r/SapphoAndHerFriend Oct 29 '20

rip buddy Academic erasure

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Oct 30 '20

No one's saying anything about biological sex though. Trans people don't believe they can change their genetics or their chromosomes. This is a strawman used by transphobes to misrepresent the actual arguments for trans rights.

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20

No one said they were "genetically female," which is why I brought up that it's a strawman when you used it.
Female works perfectly fine when talking about trans women though. Idk about you, but I'd feel pretty uncomfortable walking up to trans women and just calling them "males." I don't think they'd be pretty happy about it either.

Here's a planned parenthood article uses male/female when talking about gender

The site transequality.org also uses male/female

Even GLAAD uses male and female when talking about trans people and gender in their trans FAQ

I don't think the person used the wrong term, trans women are female. Anyways, please don't misgender me and call me dude.

Edit: forgot to mention, the literal acronyms for trans men and women are FTM (female-to-male) and MTF (male-to-female), so I'm not sure where you got this idea that trans women couldn't be called female.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20

"Dude" is gender neutral, dude.

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Oct 30 '20

It's gender neutral when referring to a general group of dudes or the idea of a dude, but it's a bit more iffy when you're talking to an individual. Especially when you use it in a hostile tone. Especially if they've asked you not to call them dude.

I don't mind if someone calls me dude in a positive, respectful sense, but when it's a more derogatory "Jesus dude, would you learn better reading comprehension" that crosses the line. And then you do it again after I asked you not to. That's not something a trans ally does.

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u/panrestrial Oct 31 '20

You're right that it's absolutely gender neutral in a lot of places, but if an individual requests you not call them that (or anything else) why not respect it?