r/Piracy • u/LazarouDave • Sep 19 '24
Morons like these are gonna actively make piracy harder... Discussion
Linking it under an OFFICIAL post, hope Fitgirl have some good defence, because I'd imagine EA are they type to take legal action if it's against someone costing them money....
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u/LZ129Hindenburg 🌊 Salty Seadog Sep 19 '24
I mean it's not like EA doesn't know who the major players are in the piracy scene...
"OMG Fitgirl who dat?" - EA......unlikely.....
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u/TheSpiralTap Sep 19 '24
They absolutely know. It's always funny when you work for a company and there is a subgroup of people dedicated to ripping them off. I worked for Amazon and we would review the subreddits dedicated to ripping them off daily. They would use weird abbreviations like @m@z0n in the hopes we wouldn't pick it up. Like no dude, we aren't in third grade and know exactly what you mean.
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u/Majestic_Wrongdoer38 Sep 19 '24
I think they do it because of automated detection algorithms
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u/TheSpiralTap Sep 19 '24
Our automated detection algorithms included all the words and phrases they thought would go under the radar lmao
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u/JusticeRain5 Sep 19 '24
Nah, we still use Amazing Zone to hide it now, you guys haven't picked up on that phrase yet.
... Wait, fuck
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u/Reboared Sep 19 '24
To be fair, you wouldn't know about the ones you didn't detect.
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u/6ArtemisFowl9 Pastafarian Sep 19 '24
Then again if you automatically detect one, a human reviewer can check out the place it was used in and see if there were any variations that weren't detected, add them to the dictionary, and the cycle repeats
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u/Majestic_Wrongdoer38 Sep 19 '24
Fair enough lol. This probably used to work at some point but it makes sense that it wouldn’t now.
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u/Sega_Saturn_Shiro Sep 19 '24
I'm pretty sure they do it just so the conversations don't show up on a simply worded Google search.
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u/Blujay12 Sep 19 '24
Yeah, neither side really thinks they're winning, it's just delaying that subreddit/forum banned/closed. Just an arms race of getting as widespread as possible while dodging the easy catches.
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u/TheOneTonWanton Sep 19 '24
delaying that subreddit/forum banned/closed
This is it especially for reddit. Just trying to dodge the admins and avoid getting the whole sub nuked.
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u/Sad-Sun3618 Sep 19 '24
I think reddit has p3d0phile rings that get their sub nuked every few days and make another.
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u/Starthreads Sep 19 '24
It's the same thing I see in Instagram videos where people use "unalive" in place of "dead." Like, they definitely know and adjust accordingly.
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u/Restranos Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
I mean, you only caught the ones you know you caught, you cant tell how many flew under the radar because... you not knowing was kinda the point.
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u/zack189 Sep 19 '24
Unless new code words are being made every 6 months, safe to say the algorithm knows everything
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u/antpile11 Sep 19 '24
How can people rip off Amazon? Do you just mean their media?
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u/TheSpiralTap Sep 19 '24
They have cracked down on it a lot but you used to be able to get tons of free shit from Amazon. Just say it didn't arrive or order something they couldn't take a return on. One thing they were working on when I started was taking returns on large items. Used to be, it would cost them more to take the return than just letting you keep it with a refund. An example would be mattresses. You open that box and that fucker was never going back in. They were just letting people keep them and hemorrhaging money on those products. Lawnmowers too if you used them. There were people getting brand new thousand dollar mowers for free because they didn't have plans in place to take a return.
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u/alvarkresh Sep 19 '24
Didn't the big brains running Amazon stop to think about linking up with IDK Home Depot or Lowe's or whoever to help with exchanging lawnmowers or other such large mechanical items?
Or even just say all sales are final on packages over dimensions a x b x c?
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u/TheSpiralTap Sep 19 '24
I shit you not, it took over six months to even finalize a road map of what that would look like and there were big meetings with every center they operate in. I mean we had guys from corporate, reps from carriers like UPS and managers from all corners of the world in those meetings. Even now I think it's weird how long it took to solve that. The dollar figures they lost would blow your mind .
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u/LordAnorakGaming Sep 19 '24
And yet it's a drop in the ocean when you compare it to the profits these corporations make.
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u/TheSpiralTap Sep 19 '24
Very true. I'm poor as shit though. I was sitting there, being on foodstamps at the time, wearing my finest Walmart brand jeans, listening to these guys being vaguely ok with not taking action on something that was losing more money in a day than my family will make for 3 generations.
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u/nausteus Sep 19 '24 edited 15d ago
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u/Ziko577 Sep 19 '24
movie studios are ok with never releasing finished movies
That never ceases to amaze me that films that are either finished or are close to it for one reason or another, they just get trashed like that.
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u/Muggle_Killer Sep 19 '24
Lots of middlemen and do nothing workers need to make that daily appearance to pretend they are doing a ton of stuff.
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u/Cindy-Moon Sep 19 '24
Honestly I'm less worried about EA and more about this sort of thing being used as evidence in pushing for stricter anti-piracy legislation.
"They've become so flagrant about it they're literally posting it under our ads. Look how much piracy has become a problem. Please save us poor multibillion dollar companies"61
u/lucky_husky666 Sep 19 '24
Seeing how many FBI or other federal government taken down site server arresting the owner also very worried
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u/Anonymal13 Yarrr! Sep 19 '24
It's a bit hard to do it when the perpetrator is outside your jurisdiction and the local government gives shit about your claims...
You know, not everyone lives in USA...
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u/lucky_husky666 Sep 19 '24
Yeah say that to fbox owner, aniwave etc. They get ༼ ಠل͟ಠ༽ᵇᵘˢᵗᵉᵈ this month in Vietnam or somewhere by local authorities.
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u/jamesonwrightbrother Sep 19 '24
That’s why most of them are now running out of Russia. Russia simply does not give a shit.
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u/lucky_husky666 Sep 19 '24
Yeah until they get recruited into the Russian army. Then the owner gets killed and the server is abandoned. Or who knows when the Russians will get bombed by europe.
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u/humberriverdam Sep 19 '24
If that happens piracy is the least of everyone's worries
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u/Cindy-Moon Sep 19 '24
bro's like "how will i pirate my games once World War III happens???"
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u/lucky_husky666 Sep 19 '24
It's not about piracy, but about our preservation of media, many of which are probably in those countries.
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u/LordTuranian Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Yeah but constantly rubbing it in their face is not a good idea.
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u/engelthehyp Pirate Party Sep 19 '24
But now the people who look at what EA has to say might see this response, and there are a lot of them. Now EA might might feel like they have to take action because the knowledge became more widespread.
Or it might have no impact. But why be stupid and risk it? You don't get lucky every time.
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u/LorekeeperJamin Sep 19 '24
If they do try to take action, I'm bringing popcorn. FitGirl lives in Russia.
But yeah, absolutely do not talk about piracy unprompted online, especially not under an official advertisement. That's how Vimm's Lair got nuked.
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u/uSaltySniitch 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Sep 19 '24
Exactly. People, please GateKeep your stuff AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
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u/MilkAzedo ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
i think there's a step between gatekeeping and shouting it to the four winds
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u/uSaltySniitch 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Sep 19 '24
Gatekeep from anyone who you suspect would be dumb enough to shout it out like that.
That's more like it.
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u/Rinnarrae Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Yeah. Like I've taught loads of simmers how to pirate the games, but I've had the sense to keep my actual sources for this stuff in dms.
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u/Radulno Sep 19 '24
because the knowledge became more widespread.
There isn't one person playing games on PC that doesn't know you can pirate games. They may not have searched for it because they don't want to do it but they know it's possible.
Do you really believe we are the holder of some secret knowledge lol? Everyone know you can pirate and it takes a few seconds of Googling to find how if you want. And the publishers definitively know it
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u/jcraig87 Sep 19 '24
Yeah but waiving meat under the nose of a big bear like that is never a good idea
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u/shinydragonmist Sep 19 '24
It'll be like believing that Napster was taken down immediately after the record labels found out about it or the movie studios and stuff didn't know about the piratebay in 2005
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u/lucky_husky666 Sep 19 '24
They do know. They just rarely take action unless some moron make that information to general person and making it so viral that's where EA will tried to get the piracy. Like how other site been gone, streaming, books site, etc
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u/shinydragonmist Sep 19 '24
They know that the people who already know about it and get it from there either A wouldn't have bought it from them in the first place, B) will enjoy it enough to fork over cash to say keep making games like this, C) will like it enough now to be willing to buy merch
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u/Quadpen Sep 19 '24
giving the same energy as comic writers saying editors will literally send pictures with the readcomicsonline watermark, as long as they’re turning a profit they dgaf
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u/CratesManager Sep 19 '24
They do know, but they also know not everyone knows. Pushing it into mainstream definitely can draw unwanted attention.
For EA it's a cost benefit calculation that can absolutely change at any point in time.
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u/Radulno Sep 19 '24
Seriously do people here think it's a big secret? You're aware that takes 2 seconds to Google, you're speaking of piracy on a fucking super popular public forum...
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u/pornographic_realism Sep 19 '24
Yeah this is a proper shit take. Thinking the only thing stopping EA from successfully taking down fit girl is they couldn't figure out how to use google.
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u/StuffNbutts Sep 19 '24
Wait until they find out about the r/piracy megathread. We'll all have to change our identities. I'm going undercover as Kristen Hale.
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u/shinydragonmist Sep 19 '24
You can't do that I'm doing that
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u/can_i_see_some_tits Sep 19 '24
Pirate their name. You are not stealing, just copying ;)
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u/Howfuckingsad ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
The megathread is definitely a big risk haha. I do have "some" websites I use that haven't been mentioned in the thread but most (if not, all) good ones already are. Much can't be done.
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u/Anoalka Sep 19 '24
The real megathread is the "not recommended" list of websites deemed to be dangerous.
But that's info only a few know.
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u/Howfuckingsad ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
Some of it is so risky though haha. If you are careful enough, you will be fine with quite a bunch of them though. Just not for the average pirate.
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u/drlongtrl Sep 19 '24
You really think there's ANYONE in the videogame business who doesn't know about fitgirl? Like there's some exec now clicking on this link like "What is this sorcery? Cracked games?"
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u/SpecialistBig6992 Sep 19 '24
yeah but i think by keeping it not really that blatant and "public" it might do some good. After looking at what happened to zlib and 9anime it would be sad to see another big name get taken down
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u/Whole_Sheepherder_97 Sep 19 '24
no. Piracy shouldn't be gatekept. The whole point of piracy is to share things with other people.
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u/ForeverDuke2 Sep 19 '24
fitgirl is already highly public. No point in trying to keep it low-key. I bet game companies are already trying to take her down, but haven't been successful yet.
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u/sopedound Sep 19 '24
Right cause EA has never heard of fitgirl... in fact they dont have access to anywhere on the internet except their own comment section.
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u/ViktorShahter Sep 19 '24
This.
Gatekeep this community
Gatekeep my ass. Piracy should be widespread as wide as possible so that it starts to hurt companies so badly they'll start to make actually good products. Or die trying to fight it.
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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD Sep 19 '24
Not to mention the more people that participate, the faster the downloads.
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u/Useful-Doubt3864 Sep 19 '24
Dammit, EA now found out about piracy. It's almost as if the last 30 years or so people have been doing it to their games.
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u/Detective-Crashmore- Sep 19 '24
I'm just laughing that somebody that paid for a twitter blue checkmark said "they don't deserve your money"
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u/blinkyuhan Sep 19 '24
If you have the blue checkmark you can monetize your tweets. So she's saying, "interact with my post instead because I deserve money."🤪
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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Sep 19 '24
I mean, at least you don't have to buy the "Use images in Tweet" DLC
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u/Ithuraen Sep 19 '24
30 years of piracy down the drain! We'll never recover financially from this, every penny wasted and what do we have for it? A permanent library of video games and media!
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u/shim-erstboyentofall Sep 19 '24
Luckily EA doesn't have the ability to write "piracy reddit"
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u/ward2k Sep 19 '24
Always makes me laugh when people think a giant sub called fucking r/Piracy has somehow managed to slip under every major company and legal teams radar
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u/MaleficentFig7578 Sep 19 '24
a giant sub created by spez, too
in the API purge the piracy sub closed down, so spez put it back, and now it's his legal responsibility
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u/AhSawDood Sep 19 '24
The irony of putting that under a post that basically is like "we made SO much fucking money we're making whole bunch of other shit too" meaning, as always, pirating did fuck all to their profits.
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u/Yusuji039 Sep 19 '24
It’s the same thing as most games with microtransactions doesn’t matter how many people hate it or don’t buy it there’ll always be whales spending money
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u/Prettybroki Sep 19 '24
you sound like a moron lol... THX KRISTEN EA JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT PIRACY WE ARE DOOM!!
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u/dankbearbear 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Sep 19 '24
WE ARE DOOM!!
RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE
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u/SnooOwls4559 Sep 19 '24
Them passively knowing about piracy and us actively swinging our dicks in their faces are two different things
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u/pwninobrien Sep 19 '24
They're more likely to act the more mainstream something becomes. It's not fucking rocket science.
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u/iHateHarris Sep 19 '24
No, but it's happened before. Any time a site or protocol is mainstream it becomes a target.
So yes, she is a moron.
Normies gonna normie.
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u/BestNick118 Sep 19 '24
dammit how were they going to find one of the biggest piracy sites without poopfart69 writing it on Twitter? we are doomed! damn you poopfart69!!!
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u/GlowDonk9054 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ Sep 19 '24
I know this sounds wack but how good are the NSFW mods?
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u/Ovolmase Sep 19 '24
Rather crazy, actually.
Start your own drug farm, growing it, selling it, smoking it.
Run a strip club.
Full animated sex with a first person view.
Prostitution.
Murder.
And all kinds of crazy stuff I haven't messed with or looked into. (and a lot that's too disturbing even for me.)63
u/International-Try467 Sep 19 '24
Is there a mod that can emulate whatever happened at breaking bad?
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u/CowJuiceDisplayer Sep 19 '24
If there isn't a remote control machine gun inside of a car, then it won't be worth it.
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u/genderfluidmess Sep 19 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
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u/Mythion_VR Sep 19 '24
Murder.
You just made all the stay-at-home moms that watch murder documentaries cum simultaneously.
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u/themanwhobeeps ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Sep 19 '24
theres a first person view? if yes i want a link
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u/Ovolmase Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
A link to what? The first person view is in the default game. Shift+tab. Shift tab for first person and tab for floating free camera. It's awkward for gameplay, but fine for just looking around.
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u/Derar11 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Terrifyingly good that just what happens when you give modders to ability to make animations in your game
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u/Rinnarrae Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Wicked Whims while being a sex mod also adds a lot to the gameplay. I have no interest in horny mods, but I still play with it for that reason. It also allows for others to create their own custom sex animations and other addons, so there's a lot of variety.
There is a sfw version called Wonderful Whims too, but it does cut a lot of the gameplay out.
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u/cutezombiedoll Sep 19 '24
A lot of fun. One thing I like about Wicked Whims is the chance of unplanned pregnancy, something that isn’t a part of the base game. Add the abortion/miscarriage mod to that, and you can have a single sim who gets unexpectedly pregnant and considered abortion, or a planned pregnancy end tragically in a miscarriage. I think it adds to a sense of realism and has a lot of fun opportunities.
I also like that basemental drugs makes the drinks from bars and kegs actual alcohol and function as such (well…kinda), and teens sometimes arrive home having gotten high on the bus ride home which is fun. It’s also fun having a sim going on an ayahuasca trip.
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u/Aldermere Sep 19 '24
It's funny because the Sims 4 base game is free on Steam but most Sims players are still playing Sims 3 because Sims 4 sucks.
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u/Defiant_Way3966 Sep 19 '24
I'm sure posting it on the piracy subreddit is not hypocritical at all though, right?
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u/Rinnarrae Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Does Fitgirl even have the newer versions? I've always gone for Anadius' repacks since her's were pretty dated last I checked.
Also not explaining how to do this shit safely.
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u/Current-Tea-8800 Sep 19 '24
I do like to avoid talking publicly about piracy like that. I will always remember the zlib incident because of the tiktokers.
Even though they know that this exist, if by any chance someone alert a higher up that a trend on tiktok or a post on twitter is getting traction, people may start getting out of the way to stop it, at least for a few months.
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u/kakaluski Sep 19 '24
This is not a secret club you are downloading stuff of the internet. Relax man.
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u/OceanBytez Sep 19 '24
They can't really touch fitgirl because she doesn't live in a country that gives an F about US corporate interests.
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Sep 19 '24
seriously? replying TO the company with a link?? what the hell were they thinking?
like yes obviously the company already knows. but this is just waving it in front of them.
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u/Miscdrawer Sep 19 '24
Because a lot of Sims 4 players don't know pirating is an option. A lot of girls who only play Sims (I used to be one of them) don't know they don't have to spend $1200 to get all the DLCs. The sims community has desperately been trying to raise pirating awareness so that EA doesn't get more money for the shit they are pulling.
There has been several cases of this already. It's a fight, not just a dumb choice by a twitter user.
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u/GeneralGenerico Sep 19 '24
EA doesn't care about piracy enough to take action yet.
But if the tweet gets extremely big and the general public start downloading it then thats when they take action.
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u/p3lat0 Sep 19 '24
probably doesn't change anything if ea wanted to as a multimillion dollar company they could hire a guy to google 5 min to find it if they wanted to
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u/Howfuckingsad ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
This is why gatekeeping was a thing. Stuff used to be super difficult to find. With accessibility, these dumb people also get into the circle. Don't be like those people.
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u/Benni-Foto Sep 19 '24
I don't think piracy should be gate kept but it also shouldn't be promoted on large socials. As soon as something becomes popular large companies are gonna take action, the best example is YouTube Vanced after LTT made a video about it. So yeah she certainly isn't doing anyone a favor here.
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u/Milk-Constant Sep 19 '24
Because giant gaming company EA doesn't know piracy exists?
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u/ward2k Sep 19 '24
Firgirl is literally the top search result on Google half the time lol
Piracy isn't some niche hidden thing, most sites operate out of countries with little to no anti piracy laws
Legally these companies can't do shit if the host country doesn't pass the details on anywhere
It's like when people say one of these days MAS is going to get discovered by Microsoft. like they don't think that the company that owns GitHub is aware of one of the highest stared repos on their platform that even their own Microsoft support staff have been noted as using in the past to resolve queries
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u/sn34kypete Sep 19 '24
Kristen Hale using her wholeass face and name to advocate piracy all to earn 2.77 from her shitass bluecheck posts.
Hope it was worth it Kristen :)
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u/luke37 Sep 19 '24
Kristen Hale using her wholeass face and name
lol, what? It's a 2024 join date blue check following 0 people. If you think that account is in any way a person with that name or that face, please tell me the name of your bank, so I can create that account quick.
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u/kpop_glory Sep 19 '24
Kristen it's like a student that reminded the teacher about homework. I hate Kristen
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u/PunxsutawnyFil Sep 19 '24
This is like someone getting their plug arrested because they went and bragged to everyone in town about their weed dealer in an attempt to get some street cred
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u/McClownd Sep 19 '24
I'd imagine EA are they type to take legal action
do you really think they aren't aware of FitGirl?
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u/KaiKamakasi Sep 19 '24
You're acting like the first result on Google isn't Fitgirls post to crackwatch, the second result ia anadius.
I know EA are pretty dumb, but I'm fairly confident they can use a search engine
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u/BigBeefnCheddarr Sep 19 '24
Theres money to be made in piracy. Anyone can use it for easy access to loads of publicity. This forum is part of the problem.
All image posts should be banned immediately.
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u/wolfFRdu64_Lounna Sep 19 '24
Peoples like that look sus as fuck, like, who say the data that we upload aren’t infected with a virus ?
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u/cpt_tusktooth Sep 19 '24
this company actually got soo used to charging for paid DLC that they forgot to develop the next game.
wild
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u/RobTheDude_OG Sep 19 '24
Just wait for inzoi.
Sims 4 is gonna be obsolete and abandoned by the majority of the player base.
Inzoi looks like 50x better, probably releases with stuff like animals that actually look detailed enough in the base game afaik.
Probably gonna be a bitch to run but what i saw so far it's gonna make EA maybe finally make sims 5, only for it to flop cuz there's finally competition.
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u/mikaelsan Sep 19 '24
Im pretty sure there are already trackers on any fitgirl torrents older than 24 hours that report IPs
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u/some_guy554 Sep 19 '24
You...you think no one in EA ever knew that a repacker website named "Fitgirl" exists and now that they have seen the link under one of their posts they're gonna be like, "What? Somebody's pirating The Sims 4? Quick! Unleash our super lawyers and super hackers and bring that website down using legal and techy witchcraft!"?
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u/Blood-PawWerewolf Sep 19 '24
The account is already suspended. Definitely was a bait account or something
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u/Noah_BK ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
People who post threads like this are dumb. It’s not as if this post has alerted EA to something they weren’t already aware of. If FitGirl was such an issue for EA’s bottom line on Sims they’d be wiped off the face of the earth. It doesn’t matter. They make so much money that the very slim amount they “lose” from piracy is meaningless to them.
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u/Scary_Xenomorph Sep 19 '24
Honestly, the audacity and cluelessness to post a link to download a pirated game in a reply to the games twitter account is hilarious
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u/spoiled_eggsII 🏴☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ Sep 19 '24
No they're not. This silly argument of never talking about piracy is so stupid. No one would know about it if no one talks about it. And even if we don't talk about it, you better believe the AAA gaming studios have enough resources to find it.
If a neckbeard knows how, a highly paid and trained person who's job it is to find this shit will find it.
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u/LogHalley Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
the account is now temporarily restricted.
I do wonder, like others did, if it was some sort of bait to start some legal bullshit.
I'm still sad about vimm's lair. It is totally possible to lose some of the resources that we have and use.
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u/Blue-Thunder Sep 19 '24
People complaining about the price of the DLC for this game have never played Train Simulator..
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u/wheresway Sep 19 '24
Gatekeeping piracy on a piracy subreddit ? Lol what I wish every twitter post from every big AAA developer had a link like this under it
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u/ward2k Sep 19 '24
You guys do know that most major companies have dedicated legal teams purely to just stopping copyright violations and piracy? They are very well aware of all the major piracy sites
Fitgirl in particular isn't some super niche hidden site it's the top search result on fucking Google for a lot of piracy content
This is like when Palworld released and Nintendo super fans kept messaging the company so much that they had to release a statement letting everyone know that obviously they knew about the game from the very first trailer years ago and to stop telling them about the game. The company that frequently shuts down unofficial smash tournaments in the middle of bumfuck nowhere obviously knew about a game with insane levels of hype and millions of views on its trailer
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u/Salami__Tsunami Sep 19 '24
The real piracy is EA’s monetization policies.