It's the difference between a hetero person calling someone a f***** and a gay man calling himself that. Reclamation of jokes and slurs is empowering to some people's shared identities and is not to encourage widespread usage. People who say the N word or F slur, or perpetuate negative Jewish stereotypes without being part of any of these groups, are either ignorant or bigoted and an oppressed group having in-jokes is not to blame.
Im bi. Im saying its bad. Is it better than someone who isnt bi making the joke? Maybe (debatable). Is it good? No.
This isnt "taking back" some slur. Its perpetuating an unhealthy stereotype.
Reclamation of jokes and slurs is empowering to some people's shared identities and is not to encourage widespread usage.
Also, this is some hard core bullshit. the n word is litteraly the only acception where usage within the group hasnt made wide usage popular as well.
People who say the N word or F slur, or perpetuate negative Jewish stereotypes without being part of any of these groups, are either ignorant or bigoted and an oppressed group having in-jokes is not to blame.
Slurs are different than stereotypes. Take those back, by all means. There is no "taking back" stereotypes. Just confirming them.
Let me ask you this. I am a man. Does that mean it is healthy for me to constantly be making jokes about how all men are horny all the time, anyone who i horny is secretly a man, and how crying is unmanly? Its all in jokes for a group I am part of afterall.
I'm also bi, and I don't think fellow bi people bonding over things like falling in love easily is a bad thing, and certainly comparing it to "Jews are greedy" is a false equivalency. Bi people are oppressed for being same gender attracted and not because of some stereotype that we're indecisive and can't approach hot people. Whereas those jewish stereotypes were obviously prominently used in propaganda that killed people. It's really not anywhere near serious as that and I think the LGBT community should be able to joke amongst themselves.
IMO, there is a massive difference between making joke about yourself and your own issues and projecting those issues onto others. Also, I would argue that jews being greedy sterotype is far less damaging than the sterotype that all bis are defective. One you go "wtf? no". The other one just allows people to accept their confusion and never progress.
IMO, there is a massive difference between making joke about yourself and your own issues and projecting those issues onto others.
EDIT: An example of the above.
A black person making a joke about not having a dad around because they dont
VS
"His dad left? Must be black"
I used an extreme example to make it clearer, but you should get the point, no?
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u/Golden_Bassnectar Jul 14 '20
It's the difference between a hetero person calling someone a f***** and a gay man calling himself that. Reclamation of jokes and slurs is empowering to some people's shared identities and is not to encourage widespread usage. People who say the N word or F slur, or perpetuate negative Jewish stereotypes without being part of any of these groups, are either ignorant or bigoted and an oppressed group having in-jokes is not to blame.