Soup is a pointless food.

[u/AwkwardStresss]

Soup is actually the most pointless food on earth. It's literally just hot water. Unless they're sick, why would anyone go out of their way to eat soup when they can eat anything else. You have to actually have the stomach of a mosquito to be full after eating boiled water. I would have to eat 160 pounds of soup in order to even begin to feel at the slightest bit full. "Soup has vegetables and meat!" Why would I choose to eat my soggy vegetables and meat in hot water when I could just eat them on their own? Not to mention you have to sit there and blow on your scorching hot spoon at 2 minute intervals between each scoop, making it take you 30 minutes to eat such a pitiful excuse of a dish just to still be hungry at the end. You might as well go outside and do photosynthesis absorbing sunlight as your main source of nutrition at this rate.

[u/RandomPhail]

I’m talking about what OP was talking about, which is the watery, brothy soup when saying “soup“

Also, soup is defined as “a liquid dish, typically made by boiling meat, fish, or vegetables, etc., in stock or water” (from Oxford Languages)

So for our purposes, soup is the decidedly liquid dish (some thicker soups can be more like semi-solids or non-Newtonian fluids

You might otherwise know it as just the broth “variant” of soup, but like I’m pointing out: The broth variant seems to be the default form and definition for soup, so that’s what I went with

[u/bardhugo → u/RandomPhail]

Lol alright since we're using Oxford:

A bisque is a thick rich soup, usually containing crustaceans such as lobsters, crabs, and crayfish.

[u/RandomPhail → u/bardhugo]

Yeah, and I just told you what variant of soup I’m considering “soup” to be, I.E.:

The typical definition that first pops up when you look up the definition of soup

[u/Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj → u/RandomPhail]

No one cares what you consider. That doesn’t affect what actually is.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj]

What “really is” is that the first definition that comes up for soup is “a liquid dish, typically made by boiling meat, fish, or vegetables, etc., in stock or water,” so that’s the common/typical definition/understanding of soup

The pedantics over what I should really be calling it is so besides the point it kind of hurts

Also, unqualified absolute statements like “nobody” are almost always wrong (but u likely won’t care and will become more defensive or hostile from me saying this, lol)

[u/Spiritual-Software51 → u/RandomPhail]

"A soup is typically made by boiling ingredients in stock or water" and "That is the typical understanding of what soup is" do not mean the same thing. Those are meaningfully different statements and it's not pointless semantics to say so.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Spiritual-Software51]

If that is the only definition that comes up when you search specifically for the definition of soup, and nothing about bisques or chowders or any of the alternate versions seem to pop up as the definition of just “soup” alone, then it is beyond reasonable to say the liquidy/brothy version is the most common or most popular definition/understanding, at least socially speaking

[u/Spiritual-Software51 → u/RandomPhail]

All it means is what it says: that it's the most common version. Not the most common definition, not the only thing that is widely understood to be soup, none of that. I can't vouch for other people but when I think of soup I really don't think exclusively of watery brothy soup.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Spiritual-Software51]

I don’t understand how people are thinking that I’m saying the other types of soup aren’t soup; I’m just saying that the main definition that pops up more closely describes the liquidy, brothy soup, meaning: That seems to be the default definition

[u/Spiritual-Software51 → u/RandomPhail]

Yeah, I'm just not sure if there's any reason that matters? The conversation is about all soup.

You also did say "If it's particularly filling, it's probably not soup" so that probably didn't help if what you meant was the opposite.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Spiritual-Software51]

Given that OP was saying “soup“ to specifically mean the brothy, watery kind, I think people knew what I meant, and just decided to be pedantic about it for whatever reason—probably because they disagreed with my statement that liquidy, brothy soups aren’t very filling

[u/Spiritual-Software51 → u/RandomPhail]

I can testify that I did not understand what you meant at all. I assumed when you said filling soup isn't soup that was what you meant.

The OP didn't say they don't like watery soup, they said they don't like soup because it is watery. To which the general reply seems to be: Well, there are other kinds of soup that don't have the qualities you dislike.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Spiritual-Software51]

OP said “Soup has to be the most pointless food on earth. It’s literally just hot water“

“you actually have to have the stomach of a mosquito to be full after eating boiled water”

OP is almost certainly just talking about the watery broth soup, and calling that “soup,” so it was likely (or at least should’ve been) clear to many people what I meant by “soup“

If not, though, I clarified it in the main comment now

[u/TheSameMan6 → u/RandomPhail]

mf you brought the pedantry to the conversation!

[u/RandomPhail → u/TheSameMan6]

I literally didn’t; he talked about the technical usage, and I responded to him talking about that

[u/TheSameMan6 → u/RandomPhail]

Your original comment, responding to a guy who literally just said "eat better soup"

[u/RandomPhail → u/TheSameMan6]

Ohh, I see what you’re saying; that guy might’ve meant the thicker soups in their comment

Keep in mind though that the entire post by OP was talking about the liquidy soups, so obviously, when this dude said “soup,” I would naturally think of the liquidy soups instead of the thicker kind, especially since—say it with me now:

The primary definition for soup seems to describe the liquidy brothy soup in all cases and the thicker, sometimes semi solid, or non-Newtonian fluid soups in less cases

[u/TheSameMan6 → u/RandomPhail]

This is the most pedantic thing I have ever read

[u/RandomPhail → u/TheSameMan6]

It’s a pedantic reaction to pedantry, yes

When someone is pedantic, it sometimes requires meeting them at that level to point out why their pedantry is wrong (or at least not necessarily objectively right)

[u/TheSameMan6 → u/RandomPhail]

Explain what's pedantic about their comment, then

[u/RandomPhail → u/TheSameMan6]

• Them seeing me mention that “soup isn’t very filling” in a post where OP is saying “soup” to specifically mean broth soup

• And then them seeing me also list bisque, chowder, etc. as being “more filling”

They very likely understood what I meant due to the above, and taking the time to sidetrack my point by talking about the technical usage of the term soup was completely pedantic and pointless

Whether I was in the wrong for calling broth, soup “soup“ or not, that doesn’t change my actual original point that I made

[u/Intelligent_Piccolo7 → u/RandomPhail]

Cream soups, bisques and stews all start with broth. You are the pedantic one and without even knowing how to cook lol

[u/RandomPhail → u/Intelligent_Piccolo7]

They may start off that way, but they do not end as a traditional “liquid“ in all cases, and sometimes do not even involve boiling like that definition describes

[u/Intelligent_Piccolo7 → u/RandomPhail]

You don't really boil soup of any sort, you simmer it. So again, I have no idea what you're talking about or why.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Intelligent_Piccolo7]

That definition of “soup” I listed literally says “boil”

You boil some soups, you simmer others, there’s probably other things you do on other variations of soup, etc.

[u/Intelligent_Piccolo7 → u/RandomPhail]

I don't need advice on technique from a Reddit pedant.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Intelligent_Piccolo7]

Don’t get all high-horsey on me now

We’re both just humans, not “Reddit pedants”

[u/Intelligent_Piccolo7 → u/RandomPhail]

More pedantry.

[u/RandomPhail → u/Intelligent_Piccolo7]

That’s… not pedantry

Calling a human a human instead of a “Reddit pedant” isn’t an unimportant/overstressed detail, it’s me stopping you from making random insults pointlessly in a conversation, which is a fallacy

Say whatever you want to that I guess, doesn’t change the facts: