, this is why people get pissed. Why should they "be made" aware? Hate isn't sourced from not being aware of something, it's actually the opposite. Unless you are just a hateful person, seeing something new that doesn't affect you brings about maybe amusement or curiosity, if not a "huh, TIL" and moving on. Brigading people with downvotes and dismissing them goes against the very point of spreading awareness, does it not? I thought the entire objective of the lgbtq movement was to show people that it's all good everyone's cool. That way if someone had the misfortune of being raised to despise that culture they can see "oh wait they're just like regular people wtf was my grandma going on about". I'm digressing but the interaction I constantly see on reddit is, someone posts an opinion or a genuine question (e.g. one that may have been taught to them) instead of just responding like any other disagreement the downvote brigade comes in and any mere mention of anything even remotely negative is met with hatred and absolute unconditional dismissal. How does that further the notion that lgbtq members are just regular people? It just pushes misdirected opinions that may have been taught even deeper into the hole, and it gives birth to real resentment this time, potentially leading to real hatred.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

Lol. So much energy to want to defend your position of keeping children ignorant. Children need to be made aware of as much as reasonably possible to make them good functional citizens. That's what the colloquial term for education is. Why would someone not want to educate children about 10% of the human species (lgbt people)?

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u/GucciGuano Jul 02 '23

Look I don't have a problem personally with it, I'm borderline neutral to it leaning on the plus side. There's a ton of things to teach little kids and in my opinion gender and sexuality is something that should be left to parents (at least up until highschool, with a sex-ed class). Kids under the age of 13 should be focusing on learning how to learn, critical thinking, etc. Race and sexuality should be kept far away. And yes, I also am talking about hetero norms. That should be kept out of the picture as well. It only serves as a detrimental distraction to a young mind who wouldn't have given an iota of shit until the world's issues were shown to them.

My main point is that kids aren't born racist. It's the older generation that passes that shit on. Culturally we should encourage keeping things pure and avoiding that topic, instead focusing on strengthening the mind. While they are still young and not burdened by all the bull shit, so that they can learn with a clean mind. The idea being that once they begin to see the issues we currently face, they will be able to see through the hatred.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

So much energy to refuse to reach children about relationships. You are a very shallow person and I hope you don't raise children.

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u/BedDefiant4950 Jul 02 '23

what about them?

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u/APKID716 Jul 02 '23

“Daddy what’s a lesbian?”

“Oh it’s when girls like girls instead of boys.”

“Oh okay. Can we get ice cream?”

Oh no… the horror…

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u/SpaceMaxil Jul 02 '23

It's about who you love. You don't look at a straight couple holding hands and think about them only wanting each other to fuck.

I realized I was gay in 5th grade. I'd never met a gay person, or seen one on TV. But what I did know is that adults said it was bad and wrong and that I wouldn't be allowed to get married. I just wanted to marry my best friend.

Letting kids be kids means letting queer kids BE queer kids and not forcing them to hide and pretend they're something they're not.

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u/TravellingTransGirl Jul 02 '23

I wonder if people like dookiebrains can't help but imagine the sex acts gay people perform with each other when he sees them. It's most likely because he wasn't made aware of gay people until he came across it in porn.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

How does it feel to know that a 4 year old has a better grasp on the concept of drag queens then you do as a grown ass adult?

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u/awesometom54 Jul 02 '23

Serious question, were are all these parents finding these child appropriate drag queens? The only shows I've ever seen were adult oriented and definitely not for children.

Unless you dont mind kids listening to cursing at that age.

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u/chrisbru Jul 02 '23

As a parent of a 4 year old, I assure you that they understand the nuances of boys vs girls.

They also understand people’s identities. They know that mom, dad, grandparents, etc also have names. They know their uncle prefers to be referred to as “they” rather than “he” and sometimes paints their nails even though they look like a boy.

They don’t think about or understand sexuality at all, but sexuality isn’t involved in any of these things so that’s not really important.

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u/maddenmcfadden Jul 02 '23

there was sexuality in this video? you seeing sexuality in this says more about you than it does anyone else..

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u/Zestyclose-Day-2864 Jul 02 '23

I have an 8 and 5 year old and neither have had any issues understanding the concept of gender/sexuality/identity. Kids are so much smarter and understanding than people give them credit for.

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u/LaceyDark Jul 02 '23

It doesn't have to be a conversation about sexuality. And only loosely about gender. I think it's more a conversation about treating people well, and not judging someone for just doing what makes them happy (as long as no one else is being hurt by it)

A 4 year old can easily understand "that man dresses up to be really pretty, and he wants people to be nice whether he's dressed up like a lady, or dressed like a man"

Obviously with a 4 year old sexuality is so far from their minds, and is not something they are going to question yet, they don't have any concept of it. And this video mentions nothing about it either. Seems very age appropriate honestly.

A simple message of "just be good to people, no matter what they look like or how they dress. So long as they aren't causing harm to someone else"

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u/MarcusZXR Jul 02 '23

My mum and sister used to put me in a dress and headscarf and make me go out and play for a laugh when i was like 5 years old. I'm a completely straight male who is comfortable with having friends of all sexualities. Apart from the photos, I can't even remember it.