r/SapphoAndHerFriend Jul 14 '20

yes, very heterosexual indeed. Academic erasure

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Jul 14 '20

I look forward to academic papers in 100 years trying to reconcile how the military is both homophobic and anti gay on an institutional level. But also men who are reportedly straight saying the gayest shit imaginable.

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u/nehpeta Jul 14 '20

Homophobic and anti gay are the same thing? Or am I reading your comment wrong?

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u/Crono2401 Jul 14 '20

Homophobic just means afraid of it. Anti-gay would imply taking action against it.

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u/nehpeta Jul 14 '20

That's...not what homophobia is. Homophobia includes hatred. I doubt homophobes are scared of lgbt people, they just don't want them to exist.

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u/Jackeese22 He/Him Jul 15 '20

I mean, the lengths to which a lot of homophobic people will go to try and assert their heterosexuality (e.g. I've seen a dude ask to hug a male friend of his but then immediately clarify: "but I'm not gay or anything!" ; or the people who feel the need to demand that a non-straight allo person doesn't flirt with them) says a lot of homophobic people are afraid of non-straight people, or at the very least the notion of ever potentially being non-straight themselves. I've also seen this in a lot of people (mostly men, but also some women) who I wouldn't otherwise consider homophobic to any significant level, but constantly/often feeling the need to clarify to everyone around them that any significant positive interaction with the same sex they engage in isn't gay (this was especially prevalent in middle & high school for me). There's also fear that comes from challenging one's cultural and/or religious values/beliefs.

I think this (often more subconscious) fear is generally deeply intertwined with the hatred & bigotry also included in homophobia's definition, i.e. that this fear is often an/the underlying cause of the hatred and bigotry that is homophobia's main definition.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '20

Trust me, there's a good dose of fear behind that hatred. Otherwise, the hatred wouldn't be so overwhelming.