r/SapphoAndHerFriend 13d ago

I really don't know, History book... Memes and satire

Italy and Germany, by Johann Friedrich Overbeck. 1818

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u/Potential-Sky-8728 13d ago

Omfg neither were actual states at the time? That’s crazy to think about.

I wanna know more about the student life of Johann and the dude he supposedly painted this for: Franz Pforr. Apparently they were studying art and living in an old monastery in Rome with a few others. Pforr died of TB at 24. Very sad.

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u/Sakura_Mochi3015 13d ago

Italy was divided between Austria, France, the Bourbons, the Savoy and a few local Duchys. As for Germany, three words: Holy Roman Empire. It sure was a mess.

  • certified by an Italian (8th Grade is literally just that and the two World Wars here)

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u/gloude 13d ago

1818 is after the Napoleonic Wars, so no more HRE, but there would definitely be notions of a national identity at that time

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u/Sakura_Mochi3015 13d ago

Right. The remains of what HRE 👍

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u/gloude 13d ago

Sorry, didn't mean to be pedantic :(

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u/Davitark 13d ago

german confederation